Zkirsche Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Also, we recruited SSG last night so that we wouldn't need to out our neighbour targets in the future. Proto can target Manix to prove he's a Neighbourizer tonight if you think he's Cult, so lynching him because you think he's the Leader is a bad idea when that can be tested. I can at least understand Boron's rationale in that she thinks that Proto might be a mafia Neighbourizer, but suspecting us of being a Cult is dumb. Yeah great, except when we asked him to test it he didn't. What happens to people who refuse to prove their role? They get lynched. No more extra chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strege Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Proto if your spellcard is what I think it is I could townclear you right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strege Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I think that's how that works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Okay, my apologies, I read something in your ISO out of context. You said the bit about third-party rolespec wrt not claiming the particulars of your spellcard right away, near the end of D4. But, no, that's not how it works. We're not mislynching someone when their role can be proven tonight just because they didn't prove it last night. That's dumb. I'm asking Xinny to claim because Shadoweh's role is known to someone else other than her, and Xinny's isn't. You don't want to lynch Shadoweh anyways, because if you really believe we're a cult, going after the leader, Proto, is more important than going after a cultist. Anyways, if we're not thinning down on inspection, I'm going to go with ##Vote: Cam. As I said earlier, I don't think he's clear by virtue of BPV claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkirsche Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 But when tonight comes how do I know Proto won't just neighborize someone else again? I'm not going after Shadoweh, I'm going after Proto; however part of the reason I find you gusy suspicious is because the majority of your members haven't been pro-town for the majority of the game. If I can trust Shadoweh to be town then I know that Proto is town because I don't believe that godfather and scan-preventing neighbourizer work well together. Considering that BPV is literally all his role is, I don't think that Cam is a harmful third party. What harmful third party has BPV alone? I guess BPV Traitor is a possibility but then we're not even lynching actual scum we're just lynchign someone who wants scum to win. If we think Cam is harmful to us we can just ignore everything he posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 We don't know that BPV is all his role is though. Remember, at least one member of the mafia has a fake PM that includes a portion of their real role that they scan as. He could easily be BPV <role> instead who scans as BPV. Kirsche, if we were a cult, we'd recruit people who WERE looking pro-town, wouldn't we? And we can go for Manix tonight. Lynch Proto otherwise tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriemhild Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 If you guys want to see if we're a Cult, let's go with this ##Vote: Shadoweh My own reasons have nothing to do with this Cult check though. Fera never gave me any reason to believe that he's Town. He seemed Townish in OC interactions, but his true loyalty remains suspect. Anyways, last night, me and Paper felt pretty confident that shooting BBM would be the best target at that time. Paper ordered Shadoweh to kill BBM, and Shadoweh AGREED to do it. Day Phase comes and we discover that he shot scorri instead. This is extremely suspicious. Even if he thought Paper was scummy, why would he have agreed to do it then? If he didn't trust Paper, he could have talked to any of us about Paper's plans of shooting BBM. But no, he refused to shoot BBM and shot scorri, who is like, the most Townish player in our neighborhood. scorri was the one who was supplying all this info about the game set-up, info that the Mafia clearly won't benefit from making them public. Shadoweh's behavior from last night is far too suspicious, absolutely none of his previous actions have implied any Townishness. Add in the fact that neither Fera nor Shadoweh contributed much in NOC, and we have a player that no one should be missing. ##Vote: Shadoweh I'm gonna drink Shinori's potion now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted June 24, 2013 Author Share Posted June 24, 2013 GAME PAUSED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted June 24, 2013 Author Share Posted June 24, 2013 (edited) Day 5.2 - MODSCENE Before she could address any accusations, Suika keeled over and had to withdraw from the game out of sickness. Don't drink and play mafia, kids. Proto - Suika Ibuki - Town Neighborizer - Killed Day 5 Game resumes. Edited June 24, 2013 by Witch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I hate this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 fuck this shit first I learn that I was supposed to get vigged and then Proto gets shot Shinori, did your potion kill Proto? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkirsche Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I just have the feeling that that's unlikely. Lynching someone on a theory (that's there's another third party) which has evidence against it (Cam having BPV role) and not much evidence for is too risky, we've mislynched too many times already. If you're town neighorizers you should be recruiting people who you think are looking pro-town so I consider that point moot. How many times can you say that before we finally lynch you? Pedit: Why wouldn't you out that sooner Proto? Seems like a pretty big thing to wait like 18 hours into the day before outing. Why is Vig so pro town? So pro town that it made Fera look "less scummy than Proto" in PB's eyes? Pedit2: Ok well that settles that question then. ##Unvote Now then. Erm. ##Vote: Shadoweh kirsche for Town MVP all scum reads turn up town gg wp ez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Yes BBM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkirsche Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Also I have definitely seen SB read the thread but he didn't post anything. Me no likey. But maybe at this point I shoudl just assume all of my scum reads are town and vice versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strege Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Eff surviving, I'm getting information out of this phase no matter what. @BBM: I need you to explain how the GF works better than you have been. The fake PM is extrapolated from a part of the real PM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB. Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Also I have definitely seen SB read the thread but he didn't post anything. Me no likey. But maybe at this point I shoudl just assume all of my scum reads are town and vice versa. lol at mafia having a killcop And I've seen people viewing the thread and not speaking all game. Why are you so edgy about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB. Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Also I have no idea how scorri was townier than BBM but I guess I'm never getting my answer now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 shinori you are the worst I didn't even know Shadoweh's role. I was asking to be told it since I was feeling uncomfortable with defending her solely on faith, and then Shinori randomly decided to kill Proto, which closed the neighbourhood so bleh. @Strege- More correctly it's an interpolation, since the fake PM contains only a portion of their real role. I swear I mentioned this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB. Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I guess by role but eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strege Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I will give you the head of one scum for a spellcard I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB. Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Strege: who's cards do you know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 What did I come back to Uh, rereading thread right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Shadoweh, fullclaim now since nobody alive knows your role anymore Strege, what do you mean? Whose spellcard do you need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkirsche Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Iunno by process of elimination based on town reads you're high on the scumdar. Xin'dy too and I would like her to claim. Also I don't think your role hasn't been confirmed. Oh man I really wish Proto would've explained why he wanted BBM shot. Pedit: That strege deal is probably worth it. Also Rapier needs to get back in here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strege Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Don't know: SSG, Manix, scorri, Boron. I spoke rudely before BBM, sorry, stakes are a little high for me right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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