Percivalé Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 yeah but saying "this wagon is fucking retarded" doesn't necessarily have to be an attempt to guilt trip people you're putting people down for starting the wagon which makes people feel bad about it and doubt it. and it's not an actual defense, either. "this wagon is fucking retarded because <insert actual reasons here>" is a defense, except I would rather 'retarded' be left out of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 lmao i'm sorry, i hope i don't sound angry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 (edited) i see townies use appeal to emotion more than i see scum use it. people equate emotion with townieness and emotional players tend to get free town passes for no reason (you're arguably even an example of this, i can think of better examples but they don't play here) i actually play up emotion / paranoia as scum because of this (something blitz probably caught onto before i TURBOLYNCHED HIM) only now i'm stopping because i'm not actually that emotional as town so it's kinda stupid it's likely i'm just speaking based on meta from other sites that isn't actually relevant or accurate here though. i dunno ALSO "this wagon is fucking retarded because <insert reasons here>" was pretty much what i did whenever people were wagoning me this game so yeah, if i discluded reasons it was because i had recently stated them Edited July 1, 2012 by Prims Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 I don't mean to be emotional and I'm actually trying to tone down on it because I know it can be irritating but it's really hard I don't intentionally try to use it as mafia though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 (edited) also I see mafia use AtE way more often than townies but we both play at different places so I guess that's pretty variable Edited July 1, 2012 by adiosToreador Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 basically i'm mad at myself because whenever i get legitimately suspicious of something/someone i second-guess myself and waffle a lot so i'm just saying i'm not doing that in future games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted July 1, 2012 Author Share Posted July 1, 2012 (edited) Bad logic (such as appeal to emotion fallacy) isn't a scum or towntell because townies aren't perfect logic robots. However this can be a difficult thing to tell because it's hard to tell if it's a legitimate mistake or if the person knows it's shit and is trying to pull the wool over people's eyes edit: also I really like the word tell Edited July 1, 2012 by Paperblade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Even though I wasn't playing I thought Prims was scum trying to control the game. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naglfar Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Bad logic (such as appeal to emotion fallacy) isn't a scum or towntell because townies aren't perfect logic robots. However this can be a difficult thing to tell because it's hard to tell if it's a legitimate mistake or if the person knows it's shit and is trying to pull the wool over people's eyes this is where we must use common sense and is one of the situations in which meta is helpful (is the person spouting this rancid bullshit Type Psych or Type Prims? (sorry psych)) edit: also I really like the word tell I know, I feel smart when I say it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 can we stop lynching prims Out of all the posts in this game, this one bothered me the most :/ Made me feel like I was being out of hand with my thoughts on Prims. It was so darn influential, that I really started second guessing myself. It didn't last long (and honestly, I wasn't convincing anyone of a Prims lynch anyway), but still. No offense meant bizz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 the game was really hilarious to watch as an IO this is the scummiest post (after the crazy Prims action) You always say this and I never know what you're talking about. TBH, I don't really remember Strawman's posts D1. However, IIRC, he was the only player other than Bizz who never at any time realy had suspicion against them. And if they weren't going for a namekill or for people against whom they might be able to push a mislynch, Strawman was basically the ideal target. Plus, since he didn't have many interactions with anyone, his flip gives us little information. I think the Blitz flip is much more interesting to talk about. the parts in italics are mainly why I found it funny, he is the doc and he says Straw was the ideal maf kill, seriously, how can you say that when you ARE the doc? and secondly, you got me lynched, why do you wanna talk about my alignment and bring that up? and Blitz is bad at articulating why he thinks people are scummy (which is something he needs to work on) I will try to put some effort on this the next game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Clearly, to make people think I WASN'T the Doc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Clearly, to make people think I WASN'T the Doc. well, if I were around, you would have had a question asking if you were the doc because you soft claimed doc quite a few times D1 and then deal with my vote on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Did I? I can't actually remember any places where I breadcrumbed Doc. And if I did, it definitely wasn't intentionally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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