MrSmokestack Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Just now, Extrasolar said: After a spell of pretty bad luck on pulls (was getting tons of Laslows, lots of Firs, some more Shannas, etc.) I find that the best way to enjoy the pulls and the game in general is to celebrate your small victories. Especially because I can use all the Laslows as Hone Speed, Axebreaker fodder, and send the Shannas and Firs home for feathers. I want your Shannas. Please give them to me, haha. She's great Desperation fodder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Just now, Extrasolar said: Thanks! Yeah, after a spell of pretty bad luck on pulls (was getting tons of Laslows, lots of Firs, some more Shannas, etc.), I've finally been getting pretty good units. I find that the best way to enjoy the pulls and the game in general is to celebrate your small victories. Especially because I can use all the Laslows as Hone Speed, Axebreaker fodder, and send the Shannas and Firs home for feathers. But shanna gets Desperation though............ Please tell me you still have at least one left over....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extrasolar Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, MrSmokestack said: I want your Shannas. Please give them to me, haha. She's great Desperation fodder. 2 minutes ago, Arcanite said: But shanna gets Desperation though............ Please tell me you still have at least one left over....... ohshitwaitwhat Shanna of all people gets Desperation?! thank god I still have one sitting here o.o Thanks for letting me know you guys. But who to slap Desperation on... Edited April 12, 2017 by Extrasolar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmokestack Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Extrasolar said: ohshitwaitwhat Shanna of all people gets Desperation?! thank god I still have one sitting here o.o Thanks for letting me know you guys. But who to slap Desperation on... Fast units carrying brave weapons. Use a HP assist like Ardent Sacrifice and presto, you're on your way to 4x attacking everything without fearing a counter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, Extrasolar said: ohshitwaitwhat Shanna of all people gets Desperation?! thank god I still have one sitting here o.o Thanks for letting me know you guys. But who to slap Desperation on... In addition to what SmokeStack said: Life and Death Fury Swift Sparrow All of these are good with Desperation, but make sure it's on units who already have decent attack and good speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 These quests were the easiest to me. I had high leveled Stahl, Cecilia and Subaki which were the ones needed to clear the highest difficulty quests. Ironically, the 5 orbs were the first ones to get because I did alfonse/sharena/anna/cecilia. I got sophia and niles and trained them. Funny thing is, sophia was much more useful and easier to train than niles, with zero skills. Higher atk and more bulk, niles struggled even at doubling enemies. I'm just missing subaki's because I'm currently training spring camilla who got dragon fang from augmented sophia. Also, I got 5☆ raven yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extrasolar Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Just now, MrSmokestack said: Fast units carrying brave weapons. Use a HP assist like Ardent Sacrifice and presto, you're on your way to 4x attacking everything without fearing a counter. That sounds diabolical. I love the idea already. The Brave users I have at the moment are Klein, Gordin, Barst, and Draug. I'm assuming Barst is the top candidate for it, since I believe he has the best speed of the Brave users, other than Klein, but Klein being a bow puts him at a disadvantage due to his inability to counterattack at melee range. Is that about right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Extrasolar said: That sounds diabolical. I love the idea already. The Brave users I have at the moment are Klein, Gordin, Barst, and Draug. I'm assuming Barst is the top candidate for it, since I believe he has the best speed of the Brave users, other than Klein, but Klein being a bow puts him at a disadvantage due to his inability to counterattack at melee range. Is that about right? They don't necessarily need braves if they just have really baller atk, even. Like I run desperation on Nino because with Desperation up and like, one buff she can orko Ryoma who would otherwise just oneshot her with his counter. I also run it on Minerva and she hits hard enough to take down squishier swordlords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmokestack Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Extrasolar said: That sounds diabolical. I love the idea already. The Brave users I have at the moment are Klein, Gordin, Barst, and Draug. I'm assuming Barst is the top candidate for it, since I believe he has the best speed of the Brave users, other than Klein, but Klein being a bow puts him at a disadvantage due to his inability to counterattack at melee range. Is that about right? All of the units that get brave weapons are naturally slow, so you would need to pass their weapon onto a unit with a higher speed base. Of the available candidates for Brave Axe and Brave Bow, Anna and Setsuna are among the fastest, but you'll want a +Spd roll on Setsuna to get the most out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, Quintessence said: Funny thing is, sophia was much more useful and easier to train than niles, with zero skills. Higher atk and more bulk, niles struggled even at doubling enemies. I'm just missing subaki's because I'm currently training spring camilla who got dragon fang from augmented sophia. Also, I got 5☆ raven yes. Huh, I found Niles easier to train. Though that's because since he attacks from 2 range, I keep him behind units that won't kill his targets so he can finish them without taking damage. And I let him do mages all by himself because high res and speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) Training them is basically Cecilia: Gunter is broken Stahl: Gunter is broken Sophia: Olivia isn't balanced Niles: Fuck this shit, thankfully Mystery Whitewings chapter is level 21 fliers, so.... Olivia lost her balance Subaki: Find any map with swords. Slap Subaki on their face. EZ Edited April 12, 2017 by JSND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmokestack Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Just now, JSND said: Subaki: Find any map with swords. Slap Subaki on their face. EZ I had the most fun training Subaki. I just autoleveled him to 34 and dumped him in a sword stratum, where everyone did 0 damage and he one-rounded them back. But alas, time flies when you're having fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) WTF Edited April 12, 2017 by JSND garbage internet connection for a one way trop towards double posting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extrasolar Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Thor Odinson said: They don't necessarily need braves if they just have really baller atk, even. Like I run desperation on Nino because with Desperation up and like, one buff she can orko Ryoma who would otherwise just oneshot her with his counter. I also run it on Minerva and she hits hard enough to take down squishier swordlords. I could put it on my 4* Laslow, since he's already got a beefy attack stat, and his defensive stats aren't too shabby either. Seems like that could make him a great nuker, since I'm not crazy about Axebreaker on him anyway. And Noontime is there to heal his HP...even if it does take a bit too long to charge. Or maybe... I'm thinking of running it on Jeorge, since I'd far prefer it over Seal Atk for a nuker like him. 7 minutes ago, MrSmokestack said: All of the units that get brave weapons are naturally slow, so you would need to pass their weapon onto a unit with a higher speed base. Of the available candidates for Brave Axe and Brave Bow, Anna and Setsuna are among the fastest, but you'll want a +Spd roll on Setsuna to get the most out of it. I do have a Setsuna, but she's not +Spd. My Anna is still sitting at 2* since I haven't yet put in the effort to train her up. I've heard that she turns out pretty well, so once I stop being lazy and actually get down to business with her I might consider sticking a Brave Axe on her, haha. Edited April 12, 2017 by Extrasolar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 1 minute ago, JSND said: Training them is basically Cecilia: Gunter is broken Stahl: Gunter is broken Sophia: Olivia is the most overpowered unit in the game Niles: Fuck this shit, thankfully Mystery Whitewings chapter is level 21 fliers, so.... Olivia again Subaki: Find any map with swords. Slap Subaki on their face. EZ So you double posted eh? Spoiler THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FOR CALLING MY BABY GURL A DUDE! YOU SCRUB!!!!!!!!!! Just now, Extrasolar said: I could put it on my 4* Laslow, since he's already got a beefy attack stat, and his defensive stats aren't too shabby either. Seems like that could make him a great nuker, since I'm not crazy about Axebreaker on him anyway. And Noontime is there to heal his HP...even if it does take a bit too long to charge. Or maybe... I'm thinking of running it on Jeorge, since I'd far prefer it over Seal Atk for a nuker like him. I do have a Setsuna, but she's not +Spd. My Anna is still sitting at 2* since I haven't yet put in the effort to train her up. I've heard that she turns out pretty well, so once I stop being lazy and actually get down to business with her I might consider sticking a Brave Axe on her, haha. Got a hinata? Or a spare bunny Lucina? Spoiler Probably not but eh, worth a shot ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extrasolar Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Arcanite said: Got a hinata? Or a spare bunny Lucina? No bunny Lucina, but I do have a Hinata. What should I do with him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Extrasolar said: I could put it on my 4* Laslow, since he's already got a beefy attack stat, and his defensive stats aren't too shabby either. Seems like that could make him a great nuker, since I'm not crazy about Axebreaker on him anyway. And Noontime is there to heal his HP...even if it does take a bit too long to charge. Well, you want someone who's both fast and strong--they don't need to be great defensively because ardent sacrifice exists, but they need to be able to double a lot of people naturally to make the most of it. I used my Minerva and Nino as examples because with LoD3 on Minerva and LoD2 on Nino they're at [52/41] and [50/43] atk/spd respectively, which doubles a shitton of people for huge damage (especially Nino with Gronnblade+ buffs) Laslow is pretty slow, so he wouldn't benefit from it much. Hinata is a great source of Fury3, and Fury3 pairs great with Desperation because the health loss provides a safe way of getting into desperation range, as well as providing more atk and spd. Edited April 12, 2017 by Thor Odinson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Just now, Extrasolar said: No bunny Lucina, but I do have a Hinata. What should I do with him? Got a nino? Or any type of fast sword user? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiran Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Went to tenth stratum with 3*lv30 Subaki because it was all reds. He killed them all by holding a choke point. Poor things never stood a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted April 12, 2017 Author Share Posted April 12, 2017 15 minutes ago, MrSmokestack said: All of the units that get brave weapons are naturally slow, so you would need to pass their weapon onto a unit with a higher speed base. Of the available candidates for Brave Axe and Brave Bow, Anna and Setsuna are among the fastest, but you'll want a +Spd roll on Setsuna to get the most out of it. Raven begs to differ. Without that axe, he's really fast. . .like, slap Life and Death on him and he'll actually double things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extrasolar Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Arcanite said: Got a nino? Or any type of fast sword user? No Nino, but I have my precious 4* Lon'qu here for fast sword users. Also an Eirika, but I heard she works better support than a straight offensive unit. 3 minutes ago, Thor Odinson said: Well, you want someone who's both fast and strong--they don't need to be great defensively because ardent sacrifice exists, but they need to be able to double a lot of people naturally to make the most of it. Would my Lon'qu be a good candidate for it? Since Speed+ is redundant on such a fast guy anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmokestack Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Just now, eclipse said: Raven begs to differ. Without that axe, he's really fast. . .like, slap Life and Death on him and he'll actually double things. Nice catch, but she doesn't have Raven. While we're at it, there's Draug too. His speed had me like, "Is this FE11? He's not a Hunter though." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Extrasolar said: No Nino, but I have my precious 4* Lon'qu here for fast sword users. Also an Eirika, but I heard she works better support than a straight offensive unit. Would my Lon'qu be a good candidate for it? Since Speed+ is redundant on such a fast guy anyway. What are Lon's bane and boon? If he's not minus speed, it's actually gonna start getting nasty. Edited April 12, 2017 by Arcanite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Extrasolar said: No Nino, but I have my precious 4* Lon'qu here for fast sword users. Also an Eirika, but I heard she works better support than a straight offensive unit. Would my Lon'qu be a good candidate for it? Since Speed+ is redundant on such a fast guy anyway. Lon'qu may not be a bad choice. His atk is a bit low on average, but that's what Fury is for. if you got +atk Lon'qu, then I'm gonna go with a definitive yes. Edited April 12, 2017 by Thor Odinson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extrasolar Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Just now, Arcanite said: What are Lon's bane and boon? If he's not plus speed, it's actually gonna start getting nasty. Whoa, guess I'm lucky. He's +Spd, -Res. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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