ShinKuma Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 I like Eclipse response. Alcohol is all good but hell people just don't know how to handle it. I've seen plenty of fools get stupid after drinking. But I'll say alcohol makes people in japan a lot more tolerable on most parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Alcohol is more damaging to you than cannabis. Don't drink, kids. Smoke weed instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolDeath Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Depends on the school, but it tends to be. College is a time that involves stuff like parties and experiments. I never thought I would smoke weed, then I smoked weed. I never thought I'd get so drunk I'd throw up, but I got that drunk. It happens in college. I don't think I have the words to properly express how much I want to just tease you to death right now. The urge is so powerful that I think I need to actually state that it exists in order to not fall victim to it, which is why I am making this very pointless post. I'm trying to fight it though. And yeah, smoke pot instead, listen to the guy in cop college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someonewhodied Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Alcohol is not a drug. Its just as bad as drugs though~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkymeet Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 (edited) By definition, it is a drug. It's also one of the more harmful drugs, worse than, say, LSD, MDMA/Ecstasy, or cannabis. It is one of the few drugs where the withdrawals are actually fatal. Not to mention all the dickheads who drink and drive. That's not to say it's something to avoid. I personally love it, and I do it (mostly) responsibly. But I understand it may not be for everyone. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Substance_abuse EDIT: Ew, I have Makalov. Edited May 28, 2011 by monkymeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK-201 Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Alcohol is not a drug. Its just as bad as drugs though~ Umm, yes it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 When I drink alcohol, I get drunk. Is there any better way of saying it than that, from someone who doesn't know much about the technical definition of drugs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celice Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Possibly. But I want some goddamn midori :( That shit's fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkymeet Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Ew, so sweet. Dry cocktails is where it's at! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Wild Turkey Honey Bourbon. It's da besssss (but not sure i am gonna drink any more alcohol, except for nutritional purposes) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erk Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 I'm a little late on this one, but let me just say; Yes, it's a drug, a drug abused just as much as any other drug, medicinal or otherwise. I usually tend to steer away from the brew, seeing as I come from a family of struggling alcoholics. I guess that's biased my opinion on the matter, but I'm not completely averse to it. Just cautious as shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celice Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 It doesn't hurt that all alcohol tastes like shit... for obvious reasons. Now frozen juice pops, mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliban of Sycorax Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 It doesn't hurt that all alcohol tastes like shit... for obvious reasons. Which is why I chase my shots or make mixed drinks~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 I'm a little late on this one, but let me just say; Yes, it's a drug, a drug abused just as much as any other drug, medicinal or otherwise. I usually tend to steer away from the brew, seeing as I come from a family of struggling alcoholics. I guess that's biased my opinion on the matter, but I'm not completely averse to it. Just cautious as shit. Good plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBrickingtonCrushworthy Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 By popular standard, it is not, but for medical and scientific standards, yes it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantsjizzer Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Alcohol - distends your stomach, addictive, lowers testosterone, fucks up your liver, ruins your life, shrinks your penis, gives you cancer, can overdose very easily and die Marijuana- releases endorphins, prevents cancer, non-addictive, can never OD on weed Alcohol, are you even trying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK-201 Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Alcohol - distends your stomach, addictive, lowers testosterone, fucks up your liver, ruins your life, shrinks your penis, gives you cancer, can overdose very easily and die Marijuana- releases endorphins, prevents cancer, non-addictive, can never OD on weed Alcohol, are you even trying? Sources? I'm highly skeptical of it preventing cancer, and being non-addictive to a certain degree. I've heard it more of being a placebo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkymeet Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Saying weed is non-addictive is not completely correct. Though not physically addicting, it has a fairly high psychological addiction. It has been proven to aid in certain types of cancers, but antioxidants in wine also have been proven to be healthy (in controlled quantities). Not to mention the whole "ruining your life" is only if you're an irresponsible idiot. Lots of people can drink alcohol with minimal side effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 (edited) Sources? I'm highly skeptical of it preventing cancer, and being non-addictive to a certain degree. I've heard it more of being a placebo. As a California medical cannabis patient, I'm in the position to tell you that that's false. Cannabis' medicinal qualities are very much legitimate for all the sleaziness of the industry built around the plant. It is not a panacea by any means, but it can help you with cancer, chronic pain, glaucoma, insomnia, migraines, arthritis and even eczema along with many more problems. But why hear it from me, when you have little reason to trust me? Instead I recommend following this link for hundreds of studies that back up what I said in my previous paragraph and expand on it. Saying weed is non-addictive is not completely correct. Though not physically addicting, it has a fairly high psychological addiction. It is 100% correct to say that cannabis is non-addictive in the context of a discussion about drugs. Sure, there's the potential for psychological addiction, but that also goes for everyday substances like caffeine, chocolate and sugar. Are "addicts" to those substances ruined by their "addiction"? I think that it's inappropriate to call a psychological addiction an unqualified addiction when actual serious, physical addiction exists with certain physically addictive substances. The two are incomparable and relating them misleads people and reinforces ignorance. There's a lot of ignorance about this subject, and vested interests in keeping it that way. Edited July 9, 2011 by Héroe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 As far as cannabis goes, I just want to weigh in with my personal opinion: the most addictive thing, and thing that pressured me mmost into doing it, was doing it with other people. Without that influence I think I can stay off, and I want to stay off unless we get to the point where it is legal and I don't think it will cloud my judegement in ways that interfere with my productivity in other areas. I don't think the idea of doing weed solo is particularly appealing to me. However I could see how people with significantly worse pain would feel differently. There's a lot of ignorance about this subject, and vested interests in keeping it that way. I would suggest that there is vested interests intereseted in legalizing it, and you yourself represent a portion of that. BUT I still do empathize with your position more strongly than that of the other. I am just hesitant because I really do think that "slippery slope" arguments have merit where drugs are concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau of Isaac Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Saying weed is non-addictive is not completely correct. Though not physically addicting, it has a fairly high psychological addiction. Anything and everything can be addicting psychologically. It is 100% correct to say that cannabis is non-addictive in the context of a discussion about drugs. Sure, there's the potential for psychological addiction, but that also goes for everyday substances like caffeine, chocolate and sugar. Are "addicts" to those substances ruined by their "addiction"? Caffeine, and subsequently chocolate, are physiologically addicting. Though I would suppose it would be rather difficult to get addicted to chocolate, there are individuals that genuinely function poorly without often intake of caffeine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 (edited) Caffeine, and subsequently chocolate, are physiologically addicting. Though I would suppose it would be rather difficult to get addicted to chocolate, there are individuals that genuinely function poorly without often intake of caffeine. I am definitely psychologically addicted to chocolate. I am not so sure about the physiological. Likely not. However, it is true that I've heard that those with ADD self-medicate with caffeine, usually unintentionally. "Functioning poorly" seems to suggest another form of physical addiction, since a lot of addictions will clear up if you go cold turkey long enough. I suppose it is to some extent the measuring of the extent of the physical addiction. ALSO FREQUENT NOT OFTEN, I think (grammar nazi coming to light) Edited July 9, 2011 by Loki Laufeyjarson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau of Isaac Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 I am definitely psychologically addicted to chocolate. I am not so sure about the physiological. Likely not. However, it is true that I've heard that those with ADD self-medicate with caffeine, usually unintentionally. "Functioning poorly" seems to suggest another form of physical addiction, since a lot of addictions will clear up if you go cold turkey long enough. I suppose it is to some extent the measuring of the extent of the physical addiction. ALSO FREQUENT NOT OFTEN, I think (grammar nazi coming to light) While I'm not well acquainted with what levels of caffeine make a noticeable addiction, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the amount that's in the average espresso millions drink every morning, there's probably enough to cause a real, physical dependence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 While I'm not well acquainted with what levels of caffeine make a noticeable addiction, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the amount that's in the average espresso millions drink every morning, there's probably enough to cause a real, physical dependence. I will not try and cut off your limb by doing research otherwise. I will say that I have heard, somewhat on topic, that my parents drink coffee to help them relax and go to sleep in the evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samthedigital Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Coffee is a drug, and I think it'd be hard to find proof otherwise. Either way, it doesn't matter why your parents drink coffee. Drugs and good health aren't mutually exclusive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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