Kintenbo Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Shouldn't muscle count? 8 would make no sense for me....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moss-Head Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Ummmm...I'm off the charts. Male. 12 years old. 5 Feet tall. 86 pounds. ...So that comes out to -2. Can somebody calculate this??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK-201 Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 If you read the first post it means your con is 1. Enjoy the speed loss from every weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstraLunaSol Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 (edited) If you read the first post it means your con is 1. Enjoy the speed loss from every weapon. Hey I have a Con of 2. Though if anything this chart is more accurate of FE5 build, rather than the others. (Hence why many older people are getting 7-12's, somewhat average for FE5) Though honestly a 2? I'm smaller than damned Sara. Edited May 23, 2010 by AstraLunaSol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 My CON was -1. So that means 1? Shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 21 years 6 foot 231 lbs (muscle > fat) = 9 con. Hmm. Personal investigation suggests I would be at least 12 to 13 con. I'd say I'm more of a Hector than an Eliwood as far as body structure goes. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intoner Two Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 (edited) I've some theories, or rather, ideas for accurately estimating one's FE constitution, if anyone's interested in listening, here goes~: Con seems to be a general estimate of the character's mass, physique and also their general health/physical maturity, with that all in mind, I came up with this method to fairly determine one's con (since realistically speak, a person who's 6'5" and 310 lbs would have more CON than someone who's 5'4" and 150 lbs and the same age, or otherwise be very close if their other factors were swaying in odd directions) sue me, I was bored~ starting at 0 CON : 1) your height: 1 point of CON for each foot (12 inches, or approx. 30 centimeters; if you're within 2 in/5 cm of a given foot, go with that one) that you are tall 2) your sex/gender: if you are male, skip this step; if you are female, subtract (-) 1 point of CON 3) your weight: add (+) 1 point of CON for every 45 pounds or approx. 20.5kg that you weigh, if you are 8 lbs (3 kg) above or below a multiple of 45, go with that weight 4) your body fat %/estimate of health (just guess as best you can; if you've never been told, consult ths page and make a guesstimate after viewing the Body Mass Index article, if you like) if you are male, are you within 13-18% of a body fat percentage? if so, add (+) 1 point of CON; if you fall within 10~12% or 19~21% body fat, skip this step; otherwise, subtract (-) 1 point of CON for every 4% of body fat that you are above/below this % if you are female, are you within 15~22% of a body fat percentage? if so, add (+) 1 point of CON; if you fall within 13~14% or 23~24% body fat, skip this step; otherwise, subtract (-) 1 point of CON for every 3% of body fat that you are above/below this % If you aren't aware or simply are drawing a blank, females require a higher amount of essential body fat due to the potential to bear children and other hormonal functions; that is why they have less restrictions herein. Moving on~ 5) last "important" factor is your age if you are less than 20 years and 9 months old, subtract (-) 1 point of con if you are between the age of 20 years and 9 months old and 52 years and 9 months old, add (+) 1 point of CON if you happen to be older than 52 years and 9 months old, subtract (-) 1 point of con here's an example using myself: I'm 6'4" tall and am male +6 (6 CON) I weigh about 260 lbs, 45*5 is 225, therefore I'm not within 8 lbs of the next point mark, +5 (11 CON) My body fat% is about 27%, that's 9% over the "good" range, so I subtract 2 points since 9 is very close to 8=2*4; -2 (9 CON) I'm going to be 21 within the next 19 days, +1 (10 CON) so, as a bare unit I would have 10 CON BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE! As we very well know in Fire Emblem, units tend to have varying amounts of CON added to them or taken away due to the class they have. After all, if you're wearing heavy armor, you would weigh more and that is also a factor in CON (and explains how someone like Murdock can end up with 20 CON, ya dig?). OPTIONAL: 6) for determining your con as varying classes, take your previous tally and do this: if you are male: subtract (-) 1 point of CON if you are a Mage, Monk, Shaman, Priest or Bard/Heron -or- add (+1) point of CON if you are a Cavalier, Wyvern Rider, Nomad, Wolf, Hawk, Dragon -or- add (+2) points of CON if you are an Armor Knight, Axefighter, or a Brigand, Pirate, Tiger, Lion -otherwise- use your standard tally EDIT: added axe-users to men's list of +2 for the reason that -- requires immense physical training to which would result in a boost in CON if you are female: subtract (-) 1 point of CON if you are a Dancer/Heron -or- add (+1) point of CON if you are a Mercenary, Soldier, Cavalier, Nomad, Tiger, Dragon -or- add (+2) points of CON if you are an Armor Knight, a Wyvern Rider, or a Lionness -otherwise- use your standard tally EDIT: deleted some words I found to be too confusing and yeah... lol, silly me~ as an Archer (my favorite class), I'd have my 10 Con still, using this system; though as a Monk I'd have 9 Con, still quite fair if you ask me :) try it and tell me what ya'll think, please? hope ya enjoy it somewhat :D as another random example! let's do Sofiya's (FE6) CON we'll say she's oh... barely 4 ft tall and of course a girl, so 4-1 (3 CON) she probably weighs about 90 lbs (barely) so let's add 2 (5 CON) we know she's very skinny and frail, so it's likely she's under the zone/sweet-spot/what have you for Body fat, so let's subtract 1 CON again (4 CON) and she's really old... so old, she still doesn't even look legal (in a few countries anyway) so we ought to take away another CON according to this system (3 CON) 3 CON... *checks* well how do ya like those apples!? the actual Sofiya was given 3 Con herself by IS... maybe I'm on to something? XD Edited June 1, 2010 by Rhaan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whase Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 height: 1.92 meters = 7 con gender: Male = still 7 con weight: about 60kg = 7+3 = 10 con body fat percentage: not in the mood to calculate, but I'm like really skinny so I'll subtract 1= 10-1= 9 con I'm 18 years old: 9-1= 8 con I'm going for soldier, means nothing changes. 8 con means I'm getting slowed down by an iron lance a little. sounds pretty accurate to me, 6 or 7 would even sound more accurate, but it gets close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstraLunaSol Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 Using Rhaans method.......I get 7 Con, much more reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandjackal Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 Let's see, according to this I would have...9 Con. Sounds about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 Let's see... Still 8. I'm fine with that, though. And Flux still doesn't weights me down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon of Sin Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 6 (5'10, close to 6') + 0 (Manly man) + 4 (190 lbs) + 1 (15%) + 1 (22 years old) + 2 (bullshiting a Warrior or a Berserker class into this, can't see them weaker than Mercs and Nomads). Equals 14 Con. Sounds good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 (edited) With the new system... Height: 5'3"= 5 con. Gender: Female. -1 = 4 Weight: ~117 lbs= 2x45+27 = +2 = 6 Body Fat Percentage: ~19-20%= +1 = 7 Age: 16. -1 = 6 Class: Myrmidon. +/-0 Final Con: 6. Still the same as before. Wo Dao FTW. Edited June 1, 2010 by Luminescent Blade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewjeo Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 6-7 CON before the class. Fits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fayt Zelpher Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 Well, lets see. 6 from height, 0 for gender, say 5.5 for weight (I'm dead even between 5 and 6 given my weight), and -1 for body fat yield 10.5. Rounding down for age (18 years, 8 months) gives 10 --> 9 (Mage class) which seems fairly reasonable. I'll be wielding most magic without a problem, I imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intoner Two Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 (edited) I'm glad ya'll are finding this helpful ^_^ that's what I hoped for another example using Murdock himself Note that if you are figuring for a promoted unit, to add in their bonus for promoting after you're done with your tally (is why I omit promoted classes on the list of class modifiers). Murdock: well... he is very tall and imposing, his portrait using up about all of its pixel limits, we'll give him 7 with no reduction since male (7 CON) there is little doubt that his frame is supported by a great deal of mass, guesstimate near 45*6=270 lbs (122 kg) (13 CON) basing off the art, his face does not show signs of being overly fat or skinny and his body is adequately proportioned for his size; +1 (14 CON) and the art collection reveals his age to be in the 40s in the time of FE6, therefore another +1 (15 CON) class bonus is +2 (17 CON) he's promoted as a General so another +2 (19 CON) 19; not 20,which is still ridiculous XD but given how close it is, I say this system is pretty solid, at least in rough comparison to the games EDIT: adding in the hypothetical CON of one of my most favorite characters, Ethlin (Seisen no Keifu) according to data, Ethlin is 164 cm; 30*5 is 150 cm which she's close to so 5 -1 for female (4 CON) this same data states that her weight is 47.1 kg; 20.5kg*2=41, close, so we'll use that for +2 (6 CON) her art depicts her as a rather slender woman so in good shape, but given she'd have been recently pregnant, we won't hold that against her (logically her body fat % would have risen slightly beyond what it normally is for carrying her kids), so no alteration (6 CON) IIRC, it was generally agreed that Ethlin wasn't quite in her 20s yet during her time alive, so -1 (5 CON) she's a Troubadour so we do nothing; 5 con for Ethlin in comparison, FE9!Mist and Priscilla had 4 con, Nanna starts with 4 bld, Clarine and FE10!Mist have 5 con; pretty consistent :) Edited June 1, 2010 by Rhaan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrhesia Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 8 Con, no change for being an Archer or Thief. THAT'S RIGHT NINO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momo Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 (edited) So using that, I'd be either 4 or 5, so I'd still be the worst axe user ever. I really should eat a hamburger or something... edit: that piggyback offer is still on the table btw Edited June 1, 2010 by NotSal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frat_tastic Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 This is definitely more accurate than the one in the OP. I hate the whole BMI thing (when based on just numbers, actually body fat% tests are fine) since it makes me fatter than I seem (I'm technically overweight, but its not fat, mostly muscle). Still, here is mine according to Rhaan's system: 6'1"=6 points 235 lbs= 5 points Male= 0 points BMI (According to the chart)~29= -2 points 23 years old=1 point TOTAL= 10 CON Probably an archer or some kind of foot fighter, so it'd most likely stay 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 6+0+2+0-1 So 7 base. I like Monks/Mages, so 6 final CON. Or I could go Myrmidon for 7 CON, which is enough to use Killing Edges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 Ooh. Con 8 with the new system. What was I before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intoner Two Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 8, maybe. I already forgot mostly. 18, male, 5'11", ~125 pounds. Fair enough, I guess, except I'm still convinced CON is indicative of nothing. The same; in general, this is to be more accurate but in some instances, your CON may stay the same(depending on your general health really, as my system basically is meant to balance both the healthy and heavy people, too; a heavy + healthy person would thus benefit most but still probably not be too ridiculous). Likewise, the people who are younger should get a more indicative number of their CON instead of their previous low or otherwise negative numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 New system Height: +5 (~167cm) Sex: 0 (male) Weight: +3 (~60kg) Body fat: +1 (BMI is ~21.5 -> Body fat ~15.8%) Age: +1 (27) Class: -1 (Physicist) Con: 9 Too high, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crysta Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 I think I'm a 5. I can compete with Erk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 The same; in general, this is to be more accurate but in some instances, your CON may stay the same(depending on your general health really, as my system basically is meant to balance both the healthy and heavy people, too; a heavy + healthy person would thus benefit most but still probably not be too ridiculous). Likewise, the people who are younger should get a more indicative number of their CON instead of their previous low or otherwise negative numbers. You actually dug up my old post. I commend you! A thousand commendations! But yes, the system does seem more indicative of TruCon. I, at least, feel more confidant in this 8 than that 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.