Esaka Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 WTF PWNAGE! When I compared Rutger to any other Navvare, I came to the conclusion Rutger is the best because he has to fight the best. He's Shiva in a game where Shiva is far and few. 9.5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALEXANDER Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Easily a 10/10 good availability VERY GOOD supports good enough durability VERY GOOD at killing things but lack of good 1-2 range sword locked (typical swordmaster problems) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliban of Sycorax Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Best foot unit in the game, +30 crit on promotion, supports one of the best mounted units in the game, and HM bonuses. And that's all before personal bias. 10/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethereal Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Probably the best foot unit in the series. Gets ferried around wherever just because he kills shit so easily, and is so necessary to kill the tough enemies. 10/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culpa Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Best boss killer. Has enough speed to double almost anything, enough skill to actually hit a boss on a throne, durable enough, decent str. Honestly his only problems are he hits defense like most the cast, no 1-2 range that doesn't suck, sword lock but you need the accuracy, and no mount. So ya he is arguably the best unit in the game, his only competition comes so much later then him that its hard to compare. 10/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNG Princess Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 I don't like that he lacks 2 range but thats about it, he's great everywhere else 9/10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Stupidly powerful with certain supports and HM bonuses, gets +1 from me for being a boss. Misses 1-2 range and a horse, though. 9.5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biabarr Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Rutger is so good that not having a horse doesn't even hurt him.Because FE6 bosses suck dick and Rutger makes them suck significantly less dick with his super critical powers and the ability to, you know, actually hit those fuckers.30%str hurts, but he has a fucking base of NINE (most of the time). You know who else has a base of NINE? MARCUS. This is a man who can be used for a good portion of the game without any growths, so having them at all just makes him BETTER. He's got low luck, but he has no competition for the goddess icons because he makes the best use of them. So unless you're selling them for MORE BOOTS they're his. And you can still tack on a Clarine (and a Dieck if you are willing to slow down a bit) for CEv supports. And enemies can't crit Rutger when they're DEAD.And his durability isn't even shit. It's not holyfuckamazing tank, but he's got pretty high HP and okayish defense and he's not dying in two hits like some other people.And his availability starts in CHAPTER FUCKING FOUR.So 10/10 (+bias because he's a sexy motherfucker but that doesn't fit unless you want to count this 11/10)Because fuck yeah. This said practically everything I had to say, so count it as my vote too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 fe6 SM crit. Promo gains. Dem bases. Growths are decent. Best foot unit next to Dieck. Henning, Monke and Gel cry when he comes. When you have the best PP offense ever, it sorta makes up for meh EP. 10/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eail Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 One of the best (if not the best) units in this game. Amazing boss killer and an INSANE crit chance given the proper supports and a KE 10/10 easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venusaur Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 He makes an excellent boss-killer with that crit and supports, but has a swordlock and no mount. And, he refused to gain a single point of Strength on my first playthrough, so -1 bias for that. 9/10 normally, but 8/10 with bias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Ostrich Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I don't have much of value to add. Everyone knows why Rutger is amazing. I don't plan to give a perfect score, and it's only because he's sword locked lategame. He's he only melee unit I use aside from Miledy who cannot use axes, and the only one period who's forced into constant wtd against lategame wyverns. The rest of my team typically consists of Alan, Lance, Garret, Gonzales, Percival, sometimes Geese (I know he's really bad), sometimes Noah, usually Echidna. I don't claim to be a paragon for speed and efficiency but I do pretty darn well. And as other people have noted, Rutger is the best boss killer there is. Most of the time his overkill hit goes to waste but several bosses very nearly need it. I love Gonzales but that man is never killing bosses and when we get around to him, that will be reflected in his score. 9.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMCC4728 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Rutger is so good that not having a horse doesn't even hurt him. Because FE6 bosses suck dick and Rutger makes them suck significantly less dick with his super critical powers and the ability to, you know, actually hit those fuckers. 30%str hurts, but he has a fucking base of NINE (most of the time). You know who else has a base of NINE? MARCUS. This is a man who can be used for a good portion of the game without any growths, so having them at all just makes him BETTER. He's got low luck, but he has no competition for the goddess icons because he makes the best use of them. So unless you're selling them for MORE BOOTS they're his. And you can still tack on a Clarine (and a Dieck if you are willing to slow down a bit) for CEv supports. And enemies can't crit Rutger when they're DEAD. And his durability isn't even shit. It's not holyfuckamazing tank, but he's got pretty high HP and okayish defense and he's not dying in two hits like some other people. And his availability starts in CHAPTER FUCKING FOUR. So 10/10 (+bias because he's a sexy motherfucker but that doesn't fit unless you want to count this 11/10) Because fuck yeah. ^this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Best foot unit next to Dieck.whatDieck really can't compete with rutger at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Best foot unit next to Dieck. That's implying Dieck even can compete with Rutger... which he can't really do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 (edited) I find it when you're Rutger, you don't even care about WTD. Who cares about lances when they're dead? Enemy accuracy is terrible and by that I mean he sometimes faces 20-30% WITH WTD, and while it's not impossible that he gets hit, the chances are small enough that not enough are gonna hit to kill. And it's not like you can't take Silver Card and buy him a bullshitton of Killing Edges and watch him have ~70 crit before supports on everything aka Rutger murders the map and doesn't give a fuck. Edited March 19, 2012 by Luminescent Blade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kngt_Of_Titania Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 9.5/10 It has already been stated way too many times why he's invaluable, but I am going to dock half a point for not having a mount; he's near perfect otherwise -- I can't even mind 30% STR growth with a decent STR promo bonus and 9 base and an early hero crest...also, lol at WTD when you double everything and ORKO almost everything with a killer edge and obscene crit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 That's implying Dieck even can compete with Rutger... which he can't really do. hi echo how are you fancy meeting you here how's the wife? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 9.5/10, loses 0.5 for his slow support growths with Dieck and Clarine. He's still great without them, but things could have been better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 what Dieck really can't compete with rutger at all Still, Diecks not a bad option either, but Rutger would be best for those damn bosses. Dieck has 1-2 range, Rutger has OP'd PP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Still, Diecks not a bad option either, but Rutger would be best for those damn bosses. Dieck has 1-2 range, Rutger has OP'd PP You're right about Dieck having 1-2 range, but hand axes have godawful accuracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 You're right about Dieck having 1-2 range, but hand axes have godawful accuracy. He's got like 11 skill base and promo gains are like +4 skill. and then theres the fact that early promoted Dieck can be dropped over in ch 11 echidna route with hand axes to clear out the area. Still, I'd say Rutger wins through his Bosskilling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Dieck has 1-2 range No that's not even the important part. The thing that makes Dieck so much worse than Rutger is that he can't double much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renall Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 If he had a horse he would effectively have no flaws. As it is, he's a foot unit people seriously call best in game and best in series. And they are right; Rutger has one role - kill otherwise hardened targets utterly dead - and every possible tool in his kit to make it happen. On HM you'd sweat without him; with him, no sweat. And he joins in chapter goddamn 4. 4! 9.9/10. I can overlook his flaws because he is the best there is at what he does, but the flaws exist. They just barely matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 (not directed at anyone, just random musing) I feel Rutger actually would not be improved by being in one of the preexisting mounted classes. His entire selling point is being super epic critcal man of bosskilling, and his bosskilling value would drop significantly if he lost that 30% crit that makes up for his mediocre strength growths. So unless there's a secret 30 crit mounted class with 29skl/30spd, whereas many other units could be improved by being stuck into a mounted class instead, SM is pretty much the optimal class for him to be in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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