Xtremekiwi Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 That's actually odd because I managed to beat him without a single unit dying. Oh, I see. Arch didn't code in a way for you to actually win by anything other then a TPK (Total Party Kill). Basically either you have to have the entire party die off or you can't properly complete Raven's tale at the moment. As I mentioned, would be nice to see Arch add a special achievement/cutscene for actually beating Arcard and seizing the gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott99 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Oh, I see. Arch didn't code in a way for you to actually win by anything other then a TPK (Total Party Kill). Basically either you have to have the entire party die off or you can't properly complete Raven's tale at the moment. As I mentioned, would be nice to see Arch add a special achievement/cutscene for actually beating Arcard and seizing the gate. So what your saying is I glitched my game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RennacIsUnderrated Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Well at least Heath and Geitz can survive. I really hope Raven gets the choice to survive at some point though. Granted I think it should be extremely difficult but the choice would be awesome. But who knows maybe "his sacrifice" is Shen dying for Raven? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siuloir Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Pretty sure the point is for Raven to die. The Tale loses pretty much all of its impact if he survives - Not all endings are happy ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HF Makalov Fanboy Kai Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 (edited) Pretty sure the point is for Raven to die. The Tale loses pretty much all of its impact if he survives - Not all endings are happy ones. if thats the case, then maybe it should be easier for raven to get killed in that part? i'm just basing this off of what i've heard, i wanna save playing the hack until its done Edited December 3, 2014 by HF Makalov Fanboy Kai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 (edited) i think in the next patch arcard is literally invincible anyway (killing blows are forced to miss him) Edited December 3, 2014 by CT075 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book of Ereshkigal Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Yay FE5 things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 ooooh prayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RennacIsUnderrated Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 (edited) I know he's supposed to die and he can in the main ending but options never hurt. Yeah making Arcard invincible would make more sense considering he's so easy to kill. Edited December 3, 2014 by RennacIsUnderrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott99 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 (edited) Why can conversation have to be started by a specific person? Shouldn't both of them be able to start it? Edited December 3, 2014 by scott99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RennacIsUnderrated Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Why can conversation have to be started by a specific person? Shouldn't both of them be able to start it? Yeah like I'm pretty sure Heath can start a convo with priscilla but she cant start one with him, it's a little odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterMcdanil Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Nah, most of the game's convos are like that. I mean, if you actually think about it from a realistic perspective, it makes more sense. Would Priscilla start a convo with Heath if he was the one talking first? Nahhhhhh. That'd be weird. Just walking up to somebody and waiting for them to talk first. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RennacIsUnderrated Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Really? Huh I never noticed that in the vanilla game, I thought either person could start it. My mind is forever changed. But yeah I agree it makes perfect sense I just thought the original did it differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 FE7 did it differently but EN chose to make it one sided Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RennacIsUnderrated Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Hmm so why exactly is Zealot being called Jerrot now? Did he change his name to zealot later on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book of Ereshkigal Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 It was changed because Zealot was a bad translation. (Gringe uses it in his new translation patch as well) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninian Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 The name Zealot only works for Oro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Light Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Maybe Raven surviving and winning that battle could be the "creative liberties" for that Tale? That way it's not canon (well, to this little sidestory which itself is not canon), but people who just want the emotional satisfaction of seeing that happen can do so without having to edit the game themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtremekiwi Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Maybe Raven surviving and winning that battle could be the "creative liberties" for that Tale? That way it's not canon (well, to this little sidestory which itself is not canon), but people who just want the emotional satisfaction of seeing that happen can do so without having to edit the game themselves. How would you justify Raven surviving? I'd imagine that Arcard would basically say "Screw you, at least the one who figured me out will be executed" to Erk if that's what you're thinking. Everyone else yes, but even for Creative Liberties I can't really imagine a scenario that Raven could escape from with his life. And if he did, would he feel satisfied? I don't think this would work. I'm so not used to typing from a laptop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RennacIsUnderrated Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 (edited) Erk can stop arcard from killing raven for the same reason he stopped him from killing priscilla. Killing priscilla the adopted daughter of a noble family was bad publicity and killing her brother could exact the same outcome, politically it would be a bad move. But yeah a creative liberties where Raven is invincible and he kills the entire army would be swank. Wait no scratch that, we need Raven to "hulk out" into the demon king, THEN kill everyone. Edited December 8, 2014 by RennacIsUnderrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMT4ever Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 But yeah a creative liberties where Raven is invincible and he kills the entire army would be swank. Wait no scratch that, we need Raven to "hulk out" into the demon king, THEN kill everyone. What we need is for Lucius to get killed by a random ballista bolt (because the prince thought he was too girly), causing Raven to go into rage mode and butcher all of the Etrurians. Everyone else can just sit back and watch the murder-fest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Posted December 8, 2014 Author Share Posted December 8, 2014 Or Raven can die because that's how the story's supposed to end and I'll just make the optional second part actually impossible to overcome (which was always the intent). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtremekiwi Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Or Raven can die because that's how the story's supposed to end and I'll just make the optional second part actually impossible to overcome (which was always the intent). They were referring to having those variants be a creative liberty. Obviously the canonical ending in this game would be Raven biting the bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Red Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 just hack the game and make your own creative liberties people have hacked the hacks before, and it's not really any morally worse than hacking the original games, so people can't really bitch about it and expect people to take them seriously (thieves stealing from other thieves is a beautiful thing) plus I'm sure Arch would be flattered to see his fans giving the game alternate character endings he didn't intend, kappa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book of Ereshkigal Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 They were referring to having those variants be a creative liberty. Obviously the canonical ending in this game would be Raven biting the bullet. Pretty sure arch decided against doing creative liberties because reasons, but I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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