eclipse Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 There's an unaccounted-for second kill that I am positive is a SK (Grassbridger wasn't a scumread on anyone). Also, I do NOT like Paperblade's claim. The vanillas in this game are outright underpowered compared to this. ##Vote: Paperblade Since I can't rely on night results, I need to get a better read on you. Null due to emotion is not what I want out of a claimed unlimited commuter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) bleh [10:45:29 PM] Rohan Kulkarni: marth i made a mistake [10:45:31 PM] Rohan Kulkarni: you werent redirected [10:45:42 PM] Rohan Kulkarni: i meant to type psych and accidentally typed refa [10:45:46 PM] Rohan Kulkarni: your action just failed [10:45:47 PM] Rohan Kulkarni: that's it [10:45:56 PM] Abhi: what [10:46:01 PM] Abhi: shit [10:46:09 PM] Abhi: can I post this in thread? [10:46:12 PM] Rohan Kulkarni: yeah [10:46:16 PM] Rohan Kulkarni: doesnt really make a difference This is basically what Marth edited out out. Choosing not to modkill him for this since it doesn't technically reveal any role or alignment info (and because I said he could post it in-thread, even if I meant paraphrasing). Edited October 1, 2013 by BigBadMarshmallow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Elieson this claim has the same problem it did last time you claimed it: Why are you using your action when you just want to live? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 also Survivor is basically just mafia traitor so even if Elieson is telling the truth we should lynch him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 plus what Weapons said seems to indicate that there aren't harmless neutrals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Because i'm Compulsive (BBM thought it was compulsive when he read it from Choral apparently), so I have no choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 ... That's hilarious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 This is the part where you say Oh yea, about that scumhunting that I haven't really tried since early D2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 You're trying to change the subject from the part where your role doesn't make sense in the context of the town win condition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Well, fun facts about this: Oh yeah so the Failed Claims win con is when we're the only ones left, so A theoretical survivor can win with town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I asked BBM and he said yes. Can't quote cause lol rules, but. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 One thing I have to ask though is why would Elieson claim third party if he knew it was going to get him lynched? It just seems counterproductive. Also nevermind, I'm an idiot. Didn't notice that Psych copped him. :\ So I guess the issue here is whether or not Elieson is in fact the survivor or the SK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 If you don't believe me IDC, but I'm out in the open and as far as I know, I win with a primary faction, so I have to watch who I think is town and hope I don't suicide myself before ppl decide to lynch me or whatever. At this point I'm town siding because I have no ties to scum and nothing really to gain by it. The difference is, I'm still scumhunting. Paper is just parked on me because he doesn't think he should have to hunt because he's probably scum commuter. Guess what paper. If threats are entirely eliminated and I'm not declared a winner with town, town can just lynch me and win with no effort and claim the win for themselves. Why are you so insistent on lynching me and doing jack shit of anything else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 Also, the next person who quotes any modcommunication at all will be modkilled, regardless of how minor it might be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Well, I'd like Psych to clarify how conclusive his result is but I still don't really see a reason for Elieson to live. Why would you Watch me with your role if you thought I was mafia when you had better targets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I think you're lying, by the way. You're now saying "You're not scumhunting" when what you mean is "You're not finding other people scummy stop it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 Also- MYLO/LYLO and variants will not be announced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 You haven't put much effort into scumhunting for a while, so whats different for me calling you out for it now when it's what I voted you for yesterday and today for? DO you have any other scumreads? Also, I watched you because I thought you were town during D1. Obviously I don't think that anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 and I did call you out for your scumhunting (lack thereof) before Psych even outt'd his cop result, so like I said, since when am I suddenly calling you out for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I'd still like to lynch Refa since I feel like his Day 2 has been more scummy and less "new player mistakes," but I wouldn't really cry if Euklyd got lynched. Those are my two reads based on PoE. I have pretty good non-mafia reads on the rest of the player list so I'm not really sure what you want me to do. Should I make up a case on Weapons or something? Should I try to compare Euklyd to Marth's slot, that had literally done nothing all game? I've speculated enough on Kay based on the fact that she wasn't around to do anything. Also, something that eclipse's comment on my role reminded me of: In both PoT games, eclipse was a vanilla townie and took issue with the backup claims made by JB and myself respectively, saying that the existence of a vanilla did not make sense with her role. But, eclipse doesn't seem to have had any issue with scorri's backup claim in this game, at least to my memory or to my ability to ctrl+f. Sooo I dunno what's up there The fact that I commuted on a night with three kills, only one of which was claimed should be evidence that I'm not wolf. @Elieson: You said early Day 2 you found my reasons for voting scorri meh. Reads to me like a scumread, since Bizz who you lumped in with that was the person you voted. Additionally, I said that's what it's turned into. You're not defending the part where a survivor just sides with a mafia when they tell him "Vote with us or you die" etc, you're just going "At least I'm scumhunting." And there's still the fact that you could just be a lying SK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Who said I was vanilla? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeaponsofMassConstruction Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 bastard modding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeaponsofMassConstruction Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 But actually, I highly doubt BBM put a survivor in this game while making town win con specifically win when we are the only ones left. I think the traditional win con is you win when all threats to town are eliminated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I'd still like to lynch Refa since I feel like his Day 2 has been more scummy and less "new player mistakes," but I wouldn't really cry if Euklyd got lynched. Those are my two reads based on PoE. I have pretty good non-mafia reads on the rest of the player list so I'm not really sure what you want me to do. Should I make up a case on Weapons or something? Should I try to compare Euklyd to Marth's slot, that had literally done nothing all game? I've speculated enough on Kay based on the fact that she wasn't around to do anything. Also, something that eclipse's comment on my role reminded me of: In both PoT games, eclipse was a vanilla townie and took issue with the backup claims made by JB and myself respectively, saying that the existence of a vanilla did not make sense with her role. But, eclipse doesn't seem to have had any issue with scorri's backup claim in this game, at least to my memory or to my ability to ctrl+f. Sooo I dunno what's up there This is something neat actually. The fact that I commuted on a night with three kills, only one of which was claimed should be evidence that I'm not wolf. Not sure anyone called you a wolf. If you say I did, all I said was "hmmmmmm". Why, because it got me thinking more. For what it's worth, assuming that's your role (and it makes lots of sense at this point), I don't see you as an SK. @Elieson: You said early Day 2 you found my reasons for voting scorri meh. Reads to me like a scumread, since Bizz who you lumped in with that was the person you voted. Additionally, I said that's what it's turned into. You're not defending the part where a survivor just sides with a mafia when they tell him "Vote with us or you die" etc, you're just going "At least I'm scumhunting." And there's still the fact that you could just be a lying SK. I didn't feel like outing that my watch had failed on you. Also, considering no one else had outted anything else as D2 progressed, I became more curious as to what could've caused me to fail, what with the redirections of Boron and Grass already outted and all. TBH I strongly considered either an ascetic or a commute were part of your role, and I found your slot more stepping down from town to null due to that. As D2 progressed, I became less and less confident that you were a correct townread, as far as I was concerned, due to your performance and sudden jump to PoE, as well as your latter half of D2 performance being like "I dunno how my reads are faring i'm pissed at myself for having lame reads" yada yada. But actually, I highly doubt BBM put a survivor in this game while making town win con specifically win when we are the only ones left. I think the traditional win con is you win when all threats to town are eliminated. Can you stop this already? It's simple enough. When BBM announces that the scumteam is gone, the game should end. If I'm still alive by then, and the game is still going on, just lynch me. It's already out there, and it's already a plan that makes sense. Can we please go back to hunting scum and stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Who said I was vanilla?I didn't say you were vanilla, but there are two flipped town vanillas in this game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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