Shadow Mir Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) As for me, I don't think Rouge is that good of a class and I don't think its worth making Colm one when you can make him combat worthy instead. I'll take the prepromoted Rouge for free. Even if Rennac came earlier as a thief and I had an Oceal Seal handy, I wouldn't make him a Rouge since its not worth a promotion item I think that way as well, only I consider the Assassin class inferior instead. Also, to put Colm's skill problem into perspective, 15/1 Colm has only 9 skill as an Assassin. That's... rather pitiful for a class that relies on Silencer. With regard to Rennac, I just consider 39 base avoid (assuming Rennac isn't weighed down) rather unimpressive for a thief-type character at that point in the game. Edited February 28, 2012 by Metal King Slime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Banzai Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Bad at combat, but an excellent utility unit, coming just in time for desert treasure. He's got about as good defenses as one could hope from a thief and he does well in CC because his somewhat mediocre res makes him good for dodging Stone, which is just about the only combat he should be seeing in Lagdou, ever. 7/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arvilino Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I cant agree with that either. Also, its like availability doesnt matter at all for all those who voted cormag>nessie Isn't that only if you give Vanessa the early statboosters though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted February 28, 2012 Author Share Posted February 28, 2012 (Yes, I know that availability isn't a factor in these Rate-the-Unit threads, but that doesn't mean that Cormag is better. Um, yes it is. I quite deliberately removed that rule when I took over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 hahaha CAN RECK He gets the chests in his join chapter, then digs up stuff in the desert, then is mayyyyybe fielded as a mobile torch in chapter 19. And that's it. 2/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I tried to bring Cormag's score down, but you guys with the RNG luck said otherwise. PFFFT! Rennac's offense isn't the greatest, but his combat is much improved with a Killing Edge. I've never found his Luck to be a problem, and he's got freakishly high RES, relatively speaking. I might field him in Chapter 18 Just Because I Hate Traps. 5.5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I tried to bring Cormag's score down, but you guys with the RNG luck said otherwise. PFFFT! Rennac's offense isn't the greatest, but his combat is much improved with a Killing Edge. I've never found his Luck to be a problem, and he's got freakishly high RES, relatively speaking. I might field him in Chapter 18 Just Because I Hate Traps. 5.5/10 Well, getting fried never feels good... But getting petrified on a flame tile? That HAS to suck. So I suppose you have a point there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narga_Rocks Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 The number of people who voted higher for Cormag than Vanessa say otherwise. : | But whatever, this is off-topic so I'll stop. Not off-topic. Integrity complained about Vanessa < Cormag in the first post. In my opinion, that makes talking about the two of them fair game for this topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I think that Cormag is better. It's not like Vanessa is wtfamazing in earlygame, whereas Cormag is pretty clearly beating her once he joins in Chapter 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Banzai Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I'd say Vanessa is overall better than Cormag, but she does join fairly weak, one has to admit that. If we were factoring in availability, which I don't, I'm not sure how Cormag could be better than Vanessa, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serene Flight Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Rennac eh? 6/10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excellen Browning Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I tried to bring Cormag's score down, but you guys with the RNG luck said otherwise. PFFFT! Rennac's offense isn't the greatest, but his combat is much improved with a Killing Edge. I've never found his Luck to be a problem, and he's got freakishly high RES, relatively speaking. I might field him in Chapter 18 Just Because I Hate Traps. 5.5/10 Wasn't made aware of the "from a whole game perspective" thing so I overrated him to counterbalance your underrating him. What an unfortunate coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Laufeyson Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Oh Rennac. That guy who keeps running away from L'Arachel only to fail. Miserably. Pros: Prepromote. Thief utility. Comes with that sweet, sweet Member Card. Cons: God help you if he ends up facing any combat. Can cost a pantload to recruit. Even when you go the freebie route, it can be tough. (Ephraim's route especially.) Bases kinda smell. This guy really sucks at anything other than thieving. (Whereas Colm can hold his own a bit as a Rogue) So really, this guy shouldnt be fighting anything. Thats not hard to accomplish. He nicks stuff and thats what he does best. 6/10 for his utility. Cuz i really like thief utility. 4/10 bias rating because i dont care for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrhesia Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 5/10. He's nice to have lying around, but if you remember the chest keys, then you won't miss his absence. Still, I personally prefer to take him, so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titamon Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 4.5/10 He can steal Callech's Hoplon Guard and grab the Warp staff in the same turn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 3/10 Desert items, replaced by keys mostly, can steal I guess? Is there anything left to steal that's noteworthy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Banzai Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 3/10 Desert items, replaced by keys mostly, can steal I guess? Is there anything left to steal that's noteworthy? Dracoshield in Ch 17, and I think there's an enemy with a Goddess Icon in 19. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewjeo Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I feel like Rennac is the only unit you would have who would want either of those boosters... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeCrush980 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Yeah, Dracoshields are shit. Who needs defense? Of course, as useless as they are, Rennac still gets full credit for getting them because there's no way we're promoting that god awful Colm when we could use the Ocean Seal on the almighty pirate Ross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 He does thieving stuff. Not much else to say. 5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexaura888 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Ugh, Rennac. Comes in way too late to be of much use. Doesn't help that he's a level 1 promote when everyone else you've been using should be much better than him. Can't dodge to save his life. Can't fight to save his life. By the time you get him Colm should be a much better Rogue. But, Colm aside, I'll give Rennac a 4/10, only because he doesn't need a lockpick and is helpful for unlocking those chests when you just don't have enough chest keys, saving you valuable space in your inventory and convoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Colm sux. Rennac sux as well but comes later. 2/10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliban of Sycorax Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 He's really not spectacular especially if Colm's promoted to Rogue. He costs money unless L'Arachel decided to go front lines, which is suicide. The Member Card's nice for more Physics to spam. His combat doesn't suck, at the worst. 5.25/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 It's possible to keep L'Arachel out of danger and recruit him on both routes. . .it's much easier to do this in Jehanna, though. In Grado, he makes a nice Berserk magnet (since I have everyone relevant under the influence of Pure Water/Barrier). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 okie-dokie, 4/10 from me (CAN RECK) and we're moving along Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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