Refa Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 @BBM what do you think about rapier refusing to vote me? i think that's the one thing throwing me off here, like...at least before the claim, there's no reason he doesn't jump on this as scum. i thought he was just fencesitting before and then was going to push a vote on me later, but he was still refusing to vote me which is throwing me for a loop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 i'm going to interpret the question "how was Refa crumbing alignment" as "why do I, Cam, think that Refa is town" and give the answer that "I don't, but am at least willing to hear out the one night", because it gives us something to work with for our own power roles initially when I thought that the Refa wagon was fake I was thinking it implied town!Refa, but I no longer hold the opinion that the Refa wagon necessarily has a lot of scum on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaze Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Just now, CT075 said: i'm going to interpret the question "how was Refa crumbing alignment" as "why do I, Cam, think that Refa is town" and give the answer that "I don't, but am at least willing to hear out the one night", because it gives us something to work with for our own power roles initially when I thought that the Refa wagon was fake I was thinking it implied town!Refa, but I no longer hold the opinion that the Refa wagon necessarily has a lot of scum on it i meant what is the joke about alignment cop i don't think there is anything to explain, i was just wondering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Snike, I read your post and honestly I just see you posting reasons for why my play from pages 5-7 are incriminating evidence for me being mafia. from my perspective boron was sus for scumreading both refa and me and it felt like she had reasons to be voting one of us there, in fact I'd have expected her to vote refa alongside me there. My responses to you are loaded because your scumread on me is loaded, you assume that everything I've had to do this game can only come from mafia and not once have I seen you consider a world where I'm doing whatever I'm doing as town. I'm not even the only one who has pointed this out, whenever I defend myself or BBM pointed these things out you claimed to be getting misrepped even though you have not been "charitable" in your read of me at all. I am not interested in engaging with you on this because I am not interested in cluttering the thread with a thunderdome between you and me where we're busy trying to tell each other why they're wrong; I made the empty unvote somewhere in page 13 because I was not interested in tunneling boron further and wanted to give you the benefit of doubt that you're town death tunneling me for bad reasons; The pro-town reason for not going on tunnels is not cluttering this thread with a clusterfuck of a tdome that makes other people not have fun with the game or unable to catch up and have reads. You and rapier keep going on about me voting boron when refa was my top scumread; refa was my top scumread and then it became boron; and yes I didn't push refa much for the rest of that day because I was busy defending myself from frankly terrible cases on me and honestly boron's treatment of refa and I didn't make me want to pursue him at that point in time. You can't seriously believe that at page 34 of the game the biggest evidence for your scumread is something that he did on page 5???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 25 minutes ago, Makaze said: Which read has changed the most for you and what has caused the change? What be the biggest change that could happen to your view of the game? 1. arguably Marth. I started theorizing that he was buddying up to Refa, but his new case on him doesn't make much sense through those lens. 2. anything proving Weapons' innocence or heavily implying it would break my stance and I don't think I'd have enough time to consolidate on another lynch. I'm uncomfortable about lynching Refa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeaponsofMassConstruction Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 I'd rather try to defend myself than claim yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaze Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Just now, Rapier said: 1. arguably Marth. I started theorizing that he was buddying up to Refa, but his new case on him doesn't make much sense through those lens. 2. anything proving Weapons' innocence or heavily implying it would break my stance and I don't think I'd have enough time to consolidate on another lynch. I'm uncomfortable about lynching Refa. i feel good about these answers we should not eliminate Rapier today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 ##Unvote I just saw the claim I've been reading the thread and stuff and I am not interested in lynching rapier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeaponsofMassConstruction Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Yeah ok cool you guys agree with me now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 You can keep stating that all you want Makaze but I'm stuck here until I'm given a reason as to why I shouldn't be. I can't agree with the logic inconsistencies and the refusal to commit to a decision for so long on some reads. Not to mention the fact that they at times seemed to instigate other people(Looking at their response to me/SB.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaze Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 3 minutes ago, Bluedoom said: ##Unvote I just saw the claim I've been reading the thread and stuff and I am not interested in lynching rapier what about weapons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iris Posted May 28 Author Share Posted May 28 (edited) Iris™ Votals: Day 1.7 (~7.5 hours left) Rapier (4): charlie, BBM, Refa, Shinori WeaponsofMassConstruction (3): Rapier, Prims, Makaze Makaze (2): Elieson, Sunwoo Refa (2): BT., j00 Bluedoom (1): Snike Prims (1): WeaponsofMassConstruction Not Voting (3): Bluedoom, CT075, Percivale The player with the most votes at the end of the Day phase will be Eliminated! With 16 alive, it takes 6 votes minimum to Eliminate a player and 10 votes to Hammer the phase early! Day 1 ends at 8:00 PM EDT on May 28th. VOTING HISTORY - Day 1 Page 2: Rapier votes for Prims Snike votes for Rapier Sunwoo votes for Snike Shinori votes for Elieson Prims votes for Snike Refa votes for Makaze Prims votes for Shinori Page 3: BBM votes for Makaze Makaze votes for BBM Page 4: WeaponsofMassConstruction votes for Prims Shinori votes for WeaponsofMassConstruction Rapier votes for Makaze Sunwoo votes for WeaponsofMassConstruction Page 5: Shinori votes for Elieson Bluedoom votes for Refa Rapier votes for BBM Page 6: WeaponsofMassConstruction votes for Sunwoo Rapier votes for Bluedoom Page 7: Refa votes for Sunwoo Bluedoom votes for Sunwoo Sunwoo votes for Refa Page 8: BBM votes for Prims Page 9: Makaze votes for Bluedoom Shinori votes for Prims Page 10: Snike votes for Bluedoom charlie votes for Shinori Prims votes for Snike BBM votes for Snike Shinori votes for WeaponsofMassConstruction Page 11: Percivale votes for Bluedoom j00 votes for Refa Page 12: Elieson votes for Makaze Page 13: Sunwoo votes for Makaze Bluedoom unvotes Page 14: charlie votes for Rapier Page 15: BT. votes for Refa j00 votes for WeaponsofMassConstruction Page 16: WeaponsofMassConstruction votes Rapier Prims votes Makaze Page 17: BBM votes WeaponsofMassConstruction Page 18: Bluedoom votes charlie Refa votes Makaze Page 19: WeaponsofMassConstruction votes Elieson Prims votes for Refa Page 20: j00 votes for Refa Percivale unvotes Page 21: Bluedoom votes for Refa Page 22: Rapier votes for WeaponsofMassConstruction Shinori votes for Percivale CT075 votes for WeaponsofMassConstruction Page 23: Refa unvotes Page 24: Makaze votes for Refa WeaponsofMassConstruction votes for Prims Prims votes for WeaponsofMassConstruction Page 25: Refa votes for Rapier Page 32: Shinori votes for Rapier Page 35: CT075 votes for Refa Page 36: CT075 unvotes Makaze votes for WeaponsofMassConstruction Page 37: Bluedoom unvotes Edited May 28 by Iris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaze Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 @j00 Refa claimed to be alignment cop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeaponsofMassConstruction Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Ok, besides me and Rapier at this point, who are your all's top choices? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaze Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Just now, WeaponsofMassConstruction said: Ok, besides me and Rapier at this point, who are your all's top choices? Who do you want to elim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeaponsofMassConstruction Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Just now, Makaze said: Who do you want to elim? Have you actually read any of my posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 hi sorry why are there 12 more pages I will try to catch up now but idk how far I will get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 2 minutes ago, Makaze said: @j00 Refa claimed to be alignment cop They claimed Jack of all trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 10 minutes ago, BBM said: Rapier can you please just claim even if it's vanilla or whatever so that the info is there to make a decision for everyone. "My role is weaker" is unhelpful and at this point your role info is necessary I'd rather wait a bit longer but some people won't be here and I can't stay here any longer for the day, so Vanilla townie I think I'm inconsequential for town both role and utility wise and if this helps clear things, I'd rather I get lynched than Refa on D1. I still advocate for lynching Weapons. Just now, WeaponsofMassConstruction said: Ok, besides me and Rapier at this point, who are your all's top choices? My scum reads have pretty much crumbled, as they weren't really that good and my lack of participation and engagement led me to hang on too much over early D1 reasons. I wouldn't vote Marth today, nor Refa (I could see the point of him being just there, but I don't want to risk it against his role and the reasons I gave before aren't strong enough), and I don't trust my read on Shinori enough. So yeah, I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BT. Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 ##Unvote @Refa This kind of sucks because I'm still hesitant about Rapier, and think he responded to my prods fine. And I don't like the idea of a turbo either. @Makaze Any slam dunks about town Rapier? Sorry if you said it before but probably faster to ask you than to go through your ISO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 7 minutes ago, Makaze said: what about weapons? I'm of the opinion that lynching away from you/weapons/rapier is the correct play, but if you asked me who I'd be stumped because I was feeling pretty strong about Refa here. Bias says snike atm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BT. Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Yeah okay no I'd rather not lynch Rapier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 I hard read snike as town at the moment. It's hard for me to think they made that whole ass makaze ISO, of which I did read and it wasn't just a tl;dr description of makaze's ISO, there were actual responses in there to makaze and talking about their thoughts. I know scum CAN do that, but I also just don't think it's snike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 I'm also tonally reading Snike's posts and I don't think their content is bad personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeaponsofMassConstruction Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 I'd be willing to bet Prims is anon lurking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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