Icon of Sin Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Yeeeah. Oujay loses AS on every axe in the game, including big losses on the most important ones (Hand Axe and Tomahawk). You don't even get one in game. Oh, how did I get 9 as his base con? 8E Merc base is 9. Really? I could've sworn you get at least one Tomahawk. Huh, that's too bad. Oh well, Hand Axes are broken in FE6. The only Tomahawk you get is in Trial Maps when you unlock Murdock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Minamimoto Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Dieck's amazing bases give him the lead and keeps him in the lead for all of early game. After that, Oujay may catch up but Dieck should be at a much higher level than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Exactly. This is what happens when posting in the wrong section. Without enemy stats in front of me, I have to use personal experience for statements like that. I know it's not far from the truth, I've raised Oujay twice and both times he ended up with fairly average stats and had no trouble doubling with the iron axe. I never gave him shit like the steel axe, but the iron axe is usually better than that anyway because of Hit. Take the high road and use both of them. This is the real truth. With arenas to bring anyone underleveled up to speed there's no excuse to not at least try everybody out when you're playing on an emulator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangerine Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Without enemy stats in front of me, I have to use personal experience for statements like that. I know it's not far from the truth, I've raised Oujay twice and both times he ended up with fairly average stats and had no trouble doubling with the iron axe. It's not that he has trouble doubling, it's that he is unable to one round because he's weak. If he upgrades to stronger swords, he is almost always losing the weapon triangle and that puts him in danger. I never gave him shit like the steel axe, but the iron axe is usually better than that anyway because of Hit. Well, Oujay sucks with the Steel Axe, but it's amazing for units that can take advantage. Dieck has great skill to make up for the Steel Axe's hit rate (as well as Lances being everywhere) and enough Con to still double with it. This gives him more power than an Iron and increased weapon EXP for Axes. This gets him to Silver/Killer much quicker than Oujay gets there. Being able to use both Legendary weapons without AS loss is nice too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uguu Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 All weapons give the same wexp in fe6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangerine Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 (edited) Right. wtf Edited January 16, 2010 by Tangerine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 When I first brought up that Oujay was able to double reliably with the iron axe the discussion was about the speed penalties he takes from axes. As far as I'm concerned the steel axe is only any good for Dick. He's the only one with both the Skill and Con required to use it reliably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangerine Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 That's the way Axes should be anyway; powerful and inaccurate. Though Hand Axe is way too powerful in FE6. I really didn't like what they did with Axes after it. I mean, every game is already 5:1 for lance users, why make Axes more accurate on top of it? It's stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 When you're playing a physical copy of the game without savestates it's nice to have reliable rather than random characters. Nobody likes to restart chapters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangerine Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 When you're playing a physical copy of the game without savestates it's nice to have reliable rather than random characters. Nobody likes to restart chapters. Well, I don't use savestates even when playing FE6. I'd rather restart a chapter than be invincible. Axes are far and away the best weapon in FE7, for example, because they're accurate and the strongest weapon type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 (edited) Well, I don't use savestates even when playing FE6. I'd rather restart a chapter than be invincible. Axes are far and away the best weapon in FE7, for example, because they're accurate and the strongest weapon type. That's been known since the game came out. I was just saying the reason why I think the developers chose to make axes more accurate, and why they've been moving away from randomness in general ever since FE5. I make savestates all the time for a variety of reasons, though I make a point of not reloading from them unless something really silly happens, like an enemy critical from a three percent chance. Edited January 16, 2010 by Hero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Tarrasque Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Dieck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybee Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Dieck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ether Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Dieck,it's not even a contest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Dieck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 I am sorry, I just had to say it. Its a good thing you said it.Dieck is definitely BETTER than Oujay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybee Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 What an important topic to bump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ϲharlie Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Oujay because his speed and luck growths are better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Dieck because he's too manly for his shirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Better support pool means Dieck is winning.... Good bases and early arrival is good too! Oujay arrives a bit late and has a ton of unreliable supports... LOLWENDY for sure... the only good one he has is Lalum but is likely to be a support parasite for her since Lalum won't benefit much from Oujay... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ϲharlie Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 But does Dieck have an empire? I THINK NOT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 (edited) But Dieck has sexier abs. Like, mad sexy abs. Oujay won't even show us his abs if he has any. I'd give a Kingdom an Empire for a Heart sexy abs. Edited December 26, 2010 by Luminescent Blade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEST TRYNDAMERE PLAYER Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kintenbo Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 I'd say Dieck has the bigger *insert obvious joke here*! And his ability to actually effectively use his secondary weapons is nice, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darros Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Oujay has an empire. Dieck has better stats/supports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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