Kamina Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 The absence of my fellow performers is most disappointing. I would very much like an answer on who Jaraxxus believes is scum, because currently all that is before me is a desperate fellow looking for any chance to survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I've been here, but I haven't said anything since I'm also waiting for Jaraxxus to respond. Out of curiosity, what's your read on me, Phantom? I know you mentioned I looked suspicious to you a couple days ago but what are your thoughts now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamina Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Initially, my read on you was a result of the events of D1 and the wagon that developed rather rapidly. There is somewhat of a logical progression throughout the rest of the game but it's not like one would be willing to label you as clearly town. However, in the light of the current company, it would make far more sense for Jaraxxus to be our final scum than yourself. Kind director, would you be able to remind Jaraxxus of his part? As much as one does enjoy the current duet that is present, I feel an additional singer would allow a more complete performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivier Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 At first I thought Sanaki had high chances of being scum due to their lack of pressure on the previous ATF case, but Phantom brings my attention now. While it is true that they voice opinions about players and make their vote, Phantom seems to me as a player who follows the tune, saying things about players that are on the spotlight and following popular wagons, with the exception of the Sanaki vote on the beginning of the game. Their vote on dondont was only laid very late on the game, even though they already had addressed dondont's play before. I dont recall seeing Phantom scumhunting by themselves, taking the initiative, instead they have been coasting all along. Their read on Sanaki still seems very shallow, even compared to my aforementioned shallow read on Phantom. "I've thought you were scum because your wagon grew rapidly but then I saw some logical progression of your play", really? Which logical progression is this? Why does that logical progression make you think Sanaki is town? Scum can have logical progression as well. Logic is a null tell, content matters more than form upon reading a player. I don't remember whether Phantom has a clear read on me as well. Why am I scum on your eyes? Sanaki seems to think I am scum for last Day's hammer, about which I have nothing more to argue about that I haven't before (see how my brilliant scum gambit has led me to the lion's den, yes it makes perfect sense to bring out so much attention as scum on LYLO). The absence of my fellow performers is most disappointing. I would very much like an answer on who Jaraxxus believes is scum, because currently all that is before me is a desperate fellow looking for any chance to survive. Nothing wrong with this, except with the exaggerated portrait of my situation in the end of the post. Seems like mudslinging and obvious paint of myself in a negative light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivier Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 It is a bit unsettling how Sanaki has made a case against me whereas Phantom has revealed nothing, instead all too happy to nod and agree that I am indeed scum, then give a shallow and vague excuse to justify why Sanaki is not a viable candidate. I think I am content with lynching Phantom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB. Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 Roughly 15 hours left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamina Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 If your conviction of my allignment is strong, I call upon you to vote. You say that you would not draw such an audience as scum on the final day, but you would need to do so after the events of the previous days. Whilst one may protest that scum would not draw such attention to themselves with a quickhammer, one would ask why town would do the same action. Surely as town you would know the implications of hammering an individual before they may protest their innocence? You refused to produce a read on dondont, but vote him nonetheless. Throughout the time before his passing, you words cried "I cannot read this dondont so therefore I shall not make mention of him until I need to!" ##Vote: Jaraxxus I am glad that you are content with your decision, although it is one full of inconsistency. Your previous complaints of Sanaki are much akin to those you have of myself and you ignore my stated discontent with your quick hammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Looking over everything that has been said today, I also believe that ##Vote: Jaraxxus is the correct move for reasons I've already stated. Here's hoping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB. Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 "YOU FACE JARAXXUS, EREDAR LORD OF THE BURNING LEGION!"Sadly this didn't save him from a fireball to the face. Jaraxxus, you are a Vanilla Townie. You have no special abilities.You win when the mafia is dead. Shortly afterwards, Phantom of the Opera was silenced. Phantom of the Opera, you are a Vanilla Townie. You have no special abilities.You win when the mafia is dead. And thanks to dondont's efforts, Sanaki found herself at the top of the FE10 tier list (somehow). Sanaki, you are the Mafia 1-shot Roleblocker. Once in the night, you may ##Roleblock a player to prevent them using any night actions that night. Limited shot roles will not consume a use if you block them.You win when the mafia achieves parity with the town. Congratulations to the mafia for winning Quickhammer Mafia! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) Ho-lee-butter-beans. team Filler Scumblem scoots by on the skin of their teeth And here I thought I could get away with the quickhammer, since town tends to forgive quickhammers on D1 from what I've noticed Edited February 23, 2015 by Sara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I kinda turtled the final day, though. Didn't have enough Warp staves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB. Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 Postgame Identities: Wadatsumi (Prims) - Town Rolecop Supreme Intelligence (Bluedoom) - Town Vanilla A True Friend (Refa) - Town Vanilla Sanaki (Radiant Dragon) - Mafia 1-shot Roleblocker Phantom of the Opera (Shin) - Town Vanilla Noerin (Mitsuki) - Town 1-shot Roleblocker Jaraxxus (Rapier) - Town Vanilla dondont151 (Elieson) - Mafia 1-shot Rolecop 2hu porn star (Randa) - Town Vanilla General: Aside from LYLO basically every lynch in this game was a turbolynch and as a result this made things very hard for the town. This was a deliberate play by Eli D1, and I'd say Shin's hammer D2 didn't hurt as things could've easily flipped back around to Prims' lynch, but the D3 hammer was terrible. I don't think town (or either faction) played badly though aside from the hammers, so I think this game probably would've been interesting if it didn't spend more time in the night phase than in the day. I don't really have much to say other than that given how short the game is so uh... onto player reviews I guess. Player Reviews: Refa/Randa: RIP Elieson: I don't think the quickhammer gambit was a bad plan (evidently, it almost worked) but like I said I think it was a bad choice due to only having one scumbuddy to pick up the pieces if things go wrong. Taking the initiative and outing the guilty on Prims was probably a good play even if it didn't work out. Prims: I think you maybe should've kept a lower profile due to a PR, but that might've happened if the FUCKING 5 HOUR QUICKHAMMER didn't happen, but other than that you did well. One thing that confused me though was how you thought RD was town because dondont asked why he was scummy and didn't go anywhere with it? This might just be confirmation bias talking though so idk. Marth: This was kind of an off game for you. I think the best advice I can give you is to doublecheck your logic before posting, because I remember looking at some of your points for why Eli was townier than Prims and thinking that they didn't make sense. Mitsuki: You were generally on point before D3 and looked townie enough to get shot, so I think you played well and had bad luck on getting hooked/not being around to stop quickhammers. I think that claiming D3 with who you intended to target that night would've been a better play than staying silent though because scum had an decent chance of shooting you or could counterclaim you the next day if you lived. Rapier: WHY DID YOU QUICKHAMMER AFTER SEEING HOW BLATANTLY ANTITOWN IT WAS WHEN ELI DID IT? Seriously. You deserve props in LYLO for being one of the only people to realise that RD wasn't really contributing too much, but I don't know why you didn't look for it the day before? Basically, don't get complacent because it's likely to lose you games. There wasn't even much to reread and look for here either. Shin: I found your play oddly unmemorable but after checking you were doing pretty well before the terrible day 3 happened. The main thing that confused me though was how in early LYLO you seemed to forget about your prior scumread on Sanaki completely? I don't blame you for looking Rapier's way though after the quickhammer, and I think the decision was a tough one to make anyway. Radiant Dragon: The way I would best describe RD's play is "hiding in plain sight" after he went through with the hard defense on Eli who flipped scum, but then got no pressure for it the next day while everyone went for Marth's head. The main critique I have with your play is that it was kind of spineless? You never really seemed to have particularly strong opinions or push them, but I don't think it became an issue here because of how quickly the days went by, but keep it in mind for the future anyway. By the time you got to LYLO you weren't really in the spotlight though and had both of the living townies fixated on each other so good job there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDRHAWK Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 JARAXXUS WASN'T REIN WHAT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 JARAXXUS WASN'T REIN WHAT you honestly thought rein was playing mafia? he doesn't do that anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsuki Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Someday I'll learn to deal with my ED1 reads properly. To be honest I couldn't care less about the quickhammers and about losing, this was a really cool game to play. Maybe because it was so short. I hope you guys won't quickhammer again though; even if you are 100% sure about something or you have a guilty you should give others time to say what they want to say, and reading your suspect's defense is a must if you want to avoid screwing up. Also Elie how could you just hammer Refa like that, that's so cold </3 @SB: as I said, I was probably going to claim, but I wanted to think about it for a while. I didn't expect a quickhammer 1 hour into the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Clearly the temptation to mislynch Rapier was too stronk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB. Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 Yeah, not being able to predict a THIRD CONSECUTIVE QUICKHAMMER was probably fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDRHAWK Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 IF ONLY THERE WAS A D1 DOC LYNCH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB. Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/GGGfgDefyHA http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/V6kALvCHYJWNZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 i would never have picked an alias I used for a CYOR character and also anon sucks and also NOC sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Also Elie how could you just hammer Refa like that, that's so cold </3 Refa's always scum though. I wasn't incorrect or something! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) If the last maf is smart they should no kill after a ML today to get into 4p mylo with only one clear but I dunno if they'll figure out it's optimal play or not. Didn't even cross my mind. I feel kind of dumb for not thinking about it, now. Edited February 23, 2015 by Radiant Dragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 This game sucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 lol at eli and rd shooting me thinking i would be hard to lynch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 The moral of this game is to not quickhammer three days in a row because eventually you'll run out of reliable reads. No, seriously. I can see the logic behind the D1 quickhammer because it came from scum, and I think it's generally a good idea to hammer confirmed scum/move past a 1-v-1 as soon as you are certain who is scum. But D3 was just awful, what the fuck Rapier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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