Irony

How the heck did no one die? Did the Mafia not pick someone to kill or something? Ryker's death changes some things? I'm thinking Yedi is Mafia, as he possibly lied about Ryker's alligence. Yes, there is the possibility that Yedi is town and was told the incorrect answer (one of the mechanics is that information given to investigative roles may not be accurate or something). Apart from that..... I still think Yolo and Emelina are Mafia. But I am not 100% sure about either of these slots (I'd say maybe 50%-ish?) I want to wait and see how this so called Gorf acts/reacts in this game before making any decisions. After all MYLO is in place, and I certainly don't want to mislynch anyone again. And I agree with you- Mass claim today. I've already claimed, so I don't need to claim today.

As someone who doesn't really have a nostalgic attachment to the Golden Sun series (with the exception of Dark Dawn, and even then Dark Dawn has flaws) I'm going to try and explain why I think they are good games: 1) I LOVE THE WORLD BUILDING- seriously, every single town feel so unique and fresh and it also feels that even the NPCs have a personality. One of the things that I appreciate is that the ovens/cookers have little descriptors describing what they are cooking. 2) The grey/grey morality conflict is really well done. You spend the first game thinking that stopping the lighthouses being lit was the right thing to do, but then you learn that to save the world you have to light the lighthouse. The reunion scene in Cognito perfectly reflects that. 3) The music- the music is really, really good in my opinion. Enough said. 4) The Dungeons and the Battle system are really fun- yes, the games are easy (and maybe making them more difficult would be fun) but they are fun anyways. There are so many different options on how to battle, and it's surprising complex. There are more, but I don't want to ramble on too much....

##Vote:Ryker I didn't know if I did it right last time, so wanted to make so.

I like Rainbow's reasoning. I'm sorry, Ryker. Please forgive me. You're cool, but I think you are working with the Mafia. Vote:Ryker

I don't know if I'll be able to lynch all of those people of my own, but if you do flip Ensemble I will try (and I say that, as I think you are in the Mafia, but I digress). Though my priority will be YOLOSWAG, as that is the only person whom we both read as being Mafia. My other pick is Emelina.

I did, yes. Fair point. Apologies for my mistake.

And yes, I did remember correctly- Ryker was one of the seven who lynched Green Poet on Day 1, Despite the fact that she made a Role claim.

I'm more drawn towards Ryker as Mafia rather than Yedi. I think they're both suspicious, but I suspected Ryker since day 1 for several reasons which I know are somewhere in the thread. Why do you think I tried to Role block him on Night 2? I thought that his arguments were not consistent, that he didn't back up his points. I'll need to double check something else, but for now I think Ryker is Mafia.

Well, I can certainly do that Emelina: 1) My character is called Ryuji 2) A normal guy who hates sitting on the sidelines (ironically (heh) I'm the total opposite.) 3) I can't fight baddies, but I make a pretty sweet distraction. 4) During the night phase, I can say like "Look over here dude!" 5) Dude will then be busy and cannot perform their night actions. 6) I cannot do anything at the moment, but for every correct lynch I gain the motivation to help out. 7) I am a limited role blocker. I start with a grand total of 0 shots. 8) I are aligned with the Ensemble. I win when all threats have been eliminated. The confusion came because I got confused r.e. The "correct lynching" aspect. For a while I misremembered it as a successful lynch, and was like "can I Roleblock people because we lynched members of the Ensemble. I tried to ask night 1, got a 1 word response. Got even more confused, tried to Nightblock on Night 2 (Ryker, funnily enough). Was told that I couldn't do that AND THAT MY ROLE HAD BEEN DISABLED for night 3. Therefore, either: 1) The Mafia also have a Roleblocker, who gains power when Town members have been lynched/killed. Or something like that. 2) Due to whatever circumstances, Paperblade decided that my attempt to Roleblock Ryker on Night 2 could go through on Night 3. I don't even know anymore. As for why I've been inactive? Well, again assignments for University and generally just been busy. Also had a couple of days where I was feeling really down and had a lack of motivation to do anything.

It wasn't. My role was disabled last night, and I can only role block when Mafia are lynched, so I guess there's either a second Roleblocker who's working for the Mafia or the attempt I made to Roleblocker you on Night 2 actually happened later than I thought it would? I'm confused?

I think I'll join in the lynch Hober bandwagon. ##Vote: Hober Mallow

I guess maybe I had said something that would incriminate a Mafia member? Or maybe the fact that I was No lynching Day 1 kinda intrerested them? I'm not sure, I just trying to work stuff out. That is true. I should expand on that. When I wrote that, I was thinking "Oh, the Mafia don't know his role, but the fact they got lucky and lynched him without knowing his role benefits them as a Mafia." Will need to look and see who that benefits. And again, apologies for disclosing my role. When I did that, I was genuinely thinking "Right, I know it's not option B. There's no benefit of me just sitting there keeping this information secret. I don't want to do this, but I will do, in order to prevent people from barking up the wrong tree." And, you know I said that my role has been limited severely? I haven't been allowed to block anyone actually. So I can't comment on that stuff.

Ah, ok.

##Vote: Post Restrictions In all seriousness, if Ryker didn't know about his post restrictions until after he broke the restrictions, is it even fair to mod kill him? If he had known, then he wouldn't have broken them, so it's not deliberate intent?

That I can try and answer. Even though I've played Werewolf Before, I had never even heard of Mafia until recently. It would be fun to talk to you about Mafia though. :)

1) I don't think I'm going to get the chance at this rate, even if I hadn't claimed my role. :( And how could the discussion have been veered away from unproductive discussions without a role claim? I am confused. 3) Oh, right. I didn't even know about half of those options (I knew that the Bulletproof exists, but apart from that, I didn't know the other roles) 4) What were the flaws in Rainbow's logic? I will need to reread everything and make sure. Including Kirsche's ISO readings. Need to make sure of everything after all. 5) Oh, ok.

It was the Twitch Plays Pokemon Mafia game, and to quote the Postgame analysis of SB: "Mafia Role: Priest + No-Flip Restless Spirit Self-Vote Activator/Deactivator + Persuader Play Analysis: Played pretty standard and avoided doing a lot. Blending in worked well for SB since other people were constantly in the spotlight. Lurked really really heavily though, and could've easily been pushed." I have seen SB lurking around the thread before, and not comment anything, and SB has been blending in well a lot. Also, based on the fact that not many people have been commenting on SB's play style, I guess SB is playing pretty standard? As I said, I have been trying to learn a lot here, so I'm not 100% on my reading, but I am trying to get better. (seriously, you know when you said I was a shot in the dark? That's how I feel about pretty much everyone at the moment :/ .)

1) The reason that I claimed the role is that I knew that there would be some people who would consider option B (that the role blocker did something on night 1) and would waste their energy discussing that, when I knew that it wasn't even necessary. I wanted to make sure that the discussions that we had were productive, and not on discussing certain possibilities which I knew didn't happen. Yes, I know that no one asked, but I felt that the information was necessary. 2) Forgot about that. My bad. 3) Can you say the other ways that a kill couldn't have happened on night 1? 4) Because Rainbow's reasoning makes sense? It's based on what Kirches's readings were, and it does consider all of the options that there could have been. 5) Sorry?

I know that it's not B). I am the role blocker, but my role has been limited in such a way that I'm basically a Vanilla Ensemble at the moment. Maybe we could add an option C) That there's a body guard who protected the person being killed on Night 1, but option A) is more likely. If that's the case, and Kirsche saved Proto/Rainbow and/or SB, it is safe to assume that they are Ensemble members.

Well.... That's not good. I don't think the Mafia knew his exact role, so I guess he was killed because of his posts? (Maybe the Mafia thought he was a threat?) As for who he saved... Maybe one of the people who commented frequently?? So, like Ryker, Emelina, Blitz, myself... As they stood out more. Well, the Mafia would gain most from killing Kirsche. But then we don't know who is in the Mafia, so... :/

And the maybe is in bold as, whilst Emelina isn't my main lynch target, I am still thinking about things r.e. The question he gave me.

So, for everyone who has/hasn't voted: 1) Do we want an extension? 2) If so, what should we be focusing on tomorrow? 3) If not, who is everyone willing to lynch? 4) Is there anyone who you don't want to lynch? Me: 1) I'm not 100% sure. If we need it, then yes. If not, then no. 2) I guess we should focus on people who are being inactive & also trying to consolidate all of our views together? 3) I said it before- Ryker, Hober, YOLOSWAG, maybe Emelina and Yedi (based on Blitz's comment). I'm also torn about SB, as I read a prior game where she was Mafia, and the behaviours seemed similar (but I'm not sure on this one.) 4) Blitz, Spinal, Elieson, Rainbow. Maybe Kirche?

???????

As I said, I wanted to read a couple of games in order to learn how people act and such. I'm not applying Meta at the moment, but literally having the Meta will make things so much easier.

Ok, I will try and look for people's recent games, though I might not be able to read them all as again assignments. :/ And you know what? I didn't even realise that I was doing that. I guess the fact that you're one of the few users who has claimed their role kinda clouded my judgement. I think another reason why I doubted you was due to the fact that you were buddy-buddy with Ryker, but that seems to have changed. Give me time, as I'll need to reread all of your comments and everyone else's reads, and I will think on it. Until then... ##Unvote ##Vote: Ryker