Sham Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Well I'm here finally. I don't really have any definite suspects yet, but I'd say Illusio or McDwarf would be at top of my list. I'll wait to cast a vote later in the day however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Oh. And that post was simply an echo with no explanation behind both of the suspicions, and uh... ? Why wouldn't you cast a vote? You didn't state a reason for that, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 (edited) Actually I made that weak post to see if someone would take the chance to pounce on me. Somebody who had a argument with Illusio blow up in his face and is looking for a diversion perhaps? After that argument you kept a low profile, and then you slipped your vote in against McDwarf who is currently voting against you. Right now I'd say that there's a chance Storm or Parseltongue is mafia. Parseltongue has been aggressive enough, but strikes me odd that a mafia would be so active on day one. Storm has been active enough to influence without standing out, and started the voting toward McDwarf. Of course the whole high-low profile thing is hard to read this early in the game. Edited December 10, 2012 by Bogeto Bogeto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted December 10, 2012 Author Share Posted December 10, 2012 (edited) >V-V-Votecount! (3) Urist McDwarf - Stormageddon, IllusioMagus, Parseltongue (1) IllusioMagus - Scumhunter X (1) Parseltongue - Urist McDwarf (1) Red Mage - Grape Soda Not Voting (6): Bogeto Bogeto, Gonzou Azai, Ikakas, Jay Gatsby, Red Mage, Viking With 12 alive, it takes 7 to hammer. You have about 43.5 hours left in the day. Still need a sub for Jay Gatsby. Reminder not to edit posts since this is NOC. Seriously, don't. Edited December 10, 2012 by cyborg sammy davis jr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Oh oops, I was just fixing a typo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C. C. Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Illusio vs parsel stuff is really wierd and I really think it's wierd that it started so quickly. I'm going to keep an eye on both players for now just for the fact that I found that extremely off. I'm gonna have to read a bit later though because I'm going to bed now. Internet was going on and off for a while before just shutting off for the past few hours. Sorry about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 ITT: Bogeto is opportunistic as fuck and Ikakas presents us with no actual scumreads at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Actually the word I'm looking for isn't opportunistic, more like "bullshitting the fuck out of me" and I don't believe a bit of his post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C. C. Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Nope, I have none as of the moment. I have none. But I'm getting bad vibes from you like I stated. I think it's probably just gut feeling though I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refakitty³ Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I shall minimize my Soda-related puns if you all so desire. I thought it would make things more lively, and it doesn't seem that hard to translate...but who am I to assume how you all interpret wording like "bad taste on your pallete" etc etc. Bogeto provided a convienent excuse, but so soon? I guess it drew out something, but it's still early game and I fail to see someone actively coming up with a diversion like that in hopes to nab scum. I am more curious as to why the intent of finding a side reaction. Aren't we supposed to point out things on multiple players? Bogeto you are encouraging straight tunnel vision right there, and calling out those who mean to deviate from static tunneled views. In fact, ##Unvote ##Vote Bogeto x2 I don't like your sudden jump calling out a player for calling you out. Your excuse seems like OMGUS and it feels like you have a pregenerated response for whomever responded to you. Almost like you are planning reactions based on if it is a scum!partner vs a townie reaching at you. Magus is impossible to read right now. I really don't see him committing to any one read. It seems more like he is coming up with any and all possible theories regarding player posts and working off what would be the worst case scenario, but for everyone who posts, regardless of what or when. That's all fine and dandy but doing it to everyone everywhere at every opportunity seems a bit more paranoid than anything else...I just have yet to attribute what side would act more paranoid in that manner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Getting bad vibes from me, probably because you read the argument between Illusio and me without actually reading *into* it. I like to know what exactly it is about people that bother people the most, but I suppose it's hard to ask that when it's only 'vibes.' Do you see Bogeto's bullshit right now? I'm close to voting him because of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Posts a bad post. The conveniently suspicious person rags on him for it. LOL JUST KIDDING, I'M GOING TO BACKTRACK THE FUCK OUT OF MY POST AND CLAIM IT WAS ONLY A REACTION TEST AND SUBTLY PUSH A MISLYNCH ##Unvote ##Vote: Bogeto Bogeto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Posts a bad post. The conveniently suspicious person rags on him for it. LOL JUST KIDDING, I'M GOING TO BACKTRACK THE FUCK OUT OF MY POST AND CLAIM IT WAS ONLY A REACTION TEST AND SUBTLY PUSH A MISLYNCH ##Unvote ##Vote: Bogeto Bogeto You can believe what you want man, but I specifically made that post crappy so someone would jump on it. I just wanted to see who some of the more aggressive players are, and it seemed like a good way to do it. Also I said there is a chance you're mafia, but didn't actually choose to vote against you. I'll admit though trying to make me look like a moron and attacking my creditability rather than my argument isn't bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I thought your argument was weak, and I personally don't believe you made the crappy post on purpose. You're hesitant to vote me even though you were eager to jump at me for my 'aggressiveness,' which I also see as a red flag. Why are you keen on finding the aggressive players? Yeah I could be mafia, but I'm not, and your argument implies that aggressiveness = scum, when it doesn't. So I don't really know what else to say about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 And you never addressed Grape Soda... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ochako Uraraka Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 You can believe what you want man, but I specifically made that post crappy so someone would jump on it. I just wanted to see who some of the more aggressive players are, and it seemed like a good way to do it. Also I said there is a chance you're mafia, but didn't actually choose to vote against you. I'll admit though trying to make me look like a moron and attacking my creditability rather than my argument isn't bad idea. Don't victimize yourself. I have the feeling that you are victimizing yourself in an attempt to appear pro-town and get votes off yourself. If anything, I think self-victimization is a scum tell. You're next on my list after Dwarf decides or decides not to reply me on my question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I never said that aggressiveness = scum. It's important to know who the more aggressive players are, as these are the ones who tend to have a power of some sort. I would say that aggressiveness is a reasonable suspicion but not probable cause for a vote, which is why I haven't voted for you. I try to have at least 3-4 reasonable suspicions before I vote to lynch, and since we are playing with longer days as opposed to real time, I didn't think I was quite ready to make the decision to vote. Grape Soda said pretty much the same thing you did, and I assumed one response would be fine. I guess I had to say something to Grapesoda, it would be can you elaborate more on my tunnel vision? I think I was the 1st person to say I suspected Storm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 He only addressed me and completely ignored Grape Soda's (valid) argument + vote on him, too. I simply choose not to believe his backtrack was planned and if he thinks I'm 'trying to make him look like a moron,' he's misrepping me. His claim is questionable. There's no denying that. One shouldn't expect to make a move like that and not get some shit for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Got ninjaed. I feel Grape Soda had more to the argument than I did, to be fair. I can't say we had the complete same reason for voting you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Don't victimize yourself. I have the feeling that you are victimizing yourself in an attempt to appear pro-town and get votes off yourself. If anything, I think self-victimization is a scum tell. You're next on my list after Dwarf decides or decides not to reply me on my question. It's not so much victimizing as explaining. And isn't the point of mafia to make moves and stir shit up, so that you can watch how people react? That's a great way to make people slip up imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I think you slipped up and are trying to make up for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Man though, I'm still not feeling Illusio at all. He keeps wavering in between reads and his post towards Bogeto felt a little weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I still think you are trying to distract people from your conversation with Illusio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Except that I'm not? I don't want anyone to forget about it at all, because I feel that he's likely scum. I can understand if you think I'm trying to divert attention to other people, but what good does it make to tunnel Illusio the whole time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refakitty³ Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Magus isn't here so anyone with a brain would have to backtrack to see their conversation anyway, and anyone using it would be able to identify inconsistencies that exist whether he's talking or not. Should we all just stop talking and let Magus and PT finish their little quarrel? Tunnel vision? You called someone out for talking/voting about a different player than the one they had been. Then you call him out for diverting attention. See above for my reason as to why you are encouraging tunneling. You act as though had he not reacted to you, business would continue as usual. That's bad behavior to encourage, and that's just the start of why I don't like you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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