Brendor Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) lol *gets chair and popcorn in preparation of internet shitstorm* Edited December 11, 2014 by Brendor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RennacIsUnderrated Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Sorry but I'm not in the business of getting harassed about something unintentional and petty by this internet bad ass over here when I was trying to be polite and resourceful multiple times. I'm new to the forums sorry I'm not an expert on everything and don't know the exact state of his hack. I made an account for the sole purpose of asking questions about the hack that I was curious about, hopefully inputting good discussion on the topic and learning all I could, I've followed all of his works for years and I idolized his talent with making good hacks based on my favorite childhood game but this totally crushed my image of him. Would it kill him to be nice to a fan with some questions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HF Makalov Fanboy Kai Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 dude i'm lucky i'm even seeing this hack in my life time, let alone maybe soon. please take this to another thread, you do realize if this gets delayed any longer and its your fault, hell even if it isn't your fault, your gonna get hounded by members of the forum. just please stop, think of the children, stop before a mod or admin gets in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryhard Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) lol *gets chair and popcorn in preparation of internet shitstorm* let's not for once Sorry but I'm not in the business of getting harassed about something unintentional and petty by this internet bad ass over here when I was trying to be polite and resourceful multiple times. I'm new to the forums sorry I'm not an expert on everything and don't know the exact state of his hack. I made an account for the sole purpose of asking questions about the hack that I was curious about, hopefully inputting good discussion on the topic and learning all I could, I've followed all of his works for years and I idolized his talent with making good hacks based on my favorite childhood game but this totally crushed my image of him. Would it kill him to be nice to a fan with some questions? Just drop it, dude. I don't think anyone has been harassing you and Arch while what he said you might see it as harsh is not without merit. Edited December 11, 2014 by Tryhard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RennacIsUnderrated Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) It was unnecessary that's my only point. Edited December 11, 2014 by RennacIsUnderrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 It was unnecessary that's my only point. No, your embarrassing meltdown was unnecessary. Arch tactfully addressed the issue of creating a spin-off game using his coded EN hack which you clearly interpreted in the wrong manner. I suggest you go back and read it again, he is not attacking you. Stop playing victim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendor Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Just drop it, dude. just please stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RennacIsUnderrated Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Yeah, I dropped it, it's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Posted December 11, 2014 Author Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) Nah, it's not really all that good. I was literally just stating my position on what you were proposing, and not with a hint of anger. I even basically said you could do it, just that I wouldn't personally help or support a direct derivative of the EN ROM being released, and you turn around and call me an asshole for it. You state that you've been following the hack for a year and love it, and that ruined your image of me? Really? Like, why would you talk about that stuff in the topic if you didn't want my response? Yet that was just me being an unnecessary "internet badass" because it wasn't the response you wanted. If anything you should be honored that people want to make spin offs of your work.i.e. You should be honored that people want to piggyback off of your time and effort to save themselves time and effort. I have no issue with spin offs, as was previously stated. Just reference the event source and build something that's your own instead of reskinning Elibian Nights into Magvel Nights (which you mentioned considering). The reason I emphasize the value of hard work and due process is because EN went through a lot of drafts; quality comes from trial, error, and discovery. Just taking the EN ROM and reskinning it betrays that process, and I don't really like the idea of <Continent> Nights dollar store knock off brands (at least find some other titular literary reference, that's all I really ask), where people just slap in some chapters in another world and call it a new game. Nobody finishes that sort of project and keeps it to themselves; if there's gonna be spin-offs, I just want them to be well-presented and solidly designed. These projects take time and development. Hell, by going through that process you could come up with new approaches and push EN's concepts even further, make something that blows the original project out of the water. That'd be awesome, that'd be the kind of spin-off I'd love to see. Edited December 11, 2014 by Arch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klokinator Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 >Arch puts almost ten years of time into the community making projects and tools, all for free, often even spending his own money>Guy wants to copy his hack and make an uninspired spinoff>Arch says he won't support it but do what you want>Guy calls arch a selfish asshole is this seriously the tldr because wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiseki Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 >Arch puts almost ten years of time into the community making projects and tools, all for free, often even spending his own money >Guy wants to copy his hack and make an uninspired spinoff >Arch says he won't support it but do what you want >Guy calls arch a selfish asshole is this seriously the tldr because wow Pretty much. It's a shame things like this still happen now, isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Posted December 11, 2014 Author Share Posted December 11, 2014 It's all kinda silly, isn't it? Anyways, it's now got me distracted with a framing narrative for Magvel Knights. If it's gonna be done, it's gonna be done right. Call it the MM to EN's OoT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterMcdanil Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 So much Magvel knights hype. I know you're not there yet..... (if we go by MM 3D 6 MORE YEARS XD ) but I really like the background on Knoll. It gives a relatively unknown character some story while also framing other tales in a way much more magical than Elibian nights. :D love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Posted December 11, 2014 Author Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) The idea is kind of like a mystery novel with an emphasis on collection. In lieu of a traditional sequel, in which you'd follow a protagonist through saving the world through some apocalypse scenario, Knoll sees the major events unfold around the characters. Is there some sort of protagonistic force that can save the world fighting out there? That's open to interpretation based solely on what you'd see happen. I dunno, I like discovery and collection elements. Could be really engaging with this narrative. Edited December 11, 2014 by Arch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fateborn Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Give Ephraim Karel treatment. Lone wolf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott99 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 The idea is kind of like a mystery novel with an emphasis on collection. In lieu of a traditional sequel, in which you'd follow a protagonist through saving the world through some apocalypse scenario, Knoll sees the major events unfold around the characters. Is there some sort of protagonistic force that can save the world fighting out there? That's open to interpretation based solely on what you'd see happen. I dunno, I like discovery and collection elements. Could be really engaging with this narrative. Only one protagonist can save the world and that protagonist is...forever level 1 Amelia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninian Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) ~It's an Elibian night.~ To be honest, anything that stars Cormag and Knoll has me set, although CormagXTana is the sweetest pairing in the game. Edited December 11, 2014 by Ninian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kao Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 That Magvel sequel. It seems like a great concept. the power imbued within the book sends Knoll knoll into a temporary vegetative state, Hehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RennacIsUnderrated Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 That Magvel sequel. It seems like a great concept. Hehe. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendor Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 you can't make a legit FE8 hack without using the skill patch just sayin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Posted December 11, 2014 Author Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) thanksSorry bruh, he ain't talkin' about your idea. It was more of an exercise, really, just to spend a few hours and come up with a framing device and concept. You're free to take inspiration, though. Edited December 11, 2014 by Arch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maruhai Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 thanks ROFL can you please stop trying to be the center of attention here This thread would be so much better without your posts, no offense but no one cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RennacIsUnderrated Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) ROFL can you please stop trying to be the center of attention here This thread would be so much better without your posts, no offense but no one cares lol I thought he was talking about my magvel nights idea, it was my bad calm down. I didnt see archs earlier post about it. Its not like you're contributingSorry bruh, he ain't talkin' about your idea. It was more of an exercise, really, just to spend a few hours and come up with a framing device and concept. You're free to take inspiration, though.It's really good, I gotta ask though, why does it say "caellach"? Isnt he dead? Also doesnt the apocalyptic event occur during fe8? Thanks, if you need or want help I'm in. I'd love to get a quality fe8 hack out. Edited December 12, 2014 by Red Fox of Fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterMcdanil Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Uh... there are some? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RennacIsUnderrated Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Uh... there are some? Really I havent been able to find any, could you name some? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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