Makaze Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I guess you should get along with your sexist self then, or at the least stop replying until you have more to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) i don't see how he wasn't that credible. i don't see how he was incredibly sexist, and even if he was, it's not like he said anything outrageous, most of it i agree with. by outrageous i mean he would say 'girls never read directions' and adamantly believe it. FIXED FOR THOSE THROWING PISSY FITS his sexism is rational simply because you agree with it? nice. 1. i don't think sexism is rational 2. was just trying to say i don't think he was really uncredible. his sexism might influence how he would respond to a girl, but elie is a guy. Edited January 31, 2014 by Comet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 his sexism is rational simply because you agree with it? nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaze Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) i don't see how he was that sexist, and even if he was, it's not like he said anything outrageous, most of it i agree with I agree, but I have a problem with his approach. I get the vibe he wouldn't give advice to a woman in the same situation because he would think she was beyond help, being a woman. In other words, one needs manhood to stand up for themselves. If that's not the case, then they need to change their approach to reflect something less sexist. In either case, they lost a lot of credibility. As a side note, this is an unabashed ad hominem response. I don't have a problem with their advice. I have a problem with them. Might have been more polite and receptive if this were not FftF. Edited January 31, 2014 by Makaze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) I don't agree all, probably don't even agree with most, maybe even disagree with all, of what black ops said, but the ascribed gender roles aspects of his post were rather incidental to his actual advice, and not really enough reason to dump the whole thing down the sink. EDIT-Elie I wish you the best with this, certainly don't view myself as qualified to offer any advice however. EDIT2-Actually the part about supporting her despite her shacking her boyfriend up with him might've been a bit of a sexist argument since it assumes she's not a breadwinner herself...? Even though elie said in his post that she does work now at least. Edited January 31, 2014 by SeverIan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klokinator Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 i don't like you, so this is going to be easier for me to give it to you straight at some point in time you had your manhood cut away from you figuratively and you never found it again. now you're so deep in shit and either more in love with her than she is with you, or you're doing what typical givers do, and going out of your own way and sacrificing your health and priorities for the kids you probably should never had taken responsibility for in the first place (read: because the original decision of marriage was probably not thought very through on your part, not because loving your kids is bad) you're gonna have to fucking man up and cut her loose and take custody of the kids, or you can cut the whole thing loose and be that dad some unfortunate kids have the displeasure of knowing as "he went out for cigarettes one day and never came back into our lives" the decisions up to you but i suggest you start prioritizing what's logical, possible and important for yourself and your progenity as for the money situation and losing the home, that sucks big time. speaking from experience, depending on someone else to help keep your home and home loss all together isn't a pleasant memory to have, and i hope you bounce back p.s. i don't know why you're such a nice fucking guy, but letting a woman (that i would like to think of as my wife) "cheat" for a year on me, then supporting her "temporary boyfriend"? in your own fucking house? are you fucking kidding me? real talk that's a fucking dealbreaker for me, i don't know about you bro, i understand you have kids, and she's the mother of your daughter, but jesus fucking christ have some fucking self respect for yourself instead of being a goddamn doormat i apologize for the profuse language but i just have no other way of expressing my disgust clearly because i'm terrible with feelings MAXIMUM TROLL ENGAGED IGNITING ONLINE BADASS THRUSTERS PREPARING TO LAUNCH FLAMING THRUSTER 3 2 1 SHITSTORM INITIATED, NOW PREPARING FOR ATTACK BY MODERATORS ATTACK NOT DEFLECTED, WE'VE TAKEN HEAVY CASUALTIES FIRING AD HOMINEM TORPEDO DEFLECTED, ALL SYSTEM CRITICAL PERSONAL ATTACKS LAST RESORT NOOOOO WE'RE GOING DOWN THIS SHIT WON'T STOP US, WE'LL BE BAAAACK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) MAXIMUM TROLL ENGAGED IGNITING ONLINE BADASS THRUSTERS PREPARING TO LAUNCH FLAMING THRUSTER 3 2 1 SHITSTORM INITIATED, NOW PREPARING FOR ATTACK BY MODERATORS ATTACK NOT DEFLECTED, WE'VE TAKEN HEAVY CASUALTIES FIRING AD HOMINEM TORPEDO DEFLECTED, ALL SYSTEM CRITICAL PERSONAL ATTACKS LAST RESORT NOOOOO WE'RE GOING DOWN THIS SHIT WON'T STOP US, WE'LL BE BAAAACK This is sparta FftF... EDIT-I didn't capitalize sparta but I did capitalize FftF... Edited January 31, 2014 by SeverIan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDRHAWK Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Klok this is why everyone both loves and hates you at the same time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gcubedude Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I wish I could do more than just offer condolences and pray for you, but I'm afraid that's all I can do right now. Do you really live in North Houston? I just checked, and apparently that's only about 600 miles from where I live. If I could, I'd head over there and give you a hug (I'm not a cuddler like you, but I'm fond of hugs, even with guys). Sadly, I don't have that luxury, so I can only pray that everything works out with as little pain and stress as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book of Ereshkigal Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 MAXIMUM TROLL ENGAGED IGNITING ONLINE BADASS THRUSTERS PREPARING TO LAUNCH FLAMING THRUSTER 3 2 1 SHITSTORM INITIATED, NOW PREPARING FOR ATTACK BY MODERATORS ATTACK NOT DEFLECTED, WE'VE TAKEN HEAVY CASUALTIES FIRING AD HOMINEM TORPEDO DEFLECTED, ALL SYSTEM CRITICAL PERSONAL ATTACKS LAST RESORT NOOOOO WE'RE GOING DOWN THIS SHIT WON'T STOP US, WE'LL BE BAAAACK Tee hee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttmuncher.ops Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) I guess you should get along with your sexist self then, or at the least stop replying until you have more to say. You should give gender-neutral advice or give none at all. because I refused to have my children's mother out and about and nowhere to be found makaze im dying from laughter at how dumb you're making yourself sound the synomous meaning of the phrase you had a problem with was explained to you in post #17, yet you go on making yourself look like a fool talking about gender neutrality where the subject is a father discussing the possibility of his kids being raised without a proper mother, or in a proper home even. yes please, let's try to make marriage and parenting a gender neutral discussion lol really? edit: oh yeah, i guess i'm sexist for telling someone what should be acceptable for rules in their own house. i guess if you own the house, that means you shouldn't have a say in anything in how it's supposed to be run. thats sarcasm btw, in case you have reading comprehension problems again Edited January 31, 2014 by black op: skyfang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleph Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 like literally half of this thread is unrelated bitching makaze that wasn't really necessary Eli we're like, the same age. I dunno what you're gonna do but let me know what you figure out because I could use those sort of problem solving skills pretty badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyFireMage Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 wow never change SF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klokinator Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) makaze im dying from laughter at how dumb you're making yourself sound the synomous meaning of the phrase you had a problem with was explained to you in post #17, yet you go on making yourself look like a fool talking about gender neutrality where the subject is a father discussing the possibility of his kids being raised without a proper mother, or in a proper home even. yes please, let's try to make marriage and parenting a gender neutral discussion lol really? SIR WE'VE INITIATED THE SELF-DEFENSE CURLING MECHANISM BUT THE BOMBS AREN'T HOLDING NO PROBLEM USE THE WOUNDED ANIMAL BARREL ROLL TECHNIQUE GOOD IDEA CAPTAIN THAT'S WHY WE RELY ON YOU WAIT NO FUCK IT'S NOT WORKING THEY'VE LOST THEIR GRASP ON OUR MEANING TORPEDOS PRETEND WE DIDN'T EVEN ATTACK THAT OUGHT TO FOOL THEM THEN INITIATE A TACTICAL RETREAT BUT SIR THE TROLL-DRIVE ISN'T FINISHED YET, THEY'RE STILL BARRAGING US FUCK OKAY THEN USE THE NUZLOCKE SHIELD UNTIL WE CAN REPAIR THE TROLL-DRIVE YOU FUCKING IDIOT BUT SIR WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH POKE-COINS TO USE THE NUZLOCKE DRIVE HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAINTAIN OUR SHIELDS ABOUT 12% DAMMIT IM A CAPTAIN NOT A DOCTOR Edited January 31, 2014 by Klok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Should've posted this in General instead of FFtF, Elie. ;/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leinex Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Elieson, I don't know you at all, but I'll pray to the gods I don't believe in for your sake. (In all seriousness, I'm pretty much an atheist...) Should've posted this in General instead of FFtF, Elie. ;/ ...I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaze Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) makaze im dying from laughter at how dumb you're making yourself sound the synomous meaning of the phrase you had a problem with was explained to you in post #17, yet you go on making yourself look like a fool talking about gender neutrality where the subject is a father discussing the possibility of his kids being raised without a proper mother, or in a proper home even. yes please, let's try to make marriage and parenting a gender neutral discussion lol really? lol yes. Marriage and parenting already are both gender- and sex-neutral. Your argument would only make sense if all parents conceived their own children, were heretosexual, and happened to fit their assigned gender roles perfectly. This is far from the case. Not only is there no limit to who what type of people can raise children, these extremely varied people often raise children who not their own biological children (which is half of the case with our OP). Two feminine hetero individuals can raise children. Two women who happen to be feminine can raise children. Two men who happen to be feminine can raise children. Two masculine hetero individuals can raise children. Two women who happen to be masculine can raise children. Two men who happen to be masculine can raise children. Just how sexist are you? makaze that wasn't really necessary I'm fine with having my posts deleted if that is necessary. Edited January 31, 2014 by Makaze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I'm gonna respectfully ask that ya'll try to at least stay relatively close to the matter at hand, and that nobody goes full-on over the rails here, even given the forum of origin. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDRHAWK Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I'm honestly only still reading this thread because I wanna see where Klok's going with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttmuncher.ops Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) lol yes. Marriage and parenting already are both gender- and sex-neutral. Your argument would only make sense if all parents conceived their own children, were heretosexual, and happened to fit their assigned gender roles perfectly. This is far from the case. Not only is there no limit to who what type of people can raise children, these extremely varied people often raise children who not their own biological children (which is half of the case with our OP). my point stands where you failed to comprehend or even read my "argument" i know it was a bit of a tl;dr but that's okay, im still getting laughs out of this Two feminine hetero individuals can raise children. Two women who happen to be feminine can raise children. Two men who happen to be feminine can raise children. Two masculine hetero individuals can raise children. Two women who happen to be masculine can raise children. Two men who happen to be masculine can raise children. you realize you're describing genders and societal pre assigned affinities of masculinity and femininity as your example cases for gender neutral advice, right just how hypocritical / thickheaded are you? edit: my last post cause what bal said is right, none of this has anything to do with OP's situation i'm sorry if i rustled your jimmies because i said english is hard for you or something Edited January 31, 2014 by black op: skyfang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Laufeyson Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Klok this is why everyone both loves and hates you at the same time I love Klok. At least right now. SIR WE'VE INITIATED THE SELF-DEFENSE CURLING MECHANISM BUT THE BOMBS AREN'T HOLDING NO PROBLEM USE THE WOUNDED ANIMAL BARREL ROLL TECHNIQUE GOOD IDEA CAPTAIN THAT'S WHY WE RELY ON YOU WAIT NO FUCK IT'S NOT WORKING THEY'VE LOST THEIR GRASP ON OUR MEANING TORPEDOS PRETEND WE DIDN'T EVEN ATTACK THAT OUGHT TO FOOL THEM THEN INITIATE A TACTICAL RETREAT BUT SIR THE TROLL-DRIVE ISN'T FINISHED YET, THEY'RE STILL BARRAGING US FUCK OKAY THEN USE THE NUZLOCKE SHIELD UNTIL WE CAN REPAIR THE TROLL-DRIVE YOU FUCKING IDIOT BUT SIR WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH POKE-COINS TO USE THE NUZLOCKE DRIVE HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAINTAIN OUR SHIELDS ABOUT 12% DAMMIT IM A CAPTAIN NOT A DOCTOR WE'VE BEEN IDENTIFIED! ABORT! ABORT! SHIELDS HAVE FAILED TO HOLD! Sorry...had to. makaze im dying from laughter at how dumb you're making yourself sound He does that sometimes. Sometimes, you just gotta let that sleeping dog lie. Or poke it. With a really long stick so it doesnt look like its you doing the poking. Back to Elieson.... In some lands, one has only one god. In others, none at all. In my land, there is the need for many. I shall pray to all of them for you. Do not be offended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klokinator Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 my point stands where you failed to comprehend or even read my "argument" i know it was a bit of a tl;dr but that's okay, im still getting laughs out of this you realize you're describing genders and societal pre assigned affinities of masculinity and femininity as your example cases for gender neutral advice, right just how hypocritical / thickheaded are you? edit: my last post cause what bal said is right, none of this has anything to do with OP's situation i'm sorry if i rustled your jimmies because i said english is hard for you or something SIR I JUST REALIZED THEIR WEAKNESS IF WE EXPLOIT IT WE MIGHT ACTUALLY PULL THIS OFF WELL SPIT IT OUT YOU NIMBUS I CAN'T READ MINDS AFTER ALL THEIR WEAKNESS IS CONJECURATIVE EXPLOITURE BASED ON HYPERBOLIC PARABOLOTIVE TRANSDIMENSIONAL ANALYSIS INITIATED RIGHT AFTER A SUBSPACE PARTICLE SWEEP GODDAMNIT I DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT THE FUCK YOU JUST SAID YOU PIECE OF SHIT SECOND OFFICER SORRY SIR WHAT I MEANT WAS THAT THEIR WEAKNESS IS BIG WORDS BIG WORDS WHAT THE FUCK THEN WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST SAY THAT YOU GODDAMN IDIOT SORRY SIR IT'S A FORCE OF HABIT DRILLED INTO ME BY THE MOB OF INTERNET SUB-MINIONS WHO FORCED ME TO PRETEND LIKE I DIDN'T CARE WHEN IN FACT I FIERCELY DID SIR ALL RIGHT THEN LAUNCH THE FUCKING BIG-WORD TORPEDOS SIR THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY'RE CALLED YOU CAN'T JUST MAKE UP WORDS LIKE THAT FUCK YOU JEFF THEN WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY CALLED I TOLD YOU SIR THEY'RE CALLED THE CONJECURATIVE EXPLOITURE BASED ON HYPERBOLIC PARABOLOTIVE TRANSDIMENSIONAL ANALYSIS INITIATED RIGHT AFTER A SUBSPACE PARTICLE SWEEP CANNONS SIR RIGHT FINE FUCK OFF AND FIRE THE CONJECURATIVE EXPLOITURE BASED ON HYPERBOLIC PARABOLOTIVE TRANSDIMENSIONAL ANALYSIS INITIATED RIGHT AFTER A SUBSPACE PARTICLE SWEEP CANNONS THEN YOU GODDAMN IDIOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnor97 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) Oh Elie, this is horrible to hear. You've always been such a nice guy who seemed to have little to no big worries (from what I've seen in your posts), and to see this just makes my heart feel heavy. I wish there was something I could do, but until things get better, I'll hope and wish for your eventual happiness. Just remember that these troubles will end someday. Edited January 31, 2014 by Konnor97 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrhesia Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 This should migrate to a different thread. It's sad to hear, and sad that Makaze (who is literally a paedophile) is shitting it up along with others. My hopes go with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Laufeyson Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 SIR I JUST REALIZED THEIR WEAKNESS IF WE EXPLOIT IT WE MIGHT ACTUALLY PULL THIS OFF WELL SPIT IT OUT YOU NIMBUS I CAN'T READ MINDS AFTER ALL THEIR WEAKNESS IS CONJECURATIVE EXPLOITURE BASED ON HYPERBOLIC PARABOLOTIVE TRANSDIMENSIONAL ANALYSIS INITIATED RIGHT AFTER A SUBSPACE PARTICLE SWEEP GODDAMNIT I DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT THE FUCK YOU JUST SAID YOU PIECE OF SHIT SECOND OFFICER SORRY SIR WHAT I MEANT WAS THAT THEIR WEAKNESS IS BIG WORDS BIG WORDS WHAT THE FUCK THEN WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST SAY THAT YOU GODDAMN IDIOT SORRY SIR IT'S A FORCE OF HABIT DRILLED INTO ME BY THE MOB OF INTERNET SUB-MINIONS WHO FORCED ME TO PRETEND LIKE I DIDN'T CARE WHEN IN FACT I FIERCELY DID SIR ALL RIGHT THEN LAUNCH THE FUCKING BIG-WORD TORPEDOS SIR THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY'RE CALLED YOU CAN'T JUST MAKE UP WORDS LIKE THAT FUCK YOU JEFF THEN WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY CALLED I TOLD YOU SIR THEY'RE CALLED THE CONJECURATIVE EXPLOITURE BASED ON HYPERBOLIC PARABOLOTIVE TRANSDIMENSIONAL ANALYSIS INITIATED RIGHT AFTER A SUBSPACE PARTICLE SWEEP CANNONS SIR RIGHT FINE FUCK OFF AND FIRE THE CONJECURATIVE EXPLOITURE BASED ON HYPERBOLIC PARABOLOTIVE TRANSDIMENSIONAL ANALYSIS INITIATED RIGHT AFTER A SUBSPACE PARTICLE SWEEP CANNONS THEN YOU GODDAMN IDIOT <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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