NinjaMonkey Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Please vote for what YOU think is the best AND worst in the series for this round. Failure to vote for both will result in your vote not being counted. The round will last for about a week or so, after which I will tally the votes, and will add the top three to a list in the opening post of the next topic. It would be nice if you nominate ideas for when I'm out of them. I'll keep track of the nominations. Please nominate only once a round. You may nominate for idea that have already been nominated. Please remember to nominate. Also, if your vote is not for one person/thing/etc, it will be thrown out. Your vote will also be thrown out if the FE game it is from is not stated if it is needed. This is mainly to avoid confusion. If you excessively complain about the results of previous rounds, you will not be allowed to vote in these topics for a period of time that will be determined later. A list will be kept of those who will not be allowed to vote, and how many rounds until they can vote again. Previous winners (Best) Best NPC: 1st- 3-13 Archer ; 2nd- FE10 Daein Army ; 3rd- Eltshan Best Swordmaster: 1st- Rutger ; 2nd- Lakche ; 3rd- Shanan Best Hair: 1st- Titania ; 2nd- Heath and Stefan (tie) Best Non-Final Boss: 1st- Black Knight ; 2nd- Alvis and Trabant (tie) Best Thief: 1st- Pahn ; 2nd- Matthew ; 3rd- Lifis, Volke, and Sothe (tie, FE10 Sothe can only be assumed) Best Personal Weapon: 1st- Graphcalibur and Pugi (tie) ; 3rd - Wolf Beil Best Chapter: 1st- FE10 2-E and FE5 chapter 14 (tie) ; 3rd- FE6 Chapter 21, FE5 chapter 24x, FE5 chapter 13, FE4 chapter 5, FE5 chapter 22, FE9 chapter 13, FE9 chapter 26, FE8 Ephraim's Route chapter 11, FE10 4-5, FE9 chapter 17, and FE10 3-E (tie) Best Final Chapter- 1st- FE9 ; 2nd- FE4 ; 3rd- FE5 Best Final Boss Weapon- 1st- Judge ; 2nd- Flametongue and Loputousu (tie) Best Personality: 1st- Levin and Kieran (tie) ; 3rd- Wallace Best Rapist or Attempted Rapist: 1st- Narshen ; 2nd- Oliver ; 3rd- FE10 opening movie soldiers Best Tactician: 1st- Mark ; 2nd- Soren ; 3rd- Jeigan Book 2 Best Est Archetype: 1st- Nino ; 2nd- Sara ; 3rd- Zeiss and Pelleas (tie) Best GBA Critical animation- 1st- Lyn (Sol Katti) ; 2nd- Warrior (Axe) ; 3rd- Hector (Armads) Best Console Critical animation- 1st- Celice 1st attack ; 2nd- FE4 Swordmaster/FE10 Black Knight (tie) Best Epilogue- 1st- FE4 ; 2nd- FE10 ; 3rd- FE9 Best Gato Archetype- 1st- Athos/FE5 Sety (tie) ; 3rd- Galzus Best DS critical animation- 1st- Hero (2nd attack), Swordmaster (2nd attack), Mage, Lord, Berserker (1st attack) (tie) Best Form of Abuse- 1st-Favoritism; 2nd-FE9 BEXP Abuse; 3rd-Arena Abuse Best FE- 1st- FE4 ; 2nd- FE5 ; 3rd- FE7 and 10 (tie) Best Ruler: 1st- Alvis ; 2nd- Ashnard, Naesala, Caineghis, Dheginsea, Sanaki (tie) Best Gaiden chapter: 1st- FE7 19x(HM) and FE5 21x (tie); 3rd- FE7 19xx(HM) Best Unit: 1st- Levin!Arthur; 2nd- Ike (O_O); 3rd- Seth Best Merc/Hero: 1st- Dieck ; 2nd- FE3 Oguma ; 3rd- Skasaher Best Paladin (Anything that promotes into it as well): 1st- Seth and Aless (tie) ; 3rd- Titania Best Peg Knight: 1st- FE10 Elincia ; 2nd- FE4 Fee and FE3 Book 2 Paola (tie) Best Defense Chapter: 1st- FE10 3-13 ; 2nd- FE9 C8, FE10 2-E (tie) Best Archer/Sniper/Marksmen: 1st- FE10 Shinon ; 2nd- FE4 Jamka, FE7 Rebecca (O_O) (tie) Best Desert Chapter: 1st FE8 Scorched Sand ; 2nd FE10 4-3 ; 3rd FE7 Living Legend Most Hyped: 1st Lilina ; 2nd FE10 Haar ; 3rd Nino Best Addition to the Game Series: 1st Capture ; 2nd Weapon Triangle ; 3rd Rescue and Skills (tie) Best Lord Unit: 1st Sigurd ; 2nd FE10 Ike ; 3rd Arum and FE9 Ike (tie) Most Generic Playable Character: 1st Ralph ; 2nd Aran ; 3rd Vika (she got exactly 1 vote) Best Castle: 1st Crimea Castle and Grado Keep (tie) ; 2nd Daein Keep Best Dragonkid: 1st Fa ; 2nd Chiki ; 3rd Al Best Staff: 1st Again ; 2nd Physic and Warp (tie) Best Knight/General: 1st FE10 Gatrie ; 2nd Oswin ; 3rd Wallace and Amelia (tie) Best Priest/Cleric/Bishop: 1st Sapy ; 2nd Moulder, Natasha and Serra (tie) Best Glass Cannon: 1st Sara ; 2nd Micaiah ; 3rd Lucius Best Wyvernrider: 1st FE10!Haar ; 2nd Miledy ; 3rd FE3Book2!Paola and Altenna (tie) Best Chapter Goal: 1st Rout ; 2nd Escape and Defend (tie) Best First Boss: 1st Lawrence ; 2nd O'Neill ; 3rd Greil Most Important Stat: 1st Speed ; 2nd Defence ; 3rd Strength Best Red/Green Knight: 1st Sain ; 2nd Abel ; 3rd FE9!Kieran and Lance (tie) Best Healer (primary use is healing): 1st Priscilla and Saphy (tie) ; 3rd Laura Best Prologue Chapter: 1st FE4 Prologue ; 2nd FEDS Prologue ; 3rd FE10 2-P Best Weapon Type: 1st Swords ; 2nd Axes and Wind Magic (tie) Best Generic Weapon: 1st Javelin ; 2nd Killing Edge ; 3rd FE10!Hand Axe and Steel Sword (tie) Best Female Physical Fighting Unit: 1st Paola (FE3 Book 2) ; FE9!Titania ; 3rd Lakche Best Jeigen (Seth and FE9!Titania excluded): 1st FE7!Marcus ; 2nd Sothe ; 3rd FE6!Marcus Best Player Phase Battle Music: 1st The Devoted ; 2nd FE5!Attack, On Glory's Wings (tie) Best Support Unit: 1st Saphy and FE10!Reyson (tie) ; 3rd FEDS!Lena Best Terrain Type: 1st Forest ; 2nd FE4!Road ; 3rd Wardwood tile, FE10!Heal Hedge and FE5!Mountain (tie) Best Facial Hair: 1st Nolan ; 2nd Tauroneo ; 3rd Oifaye Best Skill: 1st Pursuit ; 2nd Galdrar ; 3rd FE5!Wrath Best Unlockable Character: 1st Ashnard ; 2nd Lyon ; 3rd Farina Best Non-recruitable Female Boss (Excluding Ashera): 1st Ishtar ; 2nd Selena ; 3rd Brenya Best Green-haired Archer: 1st Rebecca ; 2nd FE12!Ryan ; FE10!Rolf Best Offense: 1st Levin!Sety ; 2nd FE10!Ike ; 3rd Othin Best Recruitment Theme: 1st FE10 ; 2nd FE4 and FE8 (tie) Best Character Name: 1st Sirius ; 2nd Skasasher; 3rd L'Arachel Best Support Coversation: Volke/Bastian C (FE9); 2nd Kieran/Rhys A (FE9) and Bartre/Renault A (tie) Best Enemy Recruit: 1st FE9!Jill and Ayra (tie) ; 3rd Rutger Best Weapon Name: 1st Tyrfing ; 2nd Alondite and Florete (tie) Best Artwork: 1st FE11!Minerva ; 2nd FE10!Boyd and FE12!Sirius (tie) Best Canon Couple: 1st HectorXLyn; 2nd SigurdXDiadora ; 3rd SethXEirika Best Crack Pairing: 1st SigurdXAyra ; 2nd SainXFlorina ; 3rd JillXMist Best Japanese Name: 1st Soanvalcke ; 2nd Tiamat ; 3rd Zaggaro Best Princess: 1st Ayra ; 2nd Minerva ; 3rd FE9!Elincia Best Prince: 1st Joshua ; 2nd Marth ; 3rd Jamka Best FE Soundtrack: 1st FE4 ; 2nd FE10 ; 3rd FE8 Best Fighter or Warrior: 1st FE9!Boyd and Othin (tie) ; 3rd Nolan Best Country Name: 1st Crimea and Thracia (tie) ; 3rd Agustria Best Twins: 1st Lakche/Shasaher ; 2nd Jorge/Daniel, Briggid/Aideen and Ephraim/Eirika (tie) Previous winners (Worst) Worst NPC: 1st- The three generic Caelin soldiers in FE7 ; 2nd- Lachesis' 3 Pallies and FE8 Chapter 19 Armor Knights (tie) Worst Swordmaster: 1st- Karla ; 2nd- Shanam ; 3rd- Lucia Worst Hair: 1st- Vaida ; 2nd- Gheb, Lowen, and Makalov (tie) Worst Non-Final Boss: 1st- Aion ; 2nd- Toras ; 3rd Batta the Beast Worst Thief: 1st- Cath ; 2nd- Daisy ; 3rd- Ricardo Worst Personal Weapon: 1st- FE9 Rolf's Bow ; 2nd- Sol Katti ; 3rd- Daim Thunder, Ettard, Amiti of FE9, and Caldabolg (tied) Worst Chapter: 1st- Lyn's prologue normal mode ; 2nd- FE6 chapter 14 ; 3rd- FE7 Chapter 11 (Eliwood's tale), FE10 4-1, FE10 1-5, FE4 chapter 7, and FE7 16x/17x (tie) Worst Final chapter: 1st- FE6 ; 2nd- FE10 ; 3rd- FE8 Worst Final Boss Weapon: 1st- Dark breath ; 2nd- Nightmare ; 3rd- Ravager Worst Personality: 1st- Aran and Vika (tie) ; 3rd- Soren, Florina, Horace and Clarine (tie) Worst Rapist or Attempted Rapist: 1st- Gheb ; 2nd- Oliver ; 3rd- General Lang, Eliot, Garnef, and Narshen (tie) Worst Tactician: 1st- Malledus ; 2nd- Mark ; 3rd- Soren Worst Est archetype: 1st- Sophia ; 2nd- Est and Fiona (Tie) Worst GBA critical animation: 1st- Great Knight ; 2nd- Thief ; 3rd- Mage, Bishop, Pirate, Soldier, and Ewan (tie) Worst Console critical animation; 1st- FE10 Sword Armor ; 2nd- FE4 Mage Knight ; 3rd- FE4 Bow Users Worst Epilogue: 1st- FE9 ; 2nd- FE11 ; 3rd- FE8 and FE4 (tie) Worst Gato Archetype: 1st- Karel ; 2nd- Gato/Gotoh ; 3rd- Lehran Worst DS critical animation: 1st- Sorceror, General (Bow), Mage (tie) Worst Form of Abuse: 1st-Battle Save Abuse; 2nd-Arena Abuse; 3rd-RNG Stat Abuse Worst FE: 1st- FE1 ; 2nd- FE7 and 8 (tie) Worst Ruler: 1st- Desmond; 2nd- Dheginsea; 3rd- Mordred, Alvis, Darin, Talis, Nailah, Micaiah, Victor (7 way tie ) Worst Gaiden chapter: 1st- FE5 24x; 2nd- FE7 19xx(HM); 3rd- FE5 14x, FE6 22x, FE7 31x(HM), FE11 16x (tie) Worst Unit: 1st- Bantu; 2nd- Yuno and Lyre (tie) Worst Merc/Hero: 1st- FEDS Samson ; 2nd- Oujay ; 3rd- FE3 Samson Worst Paladin (Anything that promotes into it as well): 1st- Arran ; 2nd- Zealot ; 3rd- Vyland Worst Peg Knight: 1st- FEDS Est ; 2nd- FE6 Yuno ; 3rd- Sigrun, FE9 Elincia, Florina and Syrene (tie) Worst Defense Chapter: 1st- FE7 C15 ; 2nd- FE9 C13 ; 3rd- FE7 C18 (HM), FE7 C28 (HM), FE9 C8, FE10 1-5, FE10 3-5 (tie) Worst Archer/Sniper/Marksmen: FE6 Wolt ; 2nd- FE5 Ronan, FE9 Rolf (tie) Worst Desert Chapter: 1st FE6 Arcadia ; 2nd FE9 Chapter 15 ; 3rd FE10 4-3 Least Hyped: 1st Thomas ; 2nd FE10 Aran ; 3rd Eliwood ; Arum and Syrene (Tied) Worst Addition to the Game Series: 1st Reclass ; 2nd GBA support system ; 3rd Fatigue Worst Lord Unit: 1st Lyn ; 2nd Roy ; 3rd Micaiah Least Generic Playable Character: 1st Levin ; 2nd Oliver ; 3rd Ardan Worst Castle: 1st Nados Castle ; 2nd Laus (yes, a territory was voted as the second worst castle) ; 3rd Araphen Castle, Jehanna Hall, Castle Nox and Castle Goldoa Worst Dragonkid: 1st Al ; 2nd Myrrh ; 3rd Chiki Worst Staff: 1st Silence ; 2nd Berserk ; 3rd Again Worst Knight/General: 1st Wendy ; 2nd Meg ; 3rd Ardan Worst Priest/Cleric/Bishop: 1st Corple ; 2nd Wrys ; 3rd Renault Worst Glass Cannon: 1st Lilina ; 2nd Diadora, Micaiah, Sophia (3 way tie) Worst Wyvernrider: 1st Eda ; 2nd FEDS!Est ; 3rd Zeiss Worst Chapter Goal: 1st Seize ; 2nd Rout ; 3rd Survive and Escape (tie) Worst First Boss: 1st O'Neill ; 2nd Greil ; 3rd Lawrence Least Important Stat: 1st Resistance ; 2nd Luck ; 3rd Skill Worst Red/Green Knight: 1st Alec ; 2nd Noish ; 3rd Alva Worst Healer (primary use is healing): 1st Renault ; 2nd FE10!Oliver and Wrys (tie) Worst Prologue Chapter: 1st FE7 (Lyn's Mode) ; 2nd FE8 Prologue ; 3rd FE9 Prologue and FE10 3-P (tie) Worst Weapon Type: 1st Knives ; 2nd Dark Magic ; 3rd Axes Worst Generic Weapon: 1st FE10!Longbows ; 2nd Slim Sword ; 3rd Hammer Worst Female Physical Fighting Unit: 1st Wendy ; 2nd Lyre ; 3rd Yunno Worst Jeigen (Seth and FE9!Titania excluded): 1st Arran; 2nd Eyevel ; FEDS!Jeigan Worst Player Phase Battle Music: 1st FE8 Attack ; 2nd Clash, March, FE6!Attack and FE7!Strike (four way tie) Worst Support Unit: 1st FEDS!Rickard ; 2nd Cath ; 3rd FE9!Sothe Worst Terrain Type: 1st Desert, 2nd Peak ; 3rd FE5!Throne Worst Facial Hair: 1st FE9!Lekain ; 2nd FE6!Bartre ; 3rd Dozla Worst Skill: 1st Shriek ; 2nd Sure Strike ; 3rd Mercy Worst Unlockable Character: 1st FE9!Oliver ; 2nd Valter and Lyon (tie) Worst Non-recruitable Female Boss (Excluding Ashera): 1st Hilda ; 2nd Sonia ; 3rd Petrine Worst Green-haired Archer: 1st FE11!Tomas ; 2nd Wolt ; 3rd FE9!Rolf Worst Offense: 1st FE9!Sothe ; 2nd Sylvia ; 3rd Lara Worst Recruitment Theme: 1st FE2 ; 2nd FE6 ; 3rd FE8 Worst Character Name: 1st Dorcas ; 2nd Erk ; 3rd Carrion Worst Support Conversation: 1st Hector/Florina C ; 2nd Lance/Alan C ; 3rd Vaida/Dorcas C Worst Enemy Recruit: 1st Oliver; 2nd Cath ; 3rd FE11!Rickard Worst Weapon Name: 1st Double Bow ; 2nd Lughnasdh ; 3rd Laundry Pole Worst Artwork: FE1!Dolph ; 2nd Lance ; 3rd FE9!Tormod Worst Canon Couple: 1st MicaiahXSothe and AstridXMakalov (tie) ; 3rd AbelXEst Worst Crack pairing: 1st IkeXMia ; 2nd MarcusXMerlinus and IkeXSoren (tie) Worst Japanese Name: 1st Tomth, Asseray and Xyst (tie) Worst Princess: 1st Almedha ; 2nd Eirika ; 3rd Clarine Worst Prince: 1st Zephiel ; 2nd Marth ; 3rd Levin Worst Soundtrack: 1st FE6 ; 2nd FE7 ; 3rd FE8 Worst Fighter or Warrior: 1st FE7!Bartre ; 2nd FE11!Cord ; 3rd Wade Worst Country Name: 1st Gra ; 2nd Carcino ; 3rd Dolhr Worst Twins: 1st Lethe/Lyre ; 2nd Yumina/Yubello ; 3rd Ephraim/Eirika Nominations Best/Wost Reference to plant-life (4) Best/Worst Quote (7) Best/Worst Pet Most/Least Depressing Ending Most/Least Badass Unit Best/Worst healing items (inc. staves) Best/Worst In-game Nickname (2) Best/Worst Dodge Animation Best Worst Mount Name Best/Worst Hardcore Character Best/Worst Protective Item Most Easy/Difficult Boss (4) Most Easy/Difficult Chapter Best/Worst Mount Best/Worst Legendary Hero (3) Best/Worst Verbal Tic Least/Most Ugliest Generic Boss (2) Best/Worst Generic Boss Best/Worst Death Theme Best/Worst Enemy Phase Battle Theme Best/Worst Special Battle Theme (3) Best/Worst Character Theme Best/Worst Map Theme Best/Worst FE Theme (3) Best/Worst Story Best/Worst Sound Effect Best/Worst Feminine-looking Male except Lucius (2) Best/Worst Holy Weapon Best/Worst Version of Wrath Best/Worst Flying Unit Best/Worst Late Non-Final Boss (2) Best/Worst Preparation Screen Music (3) Best/Worst Skills Combo Best/Worst Bald Unit Best/Worst Boss theme (2) Best/Worst Red-haired Unit (2) Best/Worst Manakete/Laguz Best/Worst Defence (2) Best/Worst Character Outfit (2) Best/Worst Text Sound Best/Worst Triangle Attack Best/Worst Story Best: FE10 Worst: FE7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvercrow Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Best: FE4 Worst: FE8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darros Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 (edited) Best: If youve played FE4 and dont vote for it you're an idiot. Honorable mention to FE5, FE2, and from what I've played so far, FE10. Worst: BSFE of that counts. If not, FE6. Edited January 23, 2011 by Darros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esaka Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Best: FE4, Gen 1 alone beats anything else all FE games have to offer, "the story of a man who slowly losses everything but still keeps going" is incredibly DAMN worthy. Worst: FE6... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Best: Genealogy of the Holy War Worst: Radiant Dawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Best: FE10 Worst: lolFEDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Best: FE12 Worst: FE8 (if we're allowed to pick which one, Eirika's route) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 I've played FE4 and am not voting for it. Best: FE10. Yeah, there's a lot of controversy over it, but it was the only one to really engage me. Worst: FE6. Just add it to my pile of problems with this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Best: FE4. Worst: FE10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon of Sin Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Best : FE4 Worst : FE8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.M. Gei Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Best: FE10 Worst: FE6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Best: RD. Worst: FE7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Wow, is FE10 actually going to give FE4 a run for it's money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iris Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Best: FE4 Worst: FE6 Nominating Best/Worst Legendary Hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krad Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Best: FE4 Worst: FE1/FE3 book 1/FEDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Wow, is FE10 actually going to give FE4 a run for it's money? Bland characters and indecisive rulers make a good story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Rey León Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Best: FE4 Worst: FE6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Bland characters and indecisive rulers make a good story? Yes, it's such a shame that in FE10 the rulers actually have to make difficult moral decisions. They should have just have made it like FE8 where it's blatantly obvious who the bad guys are, that way the characters don't actually have to think or risk making mistakes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Bland characters and indecisive rulers make a good story? I'm going to side with Anouleth on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Best: FE7, honorable mention to FE4 Worst: FE10, dishonorable mention to FE8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venusaur Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Best: Haven't played FE4 enough, so I'll go with FE7. Worst: FE11. At least FE8 has backstories with its characters, and more than just Marth gets a role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Best: HOLY WAR~ FE4 Worst: FE1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Envoy of the Beginning Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Wow, is FE10 actually going to give FE4 a run for it's money? No one has played FE4. No one. Joke out of the way, voting FE4 for best and FE10 for worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Yes, it's such a shame that in FE10 the rulers actually have to make difficult moral decisions. They should have just have made it like FE8 where it's blatantly obvious who the bad guys are, that way the characters don't actually have to think or risk making mistakes! The thing that does bother me is that they have some sort of black/white morality when it comes to deciding. "WE HAVE TO ATTACK YOU OR ELSE ALL THE PEOPLE IN MY COUNTRY WILL DIE", or the "MAIDEN WE NEED YOU OR ELSE WE ARE USELESS" makes it seem as some kind of joke plot. Not saying I don't like it, though. Unlike some of the other FEs, it actually managed to variate, and make it's story pretty unique. Oh, and for honorable mention, I'll pick FE9. That's a plot. A well-written that at, too. With more than 10 characters with a personality! No one has played FE4. No one. Joke out of the way, voting FE4 for best and FE10 for worst. That's what I thought, actually. Members that are new to the series, or have played one of the newer, 3D games first, will usually be voting for FE10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybee Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Best: FE4. No contest. Worst: FE6. FE8 sucks too, but ehh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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