Changing the DS games for the better!

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

Ogma is fine (+1Str is a good idea), I don't see how Malicia is OP, besides the fact that she can use Hammerine (and is it really that broken). Make it a C rank staff. Suddenly she's not OP.

Or make it somewhat less alvailable?(say.... you get it during CH.14 or 15)

Removing early rescue does more than postponing Hammene tbh. After all, Hammene is useless when you don't have the Staff to repair >_>

Edited October 14, 2013 by JSND

[Refa]

Or make it somewhat less alvailable?(say.... you get it during CH.14 or 15)

Removing early rescue does more than postponing Hammene tbh. After all, Hammene is useless when you don't have the Staff to repair >_>

I think while Rescue/Hammerine saves a lot of turns, it's not necessarily game breaking (e.g. playing requires a hell of a lot more planing than warp skip) and I don't feel that it's negatively affecting the balance in any way.

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

Thats exactly what i was going to say. She is considered broken because the player can make ridiculous plan #9182 and clear the map faster and easier. Meanwhile Warp Skip is basically point and click. I don't see how the former is something that you can call unbalanced, cutting turns be damned

In a sense she is basically like a Dancer not named Olivia because lol Olivia. Did Dancer in general need nerfing? I think not

Edited October 14, 2013 by JSND

[EdeaCreamer]

Sorry, I didn't mean 'Hammerne isn't an issue,' I meant 'Malicia being its sole feasible wielder isn't an issue.' I mean, the alternative would be to let -anybody- use the damn thing, which would make matters -worse-.

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

How exactly it made it worse?

That just means Malicia is not the only one who cut turns because she can Hammene an important staff, ironically making her a balanced pick under drafts.

[Parrhesia]

let's pretend that I know the difference between page 1 and page 9

(fe12's avatar still isn't a bloody tactician)

Edited October 14, 2013 by Parrhesia

[eclipse]

i don't know why you would possibly do that. the only thing worse than giving the player a broken item (and hammerne isn't even that bad) is to give the player a useful item at a point in the game where there is almost zero incentive to use it.

Or it can be removed entirely.

[TheBigDipper]

(wait, why is it over to day 10 and the title's still day 9?)

Day 9: Make 11Wrys a more defensive Curate. Or remove him completely and replace by 7,8 years old Malicia 2 Vulneraries. 12Marth, no opinions beside less gay portrait.

Day 10: Give 11Ogma some tiny extra growths for Str and Def. 12Malicia is OP if reclassed to a Mage (6-7 Mag at base reclassed fuck yeah), -1 to Mag and remove Hammerne exclusivity.

[PKL]

Thats exactly what i was going to say. She is considered broken because the player can make ridiculous plan #9182 and clear the map faster and easier. Meanwhile Warp Skip is basically point and click. I don't see how the former is something that you can call unbalanced, cutting turns be damned

In a sense she is basically like a Dancer not named Olivia because lol Olivia. Did Dancer in general need nerfing? I think not

have fun just pointing and clicking in H2 warpskip.

[EdeaCreamer]

So I'm seeing delay/remove/de-character-specify Hammerne, and lower Malicia's starting staff EXP (and also Yumina's, otherwise you're just replacing one problem character with another, and she probably shouldn't start with the Rescue staff equipped).

Edited October 14, 2013 by EdeaCreamer

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

have fun just pointing and clicking in H2 warpskip.

I have a secret weapon

Copying PKL playthrough

I need to try H2 >_>

Edited October 14, 2013 by JSND

[TheBigDipper]

It's dead for like 5 days or something. A topic about DS games balance dies in around 8 days while some stupid convo about Awakening characters can last like forever.

[EdeaCreamer]

I guess people have moved on. Shame.

[Refa]

It's dead for like 5 days or something. A topic about DS games balance dies in around 8 days while some stupid convo about Awakening characters can last like forever.

This depresses me. :(

[commonguard]

I don't know if you guys are still on FE12!Marth but just give him C swords to start. That's all he needs to not be as much of a dead-weight.

[TheBigDipper]

This depresses me. :(

What depressed you? The fact that people doesn't care about FE11, or my sentence meant to bash FE13 mindless "fans"?

[Refa]

What depressed you? The fact that people doesn't care about FE11, or my sentence meant to bash FE13 mindless "fans"?

The fact that people care more about convos of FE13 characters, which is a game I've never played. :p

[RJWalker]

Well, people do love to talk about what they hate...

[TheBigDipper]

[Arch]

I think I missed it, but for Wrys, make him a prepromote. With a higher weapon rank, he'll have some utility with those earlygame physics. Lena obviously turns out better in the long run, but Wrys is a good earlygame clutch healer. With some decentish growths, his usefulness may last. At least he can kinda tank magic hits.

Like I did in my shamelessly plugged FE1 revamp project thing.

P.S. I'm gonna be watching this topic for ideas.

Edited October 21, 2013 by Arch

[Espinosa]

^ We do already have Wendell for that, though.

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

Maybe make Wendell with much less versatility?

Wendell is not exactly known for being a Sage + Staffbot as much as he is known for being able to do everything

[Espinosa]

You could just take all of Wendell's absolute base speed away and that will be the end of that.

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

I actually liked how he is able to do that so eh >_>

[Soledai]

If Day 9 is still going, give Wrys his New Mystery growths and I dunno for Marth, maybe increase his Sword rank? For a returning Lord starting with D was odd