Magical CC Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Okey, The real man is Dorcas. He fight for his wife while Bartre just wander around like a fool and Geitz having some trouble with his boring life( how can he deny such a hot babe like Isadora?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ϲharlie Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Bartre might be a bit of a fool, but he's a fool with a heart of gold. He tried to convince Eliwood to pay Dorcas more money so he could take care of Natalie. Who doesn't want a friend like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magical CC Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Bartre might be a bit of a fool, but he's a fool with a heart of gold. He tried to convince Eliwood to pay Dorcas more money so he could take care of Natalie. Who doesn't want a friend like that? What the....? I haven't know about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Bartre, because he produces a hella-cute daughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tino Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Dorcas > Geitz >>>> Bartre Bartre really sucks. Dorcas has awesome earlygame utility and massive durability and pretty decent offense, despite his low AS. Bartre might have a better Speed growth, but his speed is still balls because of a shitty base. Geitz is just awesome, but not good enough to be better than the manliness that is Dorcas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Judy Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 (edited) Dorcas > Geitz >>>> BartreBartre really sucks. Dorcas has awesome earlygame utility and massive durability and pretty decent offense, despite his low AS. Bartre might have a better Speed growth, but his speed is still balls because of a shitty base. Geitz is just awesome, but not good enough to be better than the manliness that is Dorcas. O, I have never been able to level up Dorcas properly. Edited September 13, 2008 by Dark Sage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kintenbo Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 In a Hard Mode standpoint, it usually stands as Dorcas=Geitz>>>Bartre. Why, but Bartre has the better stats? Answer, it's his base stats that kill him in Hard Mode. Sure, speed is rarely an issue in this game, but Bartre starts out so slow, that he can't even double a soldier. A sword unit or a cavalier is bound to double him. I'll vote Geitz, since he's a free Warrior. I usually use Dorcas more, but whatever. Then again, brown clothing looks awesome on Warriors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 In a Hard Mode standpoint, it usually stands as Dorcas=Geitz>>>Bartre.Why, but Bartre has the better stats? Answer, it's his base stats that kill him in Hard Mode. Sure, speed is rarely an issue in this game, but Bartre starts out so slow, that he can't even double a soldier. A sword unit or a cavalier is bound to double him. I'll vote Geitz, since he's a free Warrior. I usually use Dorcas more, but whatever. Then again, brown clothing looks awesome on Warriors! Geitz may be a free warrior, but Dorcas has the benefit of being in Lyn's story and gaining all of that extra experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSu Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Geitz may be a free warrior, but Dorcas has the benefit of being in Lyn's story and gaining all of that extra experience. Which is worthless if he can't double a soldier as a level 20 warrior. Seriously, Bartre may be a bit hard to train, but he comes out well worth it. At least give him the respect you'd give a good unit that comes at a low level but later in the game. His speed usually gets above 20 for me, and he doubles most everything. Also, Blue armor Warriors totally own Brown armor Warriors. Punk... <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordsalmon Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Which is worthless if he can't double a soldier as a level 20 warrior.Seriously, Bartre may be a bit hard to train, but he comes out well worth it. At least give him the respect you'd give a good unit that comes at a low level but later in the game. His speed usually gets above 20 for me, and he doubles most everything. Also, Blue armor Warriors totally own Brown armor Warriors. Punk... <_< Doesn't matter, since Dorcas is usually one-rounding with his enormous Strength and critical-boosting supports with a Killer Axe. Besides, Dorcas does have a pretty nice Speed base. ^_^ Exept Bartre really doesn't come out well. Second-worst durability out of anyone for a good while, and has so much competition for the Hero Crests. Guy usually gets the first one, then Dorcas and Raven. It's unlikely Bartre will even promote, and of course, much weaker than the other options for a long time. How generic, though. Ward, Ross, and Garcia are also blue Warriors. At least Dorcas' pallete is more unique. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted September 13, 2008 Author Share Posted September 13, 2008 Well neither units have good support factors anyway. So it would really matter much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiba Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Batre hands down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteor Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 (edited) Well neither units have good support factors anyway. So it would really matter much... Fire > Thunder Edited September 13, 2008 by Meteor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serene Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Why in hell do you say Heaven and Hell at the begining of your topics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordsalmon Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Well neither units have good support factors anyway. So it would really matter much... Both Fire and Thunder affnities are among the best in the game, and Dorcas has excellent options in Geitz and Oswin. I'd think he would at least get around either Oswin A, Geitz B, or Geitz A, Oswin B. Geitz of course supports Dorcas, and Raven's best option might actually be Bartre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted September 13, 2008 Author Share Posted September 13, 2008 Why in hell do you say Heaven and Hell at the begining of your topics Why do you care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tino Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Both Fire and Thunder affnities are among the best in the game, and Dorcas has excellent options in Geitz and Oswin. I'd think he would at least get around either Oswin A, Geitz B, or Geitz A, Oswin B. Geitz of course supports Dorcas, and Raven's best option might actually be Bartre. Oswin A, Geitz B. Not the other way around. Raven's supports have always bothered me. All he can get is A/B Priscilla, because all of his other support partners won't be played... except for Lucius, who already also has Serra and possibly Priscilla, too. We shoult team up and show Serenes Forest what good debating is :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted September 13, 2008 Author Share Posted September 13, 2008 Why would you even bother supporting with RavenXBartre? Bartre should probably support with Canas, if not him then Dorcas? And if you actually bothered with Karla support with her as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordsalmon Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Oswin A, Geitz B. Not the other way around.Raven's supports have always bothered me. All he can get is A/B Priscilla, because all of his other support partners won't be played... except for Lucius, who already also has Serra and possibly Priscilla, too. We shoult team up and show Serenes Forest what good debating is :P Ah, that works then. Usually what I'll use anyways. ^_^ Even Priscilla support is doubtful, considering Erk is desperate for any A support, and she wants Guy's +2 offense after promotion. Bartre and Lucius have promotion issues, so Raven is usually support-less. That sounds great. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tino Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Ah, that works then. Usually what I'll use anyways. ^_^Even Priscilla support is doubtful, considering Erk is desperate for any A support, and she wants Guy's +2 offense after promotion. Bartre and Lucius have promotion issues, so Raven is usually support-less. That sounds great. :) ^_^ Then I say Raven should be dropped out of Top Tier, in my opinion. I never actually looked at it this way, but now that I do, I'm pretty sure. No supports and mono-swords for a while = no Top Tier Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 We shoult team up and show Serenes Forest what good debating is :P It always gets shouted down, I'm afraid. It's a pretty casual site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted September 13, 2008 Author Share Posted September 13, 2008 Even Priscilla support is doubtful, considering Erk is desperate for any A support, and she wants Guy's +2 offense after promotion. Bartre and Lucius have promotion issues, so Raven is usually support-less. Raven is supportless??? RavenXPriscilla. So that Raven can have good Evade, Good accuracy and Good critical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tino Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Erk x Priscilla, for possibly one of the best supports in the game, and Guy x Priscilla for the sake of Guy being awesome and Priscilla being awesome. This means no Raven x Priscilla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordsalmon Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 ^_^Then I say Raven should be dropped out of Top Tier, in my opinion. I never actually looked at it this way, but now that I do, I'm pretty sure. No supports and mono-swords for a while = no Top Tier Awesome! :) I completely agree. It's so odd when people drop Guy so low for having 'unreliable' supports, yet keep Raven in Top. He should be lowered. Let's show them what we showed FEE! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted September 13, 2008 Author Share Posted September 13, 2008 Erk x Priscilla, for possibly one of the best supports in the game, and Guy x Priscilla for the sake of Guy being awesome and Priscilla being awesome. This means no Raven x Priscilla. Erk = neh GuyXMatthew because Matthew needs Guy support if he wants to do well on Cog of Destiny walkthroughs. So RavenXPriscilla siblings must stay together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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