Blitz Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 actually Shinori is the other biggest suspect at the moment besides me, or was till the day started Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriemhild Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I completely expected the victim to be killed in Fountain of Dreams, though I thought it'd be Clipsey!, not Subieko. Also, if Shinori+I eat tables are both scum (which is what I really think right now), then I eat tables can fake a correct Tracker report no matter what. Still, though, I wanna hear what he says before lynching either of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Why are people voting me? I only woke up just now v.v You track Shinori and find out that he visited eclipse and Subieko. So... uh... I don't know if he claimed something that visits two people, but that sounds pretty scummy to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Hmmmmmmmmmmm Interesting. This report implies that Shinori visited the kill target. But Subi couldn't use her role last night because of Straw's ability, so why would Shinori visit Subi? Clipsey I could understand, but Subi? ##Unvote Not quite sure what to think of this. I'll have to sleep on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 And that proves it. ##Vote: Table. You done bullshitted yo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Since I know he's bullshitting I feel like I should bring this forward again. Role cop Back up cop Watcher than can be a tracker as well and a tracker? Really? I'm not saying anything else yet because I want to see what eclipse says. But look at it this way, if I was scum and I was the killer, why the fuck would I kill subi of all people when eclipse would obviously be a bigger threat? And why in gods name would I do that when the supposed tracker would be 100% tracking me. Anyone got an answer to these questions? Easy answer. I wouldn't and you all know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Kaoz, on 02 July 2012 - 03:14 AM, said: Dear Shinori, You are Shadow. Shadow The Hedgehog is a black hedgehog who resembles Sonic. He was created by Dr. Eggman's grandfather, Gerald Robotnik, to be the ultimate life-form. Not only does he look like Sonic, but he has equal abilities. He has great skill with the space-time warping technique called Chaos Control. To reach his goals, he'll use any means necessary. During the night, you may reply to your Role PM with "Chaos Control USER1 and USER2". This will cause USER1's action to be redirected to USER2, regardless of it's original target. Your abilities have been kind of unstable lately though, so a change in surroundings may cause the chaotic energy to run wild. You are allied with the Town. You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated. Skitty, this is Shinori's role. He redirected Eclipse action to target Subi regardless of her choice, according to your results. Interesting...this shows that Eclipse couldv'e been responsible for killing Subi. And yet she said she wanted to target Shinori during the night phase to clear things up. ##Unvote Sensible choice would be Eclipse or Skitty. Hmmmm..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 ##Vote Tables yeah this isn't good for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Well okay, he can target two people regardless, but the fact he thinks I'm lying pretty much cements my choice. ##Vote: Shinori. Also nice WIFOM there Shinori. Having a claim that can target two people, then one of those people being the kill target... did you really think such a weak defence wouldn't get seen right through? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Actually....Eclipse, who is your OC on right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 If I redirected eclipse to subi that means she would have no convo open. If I redirected subi to eclipse Eclipse would still have a convo open with whomever she chose to open it with. However neither of these is what happened. Which proves that Tables is lieing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Seriously if you have to think of it from my point of view. If I was scum, and if I was town. And what the fuck I would be thinking in both situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 If I was fucking scum I wouldn't have chosen to come here to kill one of two targets and have a tracker 100% on me, or kill a tracker and have everyone else bitch at me. Frankly if I was scum I would have gone to prim's stage and shut him in the face. Think about it, if I WANTED TO BE KILL ANY ONE PERSON AND BE CAUGHT IN THE ACT WHY WOULD I PICK SUBI? Because if I was the killer then killing on this stage is completely stupid and pointless, unless I killed either tables or eclipse, still pointless when I could have gone to prim's stage and killed the doctor and then been guaranteed as scum. Seriously. THINK. Now think of it from tables perspective if he was scum, he is on this stage and everyone thinks I'm scummy, now tables kills off SUBI for whatever reason and then he tries to play it off like I'm scum. Which already has people set off and confused. For example manix post # 1694 and #1704. Who has more incentive to kill on this stage as scum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 If you were scum, it's a sensible move. You can kill while still seeming innocent. If you were town, then you wouldn't have flipped at your night action being revealed. Unless you really didn't want people knowing what you were doing, which is... not likely. But I'm not arguing with you. I know you're scum already, from your reaction. It's everyone else I need to convince. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Considering I was offering to out what happened last night your point is flawed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 No, not really. WIFOM. Or, put it this way: Would I really investigate and fake a report on someone who was happy to be investigated? It's pretty much exactly the same argument you're using. Except I'm the one whose been suspicious (for, uh... reasons?), so me doing it actually makes me look more suspicious than you. And you're not stupid. I think you knew that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 You look more suspicious than me? I've been at threat of being lynched for two days in a row. You haven't had a wagon on you since like....day 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 More like 4 days, not 2 days in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I'd like to bring another thing to peoples eyes, why is the scum team perfectly willing to go 1 for 1 in this scenario? Wether it was me or tables if you think about it If i get lynched and flip town then you lynch tables for his scum. If I was scum, which I'm not, and you lynched tables and he somehow flipped town you would just lynch me right after. Why the heck would mafia at the moment be perfectly willing to go 1 for 1 in this situation. People really need to think of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Everyone who claimed one of the Pokemon Trainer trio has posted at this point. Were you guys informed of any changes at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Everyone who claimed one of the Pokemon Trainer trio has posted at this point. Were you guys informed of any changes at all? I'm going to say this since Proto hasn't been on and Blitz is actively trying to be scummy. Blitz is confirmed town to me and Proto. We've joined together in a Mason group as Pokemon Trainer. I'm pretty sure we're all one role now. Dear Cap'n Flint, Psych and Luster Purge, You are Pokémon Trainer. A person who raises Pokémon and trains them as partners in battle. In battle, a Trainer gives orders to the Pokémon and uses items. It's not an exaggeration to say battles can be won or lost on a Trainer's single strategic move. Trainers pour their hearts into their Pokémon and share anger, sadness, and joy as they adventure in hopes of becoming Pokémon Masters. You caught Venusaur, Charizard and Blastoise. Now you're ready to join the fight. <SNIP> You are allied with the Town. You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated. This is as much as I'm willing to roleclaim. It's enough to show that we have a shared role PM, which means a) we're all Town, b) we have private communication, which should be all that they need for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Woah, that's a really neat role o.O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriemhild Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 So... uh... I don't know if he claimed something that visits two people, but that sounds pretty scummy to me. Acting dumb now? [spoiler=Early posts] So uh I just subbed in and have zero idea what's going on and stuff. Is there anything we especially know, like, any claims? And confirms? Who the mafia are (character wise)? What's the stage strategy? I see we've lynched the SK already, that's good. And we no lynched yesterday? That's bad. It's night 2 right so... okay. Also my play style is almost certain to start clashing with uh probably everyone. High activity, lots of deductions based on posts and not roles... although this game looks pretty active. I'm going to reread everything, or try to. But a nice general overview would be nice. Roles claimed: Eclipse- Networker Proto- Evolving Vanillager (Evolves from Visitation) Psych- Evolving Vanillager (Evolves from Sun) Marth- Evolving Vanillager (Has Evolved) Straw- Role Booster (confirmed by Subi being able to send two people to different stages) Shinori- Redirector Pink Tables- Tracker Bananas: Watcher Subi: Stage Redirector (changes what stage people go to, day role, confirmed to exist, and no one has cc'd subi so) Iris: Role swapper (swaps two people's roles for the next night) Dead: Kay: Role cop (Lynched D1) Nags: SK (killed by the maf N1, thanks maf) Stages: Basically so far it's been kinda random who goes where. Some people announce, others don't. The pokemon seem to have specific reasons for going to certain stages (Proto wants to go to lots of stages, psych wants to stay in the sun, so on one specific stage it seems), but beyond that, we've just been going wherever it seems. Beyond that, we don't really know who the mafia roles might be. It seems like there's a wide variety of where the roles coming from (either playable characters, or from pokeballs, or tropheys, etc.) so we can't really tell if someone is mafia by the claim right now. Once we lynch a mafia, we might be able to see a little bit better from there, but as of right now it's unknown. The no lynch was... chaos. I was not around for it, but just reading it can give you some insight into that. Quite a few people are unhappy with it, and it will probably be discussed at longer lengths D3. Beyond that, activity is good! As proven by the 60 pages we have right now, people are talking and so having you replace Impy, who wasn't talking a ton, is good. We'll get to see more from you and hopefully figure some stuff out that way. Welcome to the game! (If I missed anything, just let me know) Ugh, I've claimed? That sucks. Why haven't we lynched mafia if I've claimed? Surely Tracker would only claim if he had a guilty. Although I guess everyone has claimed already for some bizarre reason? These three posts were consecutive. No one posted between them. Which means I eat tables asked for stuff, scorri answered, and I eat tables responded to that, implying that I eat tables actually read scorri's posts, unlike the rapid skimming of the posts before he subbed in. Also, when skimming through posts, it's quite hard to miss Shinori's claim, since it's been brought up many times, and he even once spoilered it five times in a single post iirc. If I redirected eclipse to subi that means she would have no convo open. If I redirected subi to eclipse Eclipse would still have a convo open with whomever she chose to open it with. However neither of these is what happened. Which proves that Tables is lieing. So Shinori, you did not redirect either Subieko or Clipsey! to each other? Can you now tell us who you redirected and where? If you were scum, it's a sensible move. You can kill while still seeming innocent. If you were town, then you wouldn't have flipped at your night action being revealed. Unless you really didn't want people knowing what you were doing, which is... not likely. But I'm not arguing with you. I know you're scum already, from your reaction. It's everyone else I need to convince. One thing that's for sure, one of I eat tables/Shinori is scum. I eat tables looks way scummier. I still think that BOTH of them are scum, and that the reason why they fired at Fountain instead of wherever-the-final-scum-is-hiding is because they would have likely exposed one of the Mafia anyways, and decided to try clearing Shinori by letting I eat tables take the fall while shooting Subieko. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriemhild Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I'm going to say this since Proto hasn't been on and Blitz is actively trying to be scummy. Blitz is confirmed town to me and Proto. We've joined together in a Mason group as Pokemon Trainer. I'm pretty sure we're all one role now. Psych, did you miss Blitzy's message about waiting for one more day? This is as much as I'm willing to roleclaim. It's enough to show that we have a shared role PM, which means a) we're all Town, b) we have private communication, which should be all that they need for now. If you're going to copy/paste my words, you should at least change the "they" to "you". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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