BBM Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Okay, nvm, Marth is claiming one of those Backups that replaces a role automatically upon its death without knowing one. Understandable then that he doesn't know exactly what he can backup, but it's still a pretty common fake. I would know, I've done a lot of research into fakeclaims lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Prims fake'd Backup in Theatre mafia, just sayin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 He's not claiming backup. He's claiming that at some point he gets a role maybe. Marth, do you know under what conditions you get a role? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtSmilies Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 If you're going to say that you have no reads at least try to expound on why.. Well, ask and ye shall receive. Perhaps it's simply how it is, but most of what I read is people jokevoting, people who are reading into things too much, and people who vote out of vengeance. No one has really shown themselves as suspicious enough to warrant a lynching to me. However, there's an exception to this statement: Prims is scum IMO for continuing to keeping his vote on me and doing nothing else. This is an incredibly flimsy argument that makes basically no sense and the other things you've said haven't done much better. Therefor: ##Vote: Bluedoom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 I claim backup (I dunno which variant I'm Donny btw) @BBM: Bluedoom has actually claimed that he doesn't know his variant. It's unlikely to be the Death Backup that you mean because from experience (SF Mafia), those types of Backups usually know what they are. I'm thinking that he's the type that can choose a dead person and inherit their role or something. That's the only thing that is an uncertain variant or something. and I hoenstly think you guys trying to lynch me sucks but oh well.. @Bolded Part: Please, enough with the OMGUS, Bluedoom. It's a little bit irritating because it's more of insulting people for voting you and not actually defending yourself with reasons why you shouldn't be lynched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 SgtSmilies, aren't you being a little too opportunistic with your vote? That statement you quoted does not convict Bluedoom as scum, it's just an OMGUS that is absolutely neutral. Makes me think that you're just grasping for a reason to jump onto the largest wagon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 He's not claiming backup. He's claiming that at some point he gets a role maybe. It's entirely possible. Since we don't fully know what his actual claim is, maybe we should just drop our speculations on his role and let Bluedoom explain it to us in clearer detail later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Meh I can't have any reads atm unless its an OMGUS case(and I'm still thinking at least ONE scum has to be on my wagon cuz it seems so easy for them to get on to it in the first place.) Assessing the wagon: Prims actually posted stuff so he looks better than the others(and I know I voted him that was like at a time where I had to skim through the thread because I thought it was near phase end. But then I found out and just voted out of whatever I remembered) BBM looks better too cuz he's actually talking and doing stuff. Paper also is asking questions and all but I can't blame him since nothing else his happening but he has posted on whatever he could read atm.(course what're your thoughts on SB and Darros?) Boron and Mancer are in a similar boat as Paper except Boron really needs to comment on more like the Sgt thing and she should comment on SB and Darros. Mancer gets a pass since he hasn't checked the thread yet(and he should talk about those people as well) And Elieson well, is in the same boat as the last 3 people I talked about? Really this game gets uneventful real fast. so, ##Vote: Boron What're your thoughts on SB and Darros? Or the other people in the game really? Currently I know your stance on me, Mancer and BBM, so who else? Rapier(is he even voting me?) should come and actually post more stuff. For those not voting me: Darros I don't really agree with your Sgt vote reasoning Shinori said he's coming back today so he I expect content from him too. Sgt I have a null read on- he has very few posts and he doesn't even have any reads(a common newbie thing) so I honestly have no idea. Aerox needs to like, post so dohhh. And you're right BBM no one looks any different from the other not my fault things aren't happening. In fact my votes are probably gonna look OMGUS no matter what I do since I already think there has to be at least one scum who was on my wagon. All I can do is try and see what I get from voting people. EDIT: ohai mancer @Mancer: Well there's no reason not to lynch me but the only reason you have against me is that my votes are OMGUS. Too bad I don't have anything else to go on, right? Also just because people disagree with me advocating No-lynch does not mean I am scum. Brb I got a bit of stuff to do and I need to read SB and Darros in detail again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Guh sorry I went halfway through when I was talking about you Darros sorry concentration lapse dude >_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Boron and Mancer are in a similar boat as Paper except Boron really needs to comment on more like the Sgt thing and she should comment on SB and Darros. Mancer gets a pass since he hasn't checked the thread yet(and he should talk about those people as well) For the record, Marth, I've been busy and offline for most of today and actually haven't been able to formulate too much of a thought yet. I think that Sgt. Smilies being quiet is annoying, but at the same time I can understand it. He reminds me of a new player who isn't used to mafia here above all else. I'd need to see more from him before I can decide whether he's town or scum. Regardless, he isn't the only person who hasn't posted much of content. Where are Kay, Rapier, and Aerox? so, ##Vote: Boron What're your thoughts on SB and Darros? Or the other people in the game really? Currently I know your stance on me, Mancer and BBM, so who else? I have no problems with SB. He's contributing and scum hunting. As for Darros, I don't like how he says that he has no reads from the Marth wagon and then says in the paragraph after that "on a second read Marth looks scummy". I don't like that he has a town read on Mancer for "metagame" reasons and not much else. (Also, Darros, don't talk about ongoing games, please.) Speaking of Rapier, where are you? What do you think about Mancer and Marth now? I also disagree with your Prims vote, Marth, he has talked about stuff other than you. However, he needs to get back here and post stuff on what he thinks about people now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Bluedoom, you're doing the selective reading thing again. Please read my posts in full detail again, ty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Mancer, I was actually thinking of something more like what Marth himself was in SSBU where he replaced the Town Rolecop after they died, and didn't know that until then. I dislike Marth's listpost because despite giving opinions on nearly every single player in the game, he somehow manages not to have a single scumread. His Boron vote is really just a prod asking her to post thoughts on SB and Darros. Related to that, he asks opinions from everyone about SB and Darros, but he himself says nothing about SB and very little about Darros. Nor does he explain why exactly he wants people to give their opinions about SB and Darros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 For the record, Marth, I've been busy and offline for most of today and actually haven't been able to formulate too much of a thought yet. I think that Sgt. Smilies being quiet is annoying, but at the same time I can understand it. He reminds me of a new player who isn't used to mafia here above all else. I'd need to see more from him before I can decide whether he's town or scum. Regardless, he isn't the only person who hasn't posted much of content. Where are Kay, Rapier, and Aerox? I have no problems with SB. He's contributing and scum hunting. As for Darros, I don't like how he says that he has no reads from the Marth wagon and then says in the paragraph after that "on a second read Marth looks scummy". I don't like that he has a town read on Mancer for "metagame" reasons and not much else. (Also, Darros, don't talk about ongoing games, please.) Speaking of Rapier, where are you? What do you think about Mancer and Marth now? I also disagree with your Prims vote, Marth, he has talked about stuff other than you. However, he needs to get back here and post stuff on what he thinks about people now. Understood . And yeah I have a similar view of SgtSmilies. Hmmm yeah I have no problems with SB either. He makes a good point that Darros looked at the wagon and didn't understand what was happening but he never posted any reads. However I don't really care for the comment about SB asking vig to shoot inactives and Darros not liking that or BBM suggesting the same. That's a different notion on how to deal with inactives- a difference of views, again, I don't necessarily find that scummy. Again I clarified my Prims vote, it was made after a very quick skim and on re-read I realized it wasn't valid so I unvoted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Bluedoom, you're doing the selective reading thing again. Please read my posts in full detail again, ty. yeah, I'm still not understanding you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Prims fake'd Backup in Theatre mafia, just sayin. Prims fake'd Backup at MYLO, just sayin' He's not claiming backup. He's claiming that at some point he gets a role maybe. Marth, do you know under what conditions you get a role? I have no idea. It just looked similar to the role you gave me in SSBU(oh cool I got ninja'd) so I connected 1 and 1 and thought I was a backup. I mean I never knew I was a backup until then right? Mancer, I was actually thinking of something more like what Marth himself was in SSBU where he replaced the Town Rolecop after they died, and didn't know that until then. I dislike Marth's listpost because despite giving opinions on nearly every single player in the game, he somehow manages not to have a single scumread. His Boron vote is really just a prod asking her to post thoughts on SB and Darros. Related to that, he asks opinions from everyone about SB and Darros, but he himself says nothing about SB and very little about Darros. Nor does he explain why exactly he wants people to give their opinions about SB and Darros. Bold: LOL why should people need a reason to give their reads on players? More reads means more info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Guys I am like 90% sure Marth is town based on the way he claimed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Can someone put up votals? I'm on a phone and can't do it that well and it's been very long since we've had a votal count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted March 17, 2013 Author Share Posted March 17, 2013 (edited) Votals: Bluedoom (6): Priam, Sangyul, Elieson, BBM, Mancer, SgtSmilies SgtSmilies (2): Frog, Paperblade Sangyul (2): Areox, Bluedoom MancerNecro (1): Rapier aerox (1): Gallade Priam (1): Shinori Frog (1): SB 5 votes required to deadline lynch, 8 to hammer. There are 20 hours 50 minutes left in the phase. Edited March 17, 2013 by Baldrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 ##unvote I'm extremely drunk and have no idea how to explain it but Marth claiming Donny the whatever backup thingy doesn't seem scummy to me and im all about how claims are made vs the claim itself so yea that's about all I got right now. Oh and thank autocorrect for probably making this legible. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 @Marth- Sure, but why them specifically? You might as well ask people to just give reads on the entire game if you're going to look at it like that. Regardless, ##Unvote, ##Vote: Paperblade. Isn't doing anything at all and his Sgt Smilies vote feels lazy. Why vote him in particular over say Kay or Rapier or Shinori who haven't done anything either? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Shinori said he wouldn't be around and Rapier/Kay weren't going out of their way to not contribute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Also Kay is almost never around on weekends so voting her would be pointless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 SgtSmilies, aren't you being a little too opportunistic with your vote? That statement you quoted does not convict Bluedoom as scum, it's just an OMGUS that is absolutely neutral. Makes me think that you're just grasping for a reason to jump onto the largest wagon. ##Unvote: Bluedoom ##Vote: SgtSimiles Because I thini you're very opportunistic with your earlier Marth vote just as eveyone piled their votes on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 After thinking stuff through, I'm a bit more skeptical of the Marth claim. Also, weird roleclaims don't necessarily make a person town. I'm not forgetting about Pokemon Adventures in a hurry. Not sure if we should lynch him still isn't a lot to make conclusive cases on people. Could you possibly give reads on people who aren't Marth, Smiles? Now, on the topic of shooting inactives I think that's a terrible idea. When you're completely inactive you should probably be subbed out. Not killed for the purpose of being inactive. Killing someone because they're inactive is a terrible reason to kill them, as there's no real reads on them because they aren't here. They could just as well be town as mafia, in fact they're more likely to be town ((unless this game is like horribly balanced but I trust Baldrick knows how to balance a mafia game)) and this is a bad idea. You're not sitting with me well right now SB because of that statement. Shooting inactive people has potential to be extremely town detrimental. ;/ BBM, your going along with this makes me glare a little at you too. Is the sole reason you find me scummy due to what I thought of the vig question? Marth sitting his vote down on Boron to get her to answer a question and then not taking it off is weird. Mancer's votehop looks pretty poor too, and he could be called opportunistic himself for just jumping onto the next largest wagon in the game with only one line to support his reasoning, and the only time he mentioned Smiles was three hours before, with one line of reasoning. He also didn't vote right away, but changed it three hours later in-between which Smiles didn't make any posts to worsen his opinion of him, using the exact same reasoning, only not posed as a question. Yeah sorry I'm asking questions to clarify information from the person I'm currently voting Anyway I think Marth is town, roles like that are uncommon on SF, but even though it's a reasonable scum fakeclaim the way he presented it makes me think he's not lying ##Unvote, ##Vote: Smiles Do something Asking a few questions is fine when you're actively scumhunting, but I don't remember you doing it at all. All I remember about you is your defense of Marth, and flinging a lot of questions around. The Smiles vote doesn't look like you suspect him at all, it's more "next biggest wagon lets not lynch marf guys". Prodding someone else to scumhunt isn't good if you're not doing it yourself. ##Unvote ##Vote: Paperblade We get it, you think Marth is town. Who do you think is scum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 After thinking stuff through, I'm a bit more skeptical of the Marth claim. Also, weird roleclaims don't necessarily make a person town. I'm not forgetting about Pokemon Adventures in a hurry. Not sure if we should lynch him, because still isn't a lot to make conclusive cases on people. fix'd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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