Caliban of Sycorax Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Just because you don't understand them doesn't mean they're runes. That's like saying everyone who isn't Christian is a Pagan. Wait... //Buddhist Also, nominate Best/Worst Verbal Tic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maji Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 (edited) That's still major blood, dumbass. Oh right, dat Valkyrie; will edit~. Edited July 11, 2011 by Maji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious Sal Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 How are either of those legendary weapons., exactly? I already gave others ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jave Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Best: Narga Worst: Ehh... Gleipnir, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightBow Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 (edited) Best: Holsety Well, it's mercilessly overpowered, when given to Arthur it's available from the first chapter of the second generation, for a chunk of the first generation and available in Thracia 776. There is no real contest here. Worst: Sol Katti The twin of the Mani Katti, eh? With 11 MT and 14 WT to Lyn's 6 Con? Man, with her 16 years the poor Girl is gonna break her back. Thanks Athos, but I think I will stick with a Silver Sword. Edit: Btw, Athos called the Sol Katti the twin of the Mani Katti. The Mani Katti is described as the most famous sword of Sacea and was in a shrine where where people prayed to it. It was also described as sacred and only the swords chosen wielder can use it. Sounds pretty legendary to me and when the Sol Katti is it's twin the two should be pretty much equal. Edited July 11, 2011 by BrightBow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Best: Sword of Seals. Anything that makes Roy good is amazing. Honourable mention to Gradivus (1-2 range and full HP recovery?) and Holsety. Worst: Gleipnir or however the hell you spell it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Best: Holsety Worst: Gleipnir(I think) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biabarr Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Best: Mistoltin Worst: Gleipnir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Best: Holsety. Mistoltin comes to second. Worst: Glepnir. /shrugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirron Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Poor Gleipnir is going to lose. :( I don't get what's so bad about it. Then again, I always use Knoll, and find he manages to kick a hefty amount of butt with Gleipnir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ercdouken Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Best: Gradivus Worst: FE7!Durandal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 (edited) Poor Gleipnir is going to lose. :( I don't get what's so bad about it. Then again, I always use Knoll, and find he manages to kick a hefty amount of butt with Gleipnir. Ehh... Knoll is often considered one of the worst FE8 characters statwise. Same goes with Ewan. And the two of them are the only ones who can use it in the main game. On top of that, as powerful as it is, it's also very heavy. Using it reduces Knoll's AS by 12, and Ewan's AS by 13. Body Rings alone aren't gonna cover it. And it's a black sheep among Sacred Twin weapons because it lacks effectiveness against monsters. Edited July 13, 2011 by Elmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirron Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Eh, always found it plenty useful for me. But I'm more concerned with using characters I enjoy aesthetically or personality-wise than mechanically speaking. Same goes for weapons/spells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewjeo Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 (edited) See, the thing is it ISN'T very powerful. IIRC, it's the weakest against monsters. Too bad, too, because Knoll and Ewan wouldn't mind the extra punch. Not to mention it screws over their AS, which wasn't very good to begin with. Edited July 13, 2011 by Rewjeo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirron Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Honestly, what I like about it is the increased skill. But... again, it looks pretty, that's all I really need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 (edited) Honestly, what I like about it is the increased skill. Interesting that you'd say that, because Excalibur and Ivaldi both have +10 hit and +10/+5 crit, respectively, over Gleipnir, which is like having +5 skl and a bit more, but also give +5 to more useful stats. EDIT: Huh, guess I'm going soft. That didn't sound as mean as I wanted it to. Edited July 13, 2011 by dondon151 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Even IS hates Dark magic. That's kinda sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirron Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Increased skill relative to other Elder Magic tomes, not increased skill relative to other tomes as a whole. The majority of Elder Magic is highly inaccurate, which makes one with a good hit rating (even if poorer than it's Anima/Light counterparts, that's to be expected) a nice addition. And maybe it's just me. I'm someone people don't like being mean to. Because I'm huggy and try and be nice. :) And at least the increased skill means something compared to Balberith's increased strength. Love it, but that's a rather useless stat to boost. Not like he's liable to double most foes, so something that increases, say, damage (either by hitting harder or more accurately) would have been nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 (edited) Best: Holsety. Worst: FE9 Rexaura Edited July 13, 2011 by L.Lawliet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Increased skill relative to other Elder Magic tomes, not increased skill relative to other tomes as a whole. The majority of Elder Magic is highly inaccurate, which makes one with a good hit rating (even if poorer than it's Anima/Light counterparts, that's to be expected) a nice addition. And maybe it's just me. I'm someone people don't like being mean to. Because I'm huggy and try and be nice. :) And at least the increased skill means something compared to Balberith's increased strength. Love it, but that's a rather useless stat to boost. Not like he's liable to double most foes, so something that increases, say, damage (either by hitting harder or more accurately) would have been nice. I like the Strength boost. It means more AS, which means that much less chance of being doubled. . .not like Pelleas had godly Speed to begin with, but every little bit helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirron Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Eh, he has good enough Speed, but not enough to double (though the +3 Strength is negligible, since he's got a base 13 I believe (does, just went to check)). So... yeah, the strength bonus is pointless, since he's got enough that he only needs two points, and he'll get those points from promotion, assuming I remember promotion right for his class. So I'd much rather it go to something that'll actually have some impact. Seems more like it's meant for the other Dark Magic user, since it's moot for Pelleas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 I like the Strength boost. It means more AS, which means that much less chance of being doubled. . .not like Pelleas had godly Speed to begin with, but every little bit helps. Are you talking about Balberith's Str boost? Because after promotion Pelleas is guaranteed to have the Str to wield it without AS loss before factoring in the Str boost. It's completely useless for him. The only "use" it has is letting Lehran double Auras with it, but that means you have to bring Pelleas into the tower anyway, and it would've made much more sense to just give Lehran 14 Str and have Balberith boost something useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious Sal Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Increased skill relative to other Elder Magic tomes, not increased skill relative to other tomes as a whole. The majority of Elder Magic is highly inaccurate, which makes one with a good hit rating (even if poorer than it's Anima/Light counterparts, that's to be expected) a nice addition. And maybe it's just me. I'm someone people don't like being mean to. Because I'm huggy and try and be nice. :) And at least the increased skill means something compared to Balberith's increased strength. Love it, but that's a rather useless stat to boost. Not like he's liable to double most foes, so something that increases, say, damage (either by hitting harder or more accurately) would have been nice. Iirc, The + 3 STR gives Lehran the ability to double Aura's and Ashera, or was it pelleas? Because that damn tome weighs a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirron Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 No, Pelleas is good without the bonus strength. Lehran has the issues with weight, but he can always use a Light tome if need be. More likely to use one too, given the person without a tome is probably going to be healing, and Pelleas probably would be better on the offensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonOfSephiran Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Best: FE10 Alondite Worst: FE7 Durandal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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