MartyTheDemonSlayer Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) Hector and Ephraim are both really unusual in that they learn the value of advice and become slightly less headstrong throughout their games. Ike is the only one who really develops to be more independent (Sigurd is independent, but he's that way to begin with.) Chrom's father is an example that perhaps the lords in the fire emblem games are unique, but a counterexample would be how Marth needs an army to do what Anri could do by himself. You could make a case for some of the other lords being unusual. Celice due to having both Baldo and Narga blood (technically lopt too, even if the game doesn't give it to him), Ike for rising to mercenary from nothing, and my unit in FE13 is more or less perfect in every way. Then again, there's no specific reason to think that Hector is unique, since he doesn't especially rise to the challenge in FE6, Roy there's not much evidence either way, same with Eirika and Ephraim. Leif also isn't shown too be too special in FE5 with all the mistakes he makes. I also don't like Eirika that much. She just seems to be vapid, overly trusting, and always has to listen to Seth/whoever else is advising her. Edited July 31, 2014 by MartyTheDemonSlayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wander Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) Yeah, Hector's failures in FE6 I can't think of a good counterpoint for; so I concede. My only thoughts are that there have been people that were extraordinary only to meet untimely ends, and they're still larger-than-life figures. I can't comment on Sigurd/Celice/Leif, I'll get back to you after I play those games. :P My issue with Eirika is that she's never seen battle in her life, but it's implied she's given command of troops throughout the game. No other character really steps up to the plate if you take her route, and it really makes me wonder why there's no appointed commander when she's being "escorted" to Rausten, or especially when she invades Grado. It's like the game wants to make her a leader, and then portrays her as anything but a capable one. EDIT: She does have Seth, who she relies on, but I almost feel he should have been the protagonist/leader. Unless he is, but the game doesn't really make it clear if that's the case, so I unno. Edited July 31, 2014 by Wander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I think I agree with Anacybele and maybe Serah F. I think a red-haired female with some sort of unique weapon that no other lord in the series has had would be neat, like a bow or a knife if they come back. Also, a Dark Mage, maybe? I hope only if Dark magic is rare like FE6/FE10, and maybe if it's it's own class instead of being grouped together will all other tomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alertcircuit Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Yes, I'd love to see a main lord use dark magic, heck magic at all would be super cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted August 1, 2014 Author Share Posted August 1, 2014 You could argue that Celica, Micaiah, and Awakening Avatar are lords and they all use magic. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belisarius Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 You could argue that Celica, Micaiah, and Awakening Avatar are lords and they all use magic. :P id consider them lords in the fire emblem way that if they die you lose (making assumption with celica), but theyre not the main lords or titled lords Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alertcircuit Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 You could argue that Celica, Micaiah, and Awakening Avatar are lords and they all use magic. :P Celica gets overshadowed by Alm, Micaiah has to share spotlight with Ike, and the avatars don't count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotari Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 We should have a lord who is a Manakete because it would be awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 That would be cool as well. Okay, I think...IMO: Some kind of female lord. Maybe some kind of Manakete, or if dark magic is as rare as FE10 and FE7, maybe a Dark Mage. A bow lord, if none of that simply because it hasn't been done yet. And no, Lyn doesn't count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Just give me a male mage lord and I'll be happy. Failing that, a female lord who specializes in strength over speed and wields a physical weapon that's not a sword. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Captain Falcon would be perfect for the role. He kicked both Awakening's Lord's asses. Someone that uses magic and no self-inserts. That's all I want, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ownagepuffs Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I'm all for a Cavalier for next Lord honestly. If they must keep swords (which they will), mix it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotari Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 One gameplay idea for a Lord that I think would be interesting is if they had variable growths, a bit like how stats work in Final Fantasy II. The lord starts with 10% in every stat but the more actions you take in a particular stat the higher the that growth raises. For example every time your lord takes a hit their defense and health stats go up by 5%. This would allow you to slowly customize your lord to fit any role in the game you might desire. Hand them a killing edge and watch their skill sore. Give them a magic sword (or let them use staves at base) and turn them into a dedicated magic user. Repeatedly throw them into enemy attacks and watch them become a tank. Of course to stop the stats growing too high too quickly certain actions would lower growth rates like attacking physically will higher their strength growth rate by 5% but lower their magic growth rate by 3%. I think this would be very interesting. It would kind of make your lord a high availability Est. At the start of the game the Lord will have terrible growth rates and it's more than possible to not gain any stats on the first few level ups but by the end of the game they could become an extremely powerful unit specializing in a style of your choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etria Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 (edited) I think I would want an arrogant lord. Someone who thinks he's the best of the best and cannot lose. And two or three chapters in, he loses a big battle. Many people die, definitely some of his family and he's forced to flee by his jeigan. The rest of the game would be him growing up, becoming responsible and learning how to be a good leader. And winning back the kingdom from the enemy because this is still Fire Emblem. I don't care much about the design, though a hair colour that hasn't been done yet would be nice (blonde, black, purple, whatever). Edited August 2, 2014 by General Asthar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ownagepuffs Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I think I would want an arrogant lord. Someone who thinks he's the best of the best and cannot lose. And two or three chapters in, he loses a big battle. Many people die, definitely some of his family and he's forced to flee by his jeigan. The rest of the game would be him growing up, becoming responsible and learning how to be a good leader. And winning back the kingdom from the enemy because this is still Fire Emblem. I don't care much about the design, though a hair colour that hasn't been done yet would be nice (blonde, black, purple, whatever). This sounds eerily similar to Tales of The Abyss. Minus the winning his kingdom back of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etria Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Ugh, Tales of the Abyss. I found that game so boring and the main all characters annoying :X Pls no clones in FE. (That Avatar nonsense was bad enough already) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy_One Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I'd want to see Lucina as the next lord. If that's not acceptable, I'd rather see a female sage or cleric. One whom has seen the destruction that the Fire Emblem can bring firsthand and is now trying to rally the people to try and defend against it, only to have people disbelieve her that an object can bring that much destruction. She slowly gathers a small group of followers, but it's too late and it arrives, sparking off a huge international war to try and claim its power. Something along those lines. I'm not really in the mood for character creation ATM on account of having just woken up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magical Glace Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Having a "secretly 1000 years old" trait does not translate into Doylist age. Micaiah clearly looks 15 or 14, thus she is 15 or 14.Uh, she's at least 23...20 years between the Serenes Massacre and PoR. 3 between PoR and RD. She was supposedly killed alongside Misa'ha 23 years before RD. Not to mention she looks no different in the CG with little kid Sothe. Back on topic, I like my lords young. Older lords feels off to me, except Micaiah. I also would not mind a bow wielder. Or a healer. Or a Manakete. Just remake FE6 And personality wise, I prefer Roy/Eliwood types of lords, mainly because it fits the role. The kid needs to mass recruit people, so he/she needs to charm them into joining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ownagepuffs Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Ugh, Tales of the Abyss. I found that game so boring and the main all characters annoying :X Pls no clones in FE. (That Avatar nonsense was bad enough already) Hell no it's easily one of the best Tales games. FE13 technically had clones. You see the Grima clone thingy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etria Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Hell no it's easily one of the best Tales games. Tales of Symphonia FTW :P Kratos is just Hmmm~ (Part 2 not so much.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alertcircuit Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Uh, she's at least 23... 20 years between the Serenes Massacre and PoR. 3 between PoR and RD. She was supposedly killed alongside Misa'ha 23 years before RD. Not to mention she looks no different in the CG with little kid Sothe. Back on topic, I like my lords young. Older lords feels off to me, except Micaiah. I also would not mind a bow wielder. Or a healer. Or a Manakete. Just remake FE6 And personality wise, I prefer Roy/Eliwood types of lords, mainly because it fits the role. The kid needs to mass recruit people, so he/she needs to charm them into joining. I think the point Logience was making is that Micaiah doesn't really count as an adult Lord because she still has the design of a teenager and that's half-assing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolas Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Lord with blue hair, who slays dragon. His company are old, but wise advisor, two cavaliers and pegasus knight gf. Well, I don't give crap about story in FE games anymore. Only gameplay is matter to me now. Make it unique and enjoyable. I just want something other than standard copypasta FE game (in terms of gameplay). IMO people who play FE games for story are doing it wrong. Please, go read books. But not some shit. Read good one. Like Brave New World. Not for me. Do it for yourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaMonkey Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 (edited) I'd rather see a female sage. Since when does the Lord ever start the game as a Tier 2 unit? or cleric Why would you want the Lord to start with only having staves? That would totally suck! Edited August 2, 2014 by NinjaMonkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faye Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I actually PREFER male heroes over female ones, so I want the next lord to be a man again. 8U Let him be some young skinny twig who's never lifted a sword in his life, because he is a mage. And his kingdom gets taken over by his uncle or someone, and he has to gather an army to reclaim the throne and free slaves or something like that. Just let the next FE lord be a skinny young man with no muscle, just magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topazd Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 IMO people who play FE games for story are doing it wrong. Just because stories are not the primary selling point in FE doesn't mean that they should be completely dismissed. It's been pulled off well in the past and we know how much it can actually contribute, and how detrimental the absence of one can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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