"Ask Fire Emblem Heroes Questions and Get Them Answered Here" Thread

[SatsumaFSoysoy]

8 hours ago, silverserpent said:

Been sitting on a spare Hector for a while now, debating on who togive Distant Counter too. Subaki would be my first choice because he's been a life saver on multiple occasions, but I'm intending to giving him Iote's Shield once Michelis comes back. Other options are:

Effie- mostly vanilla with a side of Iceberg

Azura- still vanilla

Lukas- vanilla

Ephraim- Swap tacked on

Spring!Xander- vanilla

Peri- tacked on Brash Assault since she normally doubles anyway

Then the Pegasus girls of Cordelia, Hinoka, and Catria.

I really want this on a lance user since that's the only one without a Distant Counter equivalent until we get Camus.

Distant Counter is typically used to fight mages. Subaki's Res is a bit on the terrible side, so he'll like Iote's better.

Effie and Armors in generally love Distant Counter to help with their 1 Mov. Distant Counter Effie gives up her insane Brave Lance+ Death Blow player phase, but gets really solid Enemy Phase combat. Why Iceberg though, and not Bonfire?

Lukas' Res is too bad, and he's not really one-shotting many mages. Similar story for Ephraim. Could work, but wouldn't be my first choice.

Spring Xander is pretty bad. Sure, he has good Def, but his base Atk is super low.

Peri is too frail to be using Distant Counter. Also Brash Assault is kinda bad on her imo, since she's not bulky enough to make her second hit count once she's down past half health.

None of your Pegs have good enough bulk and one-shotting capabilities to make Distant Counter worthwhile.

So basically, Effie. Also don't use Iceberg.

Edited May 27, 2017 by SatsumaFSoysoy

[Zapp Branniglenn]

I'm looking at my roster to see if anybody's got some optimized IVs. Here's what stands out:

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3* Adult Tiki +Atk/-Spd

4* Cordelia +Atk/-Res

3*Subaki +Spd/-Res

3* F!Corrin +Def/-Res

4* Chrom +Atk/-Spd

4* Olivia +Atk/-Res

4*Barst +Spd/-Res

3* Oboro +Def/-Res

3*Jagen +Atk/-Spd

3*Virion +Atk/-Res

 

Assuming I'm going for budget builds (or at least choosing to keep their native weapons), can anybody think of better combinations for them I should hold out hope for? Because I think all are great, and would love to raise them up to at least 4 star to increase my roster diversity.

[DehNutCase]

7 minutes ago, Gustavos said:

I'm looking at my roster to see if anybody's got some optimized IVs. Here's what stands out:

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3* Adult Tiki +Atk/-Spd

4* Cordelia +Atk/-Res

3*Subaki +Spd/-Res

3* F!Corrin +Def/-Res

4* Chrom +Atk/-Spd

4* Olivia +Atk/-Res

4*Barst +Spd/-Res

3* Oboro +Def/-Res

3*Jagen +Atk/-Spd

3*Virion +Atk/-Res

 

Assuming I'm going for budget builds (or at least choosing to keep their native weapons), can anybody think of better combinations for them I should hold out hope for? Because I think all are great, and would love to raise them up to at least 4 star to increase my roster diversity.

You have best Cordelia, and Cordelia also happens to be the best offensive lancer in the game at the moment. Virion suffers from heavy competition from the TKJ trio, all of whom perform better. (He's around Setsuna's level.) Also, even slow units want -hp, -def, or -res over -spd, because not being doubled by literally everything does matter. (And a minus to defense stats is the easiest to patch if necessary, via a hp seal.) Sophia and Wary Fighter users are probably the only units who want -Spd as a bane. (Even Reinhardt has a +Atk/-Res Bladetome, L&D build that murders everyone except T-Adept greens with ~30 res.)

[Lemmy]

maybe look for a +SPD Corrin (F)

[LordFrigid]

20 hours ago, Ice Dragon said:

Another round of Ice Dragon is indecisive:

I have been blessed with a [+Atk, -Def] Celica. I don't know if I want to sacrifice one of my Spring Lucinas for Swift Sparrow or if I want to use the cheaper (in terms of wallet) Life and Death.

Assuming the +10 metagame (even if I can only get Celica up to +5 at the moment), is there anything I should specifically be taking into consideration when deciding which passive A skill to give her (on both player phase and enemy phase)? Is there any important match-up she wins with one that she doesn't with the other?

 

Second question: Renewal or Swordbreaker? (And how much does it depend on if I have Ardent Sacrifice on my team?)

In case you haven't decided/are still looking for input:

Q1 

To make things easier, I'm going to pit +Atk/-Def +10 Celica (no Sacred Seal) against neutral, no-inheritance, non-staff enemies.

On offense:

No significant changes between the two, as far as I can tell. Specifically, some blues become ORKOs with Life and Death, and she picks up a loss to Odin. The most concerning LaD matchups, in my opinion, are Ike and Ryoma, whose counterattacks she survives with 6 and 7 HP, respectively. No other (non-blue) units can take +Atk and Atk-boosting inheritance and/or Sacred Seal alone and KO her on the counterattack, though some (enemy Celica, Jeorge, Lilina, Sanaki, Takumi, Tharja) can do it with buffs on top of that.

Based on what I've personally seen in the arena, most Ikes keep Heavy Blade, and most Ryomas are +Spd with Fury/Vantage and either Spd +1 or HP +3 Seals. Those two are also the most common sword users I've seen in the Arena over the past three seasons, with Eirika at a distant third. Still, it's something to keep in mind.

On defense:

The only significant change I'm seeing is vs enemy Celica, who she won't KO with Swift Sparrow. She doesn't pick up losses from non-blue enemies with Life and Death, and the enemies who come closest to KO'ing LaD Celica from neutral/no-inheritance need more than just +Atk/Atk-boosting inheritance.

My conclusion: I think you should be ok with LaD.

Q2

Are you running a Spd buff? Neutral Spd +10 LaD Celica with a Spd buff has 51 Spd (edit: shoot, forgot to add that this is when Ragnarok is active), which is a pretty good number to hit (+Spd Ryoma with Fury and the Spd +1 Seal has 46 Spd). Unless you're worried about the likes of Lucina or Lyn, she should be fine without the breaker.

Also of note: the +10 metagame sees a lot of Distant Counter swords (built-in or otherwise), and the most common green threats are Hector and mages (from my experience). So a) Ardent Sacrifice alone probably won't get her to full and b) Ardent Sacrifice can get her to over 50% for Swordbreaker, but that doesn't mean much if the Distant Counter sword unit KOs her on the counterattack.

My conclusion: Of those two, I'd go with Renewal.

~

For reference, here are the lists I was looking at for Q1.

+Atk/-Def +10 LaD Celica attacking neutral, no-inheritance, non-staff enemies (I haven't added Lloyd yet...I'll probably get around to it this weekend):

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ORKOs (89)

• Alfonse: 74 total dmg dealt (157%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Alm: 74 total dmg dealt (151%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Anna: 86 total dmg dealt (191%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Arthur: 60 total dmg dealt (115%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Barst: 54 total dmg dealt (108%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Bartre: 55 total dmg dealt (103%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Beruka: 98 total dmg dealt (196%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Boey: 53 total dmg dealt (112%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Caeda: 50 total dmg dealt (125%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Cain: 76 total dmg dealt (165%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Camilla: 80 total dmg dealt (195%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Camilla (Spr. Princess): 52 total dmg dealt (120%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Catria: 44 total dmg dealt (102%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Cecilia: 42 total dmg dealt (105%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Celica: 62 total dmg dealt (144%), 34 total dmg taken (79%).
• Cherche: 55 total dmg dealt (110%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Chrom: 84 total dmg dealt (164%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Chrom (Spr. Exalt): 51 total dmg dealt (108%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Corrin (F): 52 total dmg dealt (115%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Corrin (M): 70 total dmg dealt (152%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Draug: 82 total dmg dealt (151%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Eirika: 62 total dmg dealt (134%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Eldigan: 74 total dmg dealt (151%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Eliwood: 54 total dmg dealt (125%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Ephraim: 54 total dmg dealt (110%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Fae: 82 total dmg dealt (164%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Faye: 56 total dmg dealt (121%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Felicia: 42 total dmg dealt (110%), 19 total dmg taken (44%).
• Frederick: 57 total dmg dealt (121%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Gaius: 80 total dmg dealt (173%), 22 total dmg taken (51%).
• Gordin: 84 total dmg dealt (178%), 27 total dmg taken (62%).
• Gunter: 53 total dmg dealt (112%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Hawkeye: 82 total dmg dealt (167%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Hector: 104 total dmg dealt (185%), 27 total dmg taken (62%).
• Henry: 68 total dmg dealt (138%), 17 total dmg taken (39%).
• Hinata: 76 total dmg dealt (149%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Hinoka: 46 total dmg dealt (102%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Ike: 82 total dmg dealt (178%), 37 total dmg taken (86%).
• Jaffar: 84 total dmg dealt (186%), 28 total dmg taken (65%).
• Jakob: 70 total dmg dealt (162%), 25 total dmg taken (58%).
• Jeorge: 74 total dmg dealt (180%), 32 total dmg taken (74%).
• Julia: 68 total dmg dealt (161%), 22 total dmg taken (51%).
• Karel: 78 total dmg dealt (152%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Klein: 70 total dmg dealt (159%), 24 total dmg taken (55%).
• Laslow: 74 total dmg dealt (154%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Leo: 58 total dmg dealt (134%), 26 total dmg taken (60%).
• Lilina: 56 total dmg dealt (143%), 36 total dmg taken (83%).
• Lucina: 80 total dmg dealt (170%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Lucina (Spr. Exalt): 44 total dmg dealt (112%), 31 total dmg taken (72%).
• Lukas: 51 total dmg dealt (104%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Lyn: 60 total dmg dealt (146%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Marth: 72 total dmg dealt (160%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Matthew: 82 total dmg dealt (182%), 18 total dmg taken (41%).
• Merric: 52 total dmg dealt (100%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Michalis: 52 total dmg dealt (110%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Minerva: 54 total dmg dealt (122%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Narcian: 58 total dmg dealt (126%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Navarre: 70 total dmg dealt (152%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Niles: 50 total dmg dealt (121%), 20 total dmg taken (46%).
• Nino: 42 total dmg dealt (113%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Oboro: 46 total dmg dealt (104%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Ogma: 92 total dmg dealt (180%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Olivia: 66 total dmg dealt (165%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Palla: 66 total dmg dealt (143%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Raigh: 60 total dmg dealt (133%), 25 total dmg taken (58%).
• Raven: 49 total dmg dealt (108%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Rebecca: 64 total dmg dealt (156%), 28 total dmg taken (65%).
• Reinhardt: 44 total dmg dealt (104%), 33 total dmg taken (76%).
• Robin (F): 49 total dmg dealt (111%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Robin (M): 50 total dmg dealt (113%), 31 total dmg taken (72%).
• Roy: 58 total dmg dealt (120%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Ryoma: 76 total dmg dealt (168%), 36 total dmg taken (83%).
• Saizo: 43 total dmg dealt (107%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Sanaki: 50 total dmg dealt (135%), 34 total dmg taken (79%).
• Selena: 62 total dmg dealt (151%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Seliph: 74 total dmg dealt (132%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Setsuna: 72 total dmg dealt (156%), 25 total dmg taken (58%).
• Sharena: 50 total dmg dealt (106%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Sheena: 76 total dmg dealt (155%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Sophia: 60 total dmg dealt (136%), 29 total dmg taken (67%).
• Soren: 42 total dmg dealt (105%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Stahl: 74 total dmg dealt (151%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Takumi: 82 total dmg dealt (186%), 32 total dmg taken (74%).
• Tharja: 78 total dmg dealt (181%), 28 total dmg taken (65%).
• Tiki (FE13): 70 total dmg dealt (159%), 29 total dmg taken (67%).
• Tiki (Young): 60 total dmg dealt (133%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Titania: 54 total dmg dealt (131%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Virion: 92 total dmg dealt (184%), 30 total dmg taken (69%).
• Xander (Paragon Knight): 84 total dmg dealt (175%), 34 total dmg taken (79%).

No KO (25)

• Abel: 44 total dmg dealt (91%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Azura: 12 total dmg dealt (30%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Clair: 28 total dmg dealt (68%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Cordelia: 18 total dmg dealt (40%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Donnel: 48 total dmg dealt (92%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Effie: 24 total dmg dealt (44%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Est: 30 total dmg dealt (75%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Fir: 28 total dmg dealt (62%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Florina: 26 total dmg dealt (56%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Gwendolyn: 38 total dmg dealt (71%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Hana: 38 total dmg dealt (92%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Jagen: 18 total dmg dealt (43%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Linde: 20 total dmg dealt (51%), 42 total dmg taken (97%).
• Lon'qu: 37 total dmg dealt (75%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Mae: 34 total dmg dealt (87%), 39 total dmg taken (90%).
• Ninian: 40 total dmg dealt (86%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Nowi: 40 total dmg dealt (81%), 37 total dmg taken (86%).
• Olwen: 34 total dmg dealt (89%), 25 total dmg taken (58%).
• Peri: 28 total dmg dealt (71%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Shanna: 36 total dmg dealt (83%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Subaki: 18 total dmg dealt (40%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Sully: 12 total dmg dealt (26%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Ursula: 34 total dmg dealt (87%), 30 total dmg taken (69%).
• Xander (Spr. Prince): 42 total dmg dealt (95%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Zephiel: 40 total dmg dealt (67%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).

Losses (2)

• Kagero: 31 total dmg dealt (88%), 48 total dmg taken (111%).
• Odin: 22 total dmg dealt (46%), 50 total dmg taken (116%).

+Atk/-Def +10 SS Celica attacking neutral, no-inheritance, non-staff enemies

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ORKOs (84)

• Alfonse: 72 total dmg dealt (153%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Alm: 72 total dmg dealt (146%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Arthur: 58 total dmg dealt (111%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Barst: 53 total dmg dealt (106%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Bartre: 54 total dmg dealt (101%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Beruka: 96 total dmg dealt (192%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Boey: 52 total dmg dealt (110%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Caeda: 48 total dmg dealt (120%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Cain: 74 total dmg dealt (160%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Camilla: 78 total dmg dealt (190%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Camilla (Spr. Princess): 51 total dmg dealt (118%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Cecilia: 41 total dmg dealt (102%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Cherche: 54 total dmg dealt (108%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Chrom: 82 total dmg dealt (160%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Chrom (Spr. Exalt): 50 total dmg dealt (106%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Corrin (F): 50 total dmg dealt (111%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Corrin (M): 68 total dmg dealt (147%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Draug: 80 total dmg dealt (148%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Eirika: 60 total dmg dealt (130%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Eldigan: 72 total dmg dealt (146%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Eliwood: 52 total dmg dealt (120%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Ephraim: 52 total dmg dealt (106%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Fae: 80 total dmg dealt (160%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Faye: 54 total dmg dealt (117%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Felicia: 40 total dmg dealt (105%), 14 total dmg taken (32%).
• Frederick: 56 total dmg dealt (119%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Gaius: 78 total dmg dealt (169%), 17 total dmg taken (39%).
• Gordin: 82 total dmg dealt (174%), 22 total dmg taken (51%).
• Gunter: 52 total dmg dealt (110%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Hawkeye: 80 total dmg dealt (163%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Hector: 102 total dmg dealt (182%), 22 total dmg taken (51%).
• Henry: 66 total dmg dealt (134%), 12 total dmg taken (27%).
• Hinata: 74 total dmg dealt (145%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Ike: 80 total dmg dealt (173%), 32 total dmg taken (74%).
• Jakob: 68 total dmg dealt (158%), 20 total dmg taken (46%).
• Jeorge: 72 total dmg dealt (175%), 27 total dmg taken (62%).
• Julia: 66 total dmg dealt (157%), 17 total dmg taken (39%).
• Karel: 76 total dmg dealt (149%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Klein: 68 total dmg dealt (154%), 19 total dmg taken (44%).
• Laslow: 72 total dmg dealt (150%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Leo: 56 total dmg dealt (130%), 21 total dmg taken (48%).
• Lilina: 54 total dmg dealt (138%), 31 total dmg taken (72%).
• Lucina: 78 total dmg dealt (165%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Lucina (Spr. Exalt): 42 total dmg dealt (107%), 26 total dmg taken (60%).
• Lukas: 50 total dmg dealt (102%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Lyn: 58 total dmg dealt (141%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Marth: 70 total dmg dealt (155%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Matthew: 80 total dmg dealt (177%), 13 total dmg taken (30%).
• Merric: 102 total dmg dealt (196%), 10 total dmg taken (23%).
• Michalis: 51 total dmg dealt (108%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Minerva: 53 total dmg dealt (120%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Narcian: 56 total dmg dealt (121%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Navarre: 68 total dmg dealt (147%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Niles: 48 total dmg dealt (117%), 15 total dmg taken (34%).
• Nino: 41 total dmg dealt (110%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Oboro: 44 total dmg dealt (100%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Ogma: 90 total dmg dealt (176%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Olivia: 64 total dmg dealt (160%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Palla: 64 total dmg dealt (139%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Raigh: 58 total dmg dealt (128%), 20 total dmg taken (46%).
• Raven: 48 total dmg dealt (106%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Rebecca: 62 total dmg dealt (151%), 23 total dmg taken (53%).
• Reinhardt: 42 total dmg dealt (100%), 28 total dmg taken (65%).
• Robin (F): 48 total dmg dealt (109%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Robin (M): 48 total dmg dealt (109%), 26 total dmg taken (60%).
• Roy: 56 total dmg dealt (116%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Ryoma: 74 total dmg dealt (164%), 31 total dmg taken (72%).
• Saizo: 42 total dmg dealt (105%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Sanaki: 48 total dmg dealt (129%), 29 total dmg taken (67%).
• Selena: 60 total dmg dealt (146%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Seliph: 72 total dmg dealt (128%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Setsuna: 70 total dmg dealt (152%), 20 total dmg taken (46%).
• Sharena: 48 total dmg dealt (102%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Sheena: 74 total dmg dealt (151%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Sophia: 58 total dmg dealt (131%), 24 total dmg taken (55%).
• Soren: 41 total dmg dealt (102%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Stahl: 72 total dmg dealt (146%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Takumi: 80 total dmg dealt (181%), 27 total dmg taken (62%).
• Tharja: 76 total dmg dealt (176%), 23 total dmg taken (53%).
• Tiki (FE13): 68 total dmg dealt (154%), 24 total dmg taken (55%).
• Tiki (Young): 58 total dmg dealt (128%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Titania: 52 total dmg dealt (126%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Virion: 90 total dmg dealt (180%), 25 total dmg taken (58%).
• Xander (Paragon Knight): 82 total dmg dealt (170%), 29 total dmg taken (67%).

No KO (31)

• Abel: 42 total dmg dealt (87%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Anna: 42 total dmg dealt (93%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Azura: 12 total dmg dealt (30%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Catria: 42 total dmg dealt (97%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Celica: 30 total dmg dealt (69%), 29 total dmg taken (67%).
• Clair: 26 total dmg dealt (63%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Cordelia: 18 total dmg dealt (40%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Donnel: 46 total dmg dealt (88%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Effie: 23 total dmg dealt (42%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Est: 28 total dmg dealt (70%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Fir: 27 total dmg dealt (60%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Florina: 24 total dmg dealt (52%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Gwendolyn: 36 total dmg dealt (67%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Hana: 37 total dmg dealt (90%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Hinoka: 44 total dmg dealt (97%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Jaffar: 41 total dmg dealt (91%), 23 total dmg taken (53%).
• Jagen: 16 total dmg dealt (39%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Linde: 19 total dmg dealt (48%), 37 total dmg taken (86%).
• Lon'qu: 36 total dmg dealt (73%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Mae: 32 total dmg dealt (82%), 34 total dmg taken (79%).
• Ninian: 38 total dmg dealt (82%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Nowi: 38 total dmg dealt (77%), 32 total dmg taken (74%).
• Odin: 21 total dmg dealt (44%), 40 total dmg taken (93%).
• Olwen: 32 total dmg dealt (84%), 20 total dmg taken (46%).
• Peri: 26 total dmg dealt (66%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Shanna: 34 total dmg dealt (79%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Subaki: 18 total dmg dealt (40%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Sully: 12 total dmg dealt (26%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Ursula: 32 total dmg dealt (82%), 25 total dmg taken (58%).
• Xander (Spr. Prince): 40 total dmg dealt (90%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).
• Zephiel: 39 total dmg dealt (66%), 0 total dmg taken (0%).

Losses (1)

• Kagero: 30 total dmg dealt (85%), 43 total dmg taken (100%).

+Atk/-Def LaD Celica defending against neutral, no-inheritance, non-staff, 2-range enemies:

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ORKOs (26)

• Boey: 53 total dmg dealt (112%), 14 total dmg taken (32%).
• Camilla (Spr. Princess): 52 total dmg dealt (120%), 19 total dmg taken (44%).
• Cecilia: 42 total dmg dealt (105%), 19 total dmg taken (44%).
• Celica: 74 total dmg dealt (172%), 34 total dmg taken (79%).
• Felicia: 42 total dmg dealt (110%), 19 total dmg taken (44%).
• Gaius: 80 total dmg dealt (173%), 22 total dmg taken (51%).
• Henry: 68 total dmg dealt (138%), 17 total dmg taken (39%).
• Jaffar: 84 total dmg dealt (186%), 28 total dmg taken (65%).
• Jakob: 70 total dmg dealt (162%), 25 total dmg taken (58%).
• Jeorge: 66 total dmg dealt (160%), 32 total dmg taken (74%).
• Julia: 72 total dmg dealt (171%), 22 total dmg taken (51%).
• Leo: 58 total dmg dealt (134%), 26 total dmg taken (60%).
• Lilina: 56 total dmg dealt (143%), 36 total dmg taken (83%).
• Matthew: 82 total dmg dealt (182%), 18 total dmg taken (41%).
• Merric: 52 total dmg dealt (100%), 15 total dmg taken (34%).
• Nino: 42 total dmg dealt (113%), 19 total dmg taken (44%).
• Raigh: 60 total dmg dealt (133%), 25 total dmg taken (58%).
• Robin (F): 49 total dmg dealt (111%), 14 total dmg taken (32%).
• Robin (M): 50 total dmg dealt (113%), 31 total dmg taken (72%).
• Saizo: 43 total dmg dealt (107%), 24 total dmg taken (55%).
• Sanaki: 50 total dmg dealt (135%), 34 total dmg taken (79%).
• Setsuna: 72 total dmg dealt (156%), 25 total dmg taken (58%).
• Sophia: 48 total dmg dealt (109%), 29 total dmg taken (67%).
• Soren: 42 total dmg dealt (105%), 19 total dmg taken (44%).
• Takumi: 82 total dmg dealt (186%), 32 total dmg taken (74%).
• Virion: 92 total dmg dealt (184%), 30 total dmg taken (69%).

No KO (8)

• Faye: 0 total dmg dealt (0%), 16 total dmg taken (37%).
• Linde: 20 total dmg dealt (51%), 42 total dmg taken (97%).
• Lucina (Spr. Exalt): 22 total dmg dealt (56%), 36 total dmg taken (83%).
• Mae: 34 total dmg dealt (87%), 39 total dmg taken (90%).
• Niles: 38 total dmg dealt (92%), 20 total dmg taken (46%).
• Rebecca: 32 total dmg dealt (78%), 28 total dmg taken (65%).
• Tharja: 39 total dmg dealt (90%), 28 total dmg taken (65%).
• Ursula: 34 total dmg dealt (87%), 37 total dmg taken (86%).

Losses (6)

• Gordin: 0 total dmg dealt (0%), 54 total dmg taken (125%).
• Kagero: 0 total dmg dealt (0%), 48 total dmg taken (111%).
• Klein: 0 total dmg dealt (0%), 60 total dmg taken (139%).
• Odin: 22 total dmg dealt (46%), 50 total dmg taken (116%).
• Olwen: 0 total dmg dealt (0%), 50 total dmg taken (116%).
• Reinhardt: 0 total dmg dealt (0%), 66 total dmg taken (153%).

+Atk/-Def SS Celica defending against neutral, no-inheritance, non-staff, 2-range enemies:

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ORKOs (16)

• Boey: 47 total dmg dealt (100%), 9 total dmg taken (20%).
• Camilla (Spr. Princess): 46 total dmg dealt (106%), 14 total dmg taken (32%).
• Cecilia: 72 total dmg dealt (180%), 14 total dmg taken (32%).
• Henry: 58 total dmg dealt (118%), 12 total dmg taken (27%).
• Jakob: 60 total dmg dealt (139%), 20 total dmg taken (46%).
• Jeorge: 56 total dmg dealt (136%), 27 total dmg taken (62%).
• Julia: 60 total dmg dealt (142%), 17 total dmg taken (39%).
• Leo: 48 total dmg dealt (111%), 21 total dmg taken (48%).
• Lilina: 46 total dmg dealt (117%), 31 total dmg taken (72%).
• Merric: 92 total dmg dealt (176%), 10 total dmg taken (23%).
• Raigh: 50 total dmg dealt (111%), 20 total dmg taken (46%).
• Robin (F): 86 total dmg dealt (195%), 9 total dmg taken (20%).
• Sanaki: 40 total dmg dealt (108%), 29 total dmg taken (67%).
• Soren: 72 total dmg dealt (180%), 14 total dmg taken (32%).
• Takumi: 72 total dmg dealt (163%), 27 total dmg taken (62%).
• Virion: 82 total dmg dealt (164%), 25 total dmg taken (58%).

No KO (20)

• Celica: 32 total dmg dealt (74%), 29 total dmg taken (67%).
• Faye: 0 total dmg dealt (0%), 11 total dmg taken (25%).
• Felicia: 16 total dmg dealt (42%), 14 total dmg taken (32%).
• Gaius: 35 total dmg dealt (76%), 17 total dmg taken (39%).
• Jaffar: 37 total dmg dealt (82%), 23 total dmg taken (53%).
• Linde: 16 total dmg dealt (41%), 37 total dmg taken (86%).
• Lucina (Spr. Exalt): 18 total dmg dealt (46%), 31 total dmg taken (72%).
• Mae: 26 total dmg dealt (66%), 34 total dmg taken (79%).
• Matthew: 36 total dmg dealt (80%), 13 total dmg taken (30%).
• Niles: 14 total dmg dealt (34%), 15 total dmg taken (34%).
• Nino: 36 total dmg dealt (97%), 14 total dmg taken (32%).
• Odin: 18 total dmg dealt (38%), 40 total dmg taken (93%).
• Olwen: 31 total dmg dealt (81%), 40 total dmg taken (93%).
• Rebecca: 27 total dmg dealt (65%), 23 total dmg taken (53%).
• Robin (M): 42 total dmg dealt (95%), 26 total dmg taken (60%).
• Saizo: 38 total dmg dealt (95%), 19 total dmg taken (44%).
• Setsuna: 31 total dmg dealt (67%), 20 total dmg taken (46%).
• Sophia: 38 total dmg dealt (86%), 24 total dmg taken (55%).
• Tharja: 34 total dmg dealt (79%), 23 total dmg taken (53%).
• Ursula: 26 total dmg dealt (66%), 32 total dmg taken (74%).

Losses (4)

• Gordin: 0 total dmg dealt (0%), 44 total dmg taken (102%).
• Kagero: 0 total dmg dealt (0%), 43 total dmg taken (100%).
• Klein: 0 total dmg dealt (0%), 50 total dmg taken (116%).
• Reinhardt: 0 total dmg dealt (0%), 56 total dmg taken (130%).

 

Edited May 27, 2017 by LordFrigid

[Ice Dragon]

15 minutes ago, LordFrigid said:

In case you haven't decided/are still looking for input:

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Wow, thanks!

I hadn't yet decided, so this is helpful. Even though I can run my own calcs, going through the data gets rather overwhelming, especially when the results are so similar, and my spreadsheet is really falling behind (I haven't had the chance to update it past Spring Festival).

I'll stick with Life and Death and Renewal, then. (Time to burn another 20,000 feathers on another Hana.)

[silverserpent]

@SatsumaFSoysoy Thanks, as for the Iceberg, it was because I didn't have a spare Robin laying around that I could sacrifice. I was hoping I could use another unit besides another armor, but if that's the best option, I will trust your advice!

[eclipse]

6 hours ago, Gustavos said:

I'm looking at my roster to see if anybody's got some optimized IVs. Here's what stands out:

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3* Adult Tiki +Atk/-Spd

4* Cordelia +Atk/-Res

3*Subaki +Spd/-Res

3* F!Corrin +Def/-Res

4* Chrom +Atk/-Spd

4* Olivia +Atk/-Res

4*Barst +Spd/-Res

3* Oboro +Def/-Res

3*Jagen +Atk/-Spd

3*Virion +Atk/-Res

 

Assuming I'm going for budget builds (or at least choosing to keep their native weapons), can anybody think of better combinations for them I should hold out hope for? Because I think all are great, and would love to raise them up to at least 4 star to increase my roster diversity.

That Adult Tiki is about as good as she will be - 23 base Speed is one of the lowest in the game, so she doesn't mind the bane.  Quick Riposte will allow her to double anyway.

[SatsumaFSoysoy]

16 minutes ago, eclipse said:

That Adult Tiki is about as good as she will be - 23 base Speed is one of the lowest in the game, so she doesn't mind the bane.  Quick Riposte will allow her to double anyway.

I hear she actually does want that 3 Spd, or she'll get quadded by Brave Bows and whatnot. I can't remember the specifics though. Meanwhile, even though her Res isn't super low, she's gonna get doubled by most mages regardless of Bane/Boon anyway, so her Res doesn't matter.

[eclipse]

17 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said:

I hear she actually does want that 3 Spd, or she'll get quadded by Brave Bows and whatnot. I can't remember the specifics though. Meanwhile, even though her Res isn't super low, she's gonna get doubled by most mages regardless of Bane/Boon anyway, so her Res doesn't matter.

Turns out it really doesn't matter.  Even with Brave Bow+, an Atk boon, and Death Blow 3, the only "new" kills are Takumi and Jeorge - two guys that would've doubled her without her Speed bane.

If it's THAT big of a deal, use something like Bowbreaker. IMO, it's not.

Edited May 27, 2017 by eclipse

[SatsumaFSoysoy]

Just now, eclipse said:

Turns out it really doesn't matter.  Even with Brave Bow+, an Atk boon, and Death Blow 3, the only "new" kills are Takumi and Jeorge - two guys that would've doubled her without her Speed bane.

Huh. I definitely remember hearing about not doing -Spd, but maybe it wasn't because of that then. I'm not too familiar with all the nuances of inheritance matchups.

[eclipse]

Just now, SatsumaFSoysoy said:

Huh. I definitely remember hearing about not doing -Spd, but maybe it wasn't because of that then. I'm not too familiar with all the nuances of inheritance matchups.

Wait, Jeorge wouldn't double.  However, that's a TON of investment for an edge case, hence why I think it's overblown.  It's probably a bit more significant with procs, but even then, I'd sooner run Bowbreaker than look for a different bane.

[Moezao]

Hey guys. I haven't been playing for long and I'd like your advice on who to put on my team for PvP.

I only haven't spent any money yet, but I guess I got lucky with my draws.

My 5*:

Ike

Hector

Azura

Robin(M)

Hana

Roy

 

Right now I use Ike, Hector, Azura and Robin.

Robin kinda sucks though. Who should I be on the look out for to take his place? And which skills should I inherit? The only one I did was Vantage 3 to Ike.

My goal isn't to have the best team possible, just have a good one so I can have some fun.

Thanks for the help!

[SatsumaFSoysoy]

3 minutes ago, eclipse said:

Wait, Jeorge wouldn't double.  However, that's a TON of investment for an edge case, hence why I think it's overblown.  It's probably a bit more significant with procs, but even then, I'd sooner run Bowbreaker than look for a different bane.

Yeah, +Atk -Spd is still pretty great, since it's not -Def or -Atk. Definitely not a dealbreaker.

1 minute ago, Moezao said:

Hey guys. I haven't been playing for long and I'd like your advice on who to put on my team for PvP.

I only haven't spent any money yet, but I guess I got lucky with my draws.

My 5*:

Ike

Hector

Azura

Robin(M)

Hana

Roy

 

Right now I use Ike, Hector, Azura and Robin.

Robin kinda sucks though. Who should I be on the look out for to take his place? And which skills should I inherit? The only one I did was Vantage 3 to Ike.

My goal isn't to have the best team possible, just have a good one so I can have some fun.

Thanks for the help!

Robin is pretty good once you get him some inherited skills, most importantly Swordbreaker. With Triangle Adept, he can also perform better against Red Mages.

[Moezao]

7 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said:

Robin is pretty good once you get him some inherited skills, most importantly Swordbreaker. With Triangle Adept, he can also perform better against Red Mages.

Does triangle adept also work with colorless? I'm not sure my Robin can be saved, he's a +Def/-Atk lol

 

[Rafiel's Aria]

6 minutes ago, Moezao said:

Hey guys. I haven't been playing for long and I'd like your advice on who to put on my team for PvP.

I only haven't spent any money yet, but I guess I got lucky with my draws.

My 5*:

Ike

Hector

Azura

Robin(M)

Hana

Roy

 

Right now I use Ike, Hector, Azura and Robin.

Robin kinda sucks though. Who should I be on the look out for to take his place? And which skills should I inherit? The only one I did was Vantage 3 to Ike.

My goal isn't to have the best team possible, just have a good one so I can have some fun.

Thanks for the help!

I second the comment about M. Robin! He's easily one of my best units with Triangle Adept, even with -DEF. I can park him in front of sword users and they'll do anywhere between 0 and 8 damage. Same with bows and daggers. As far as blue mages go, there's not really anyone else that works exactly like he does. He's been an important part of my team from the start. Someone like Nowi might be able to fill a similar niche, but she won't have the same advantage over colorless enemies.

Hana is a pretty great unit too. I used her a few weeks ago. Even with SI, I had a blast with her. But if you can get her a Brave Sword+, she pretty much destroys everything.

[Ice Dragon]

1 minute ago, Moezao said:

Does triangle adept also work with colorless? I'm not sure my Robin can be saved, he's a +Def/-Atk lol

Triangle Adept works whenever you have weapon triangle advantage or disadvantage.

[SatsumaFSoysoy]

2 minutes ago, Moezao said:

Does triangle adept also work with colorless? I'm not sure my Robin can be saved, he's a +Def/-Atk lol

 

Yep, as long as he keeps Blaraven. -Atk is kinda rough. Still better than your other options though, if you ask me.

[bethany81707]

3 minutes ago, Moezao said:

Does triangle adept also work with colorless? I'm not sure my Robin can be saved, he's a +Def/-Atk lol

 

That's my Robin's nature, too, and he served me well.

Let's ignore the fact I use his female twin now.

[Moezao]

2 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said:

Yep, as long as he keeps Blaraven. -Atk is kinda rough. Still better than your other options though, if you ask me.

I have enough feathers to upgrade a 4* and orbs to do a few summons. Who should I look for?

[SatsumaFSoysoy]

3 minutes ago, Moezao said:

I have enough feathers to upgrade a 4* and orbs to do a few summons. Who should I look for?

Well, in the current banners, I'd say Celica? Though it might be worthwhile to wait for the new banner that's coming out in about two days.

[Moezao]

14 minutes ago, Rafiel's Aria said:

I second the comment about M. Robin! He's easily one of my best units with Triangle Adept, even with -DEF. I can park him in front of sword users and they'll do anywhere between 0 and 8 damage. Same with bows and daggers. As far as blue mages go, there's not really anyone else that works exactly like he does. He's been an important part of my team from the start. Someone like Nowi might be able to fill a similar niche, but she won't have the same advantage over colorless enemies.

Hana is a pretty great unit too. I used her a few weeks ago. Even with SI, I had a blast with her. But if you can get her a Brave Sword+, she pretty much destroys everything.

 

Hana is such a Glass Cannon, it's tough to keep her alive.

 

Perhaps I'll give Robin a try. Should I sacrifice Roy for WTA? He seems to be a poor man's Ike.

[Moezao]

5 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said:

Well, in the current banners, I'd say Celica? Though it might be worthwhile to wait for the new banner that's coming out in about two days.

Yeah, on the current banners I don't see any being worth it.

Most of my problems are with Effie and Nukes right now. Especially red mages, since my Robin isn't very useful against them as it is. 

[Rafiel's Aria]

Just now, Moezao said:

 

Hana is such a Glass Cannon, it's tough to keep her alive.

 

Perhaps I'll give Robin a try. Should I sacrifice Roy for WTA? He seems to be a poor man's Ike.

Hana definitely needs protection. Playing with glass canons means having to manipulate your positions with assist skills. But I think it's a lot of fun. Both Nino and Linde are glass canons and they're SUPER powerhouses. But glass canons don't work with everyone's play style. 

While I have no personal attachment to Roy, I try not to sacrifice 5 stars unless I have a duplicate readily available. You never know when they might be useful. Roy is special because he gets Triangle Adept 3 at 4 stars, but Selena can at least give you Triangle Adept 1 and 2 at 4 stars if you have her. She's a more common pull than Roy at least.

 

1 minute ago, Moezao said:

Yeah, on the current banners I don't see any being worth it.

Most of my problems are with Effie and Nukes right now. Especially red mages, since my Robin isn't very useful against them as it is. 

I'd recommend a green mage for dealing with Effie and Lukas. As I mentioned above, Nino is a glass canon but AMAZING. Cecilia is also pretty good, but I think she needs some buffs to really shine. However, Cecilia is a free unit that you can get in daily rotations!

[SatsumaFSoysoy]

Just now, Moezao said:

Yeah, on the current banners I don't see any being worth it.

Most of my problems are with Effie and Nukes right now. Especially red mages, since my Robin isn't very useful against them as it is. 

Celica is actually pretty good as a standalone offensive mage. It's just preferable to have two Blues than two Reds, but if you do get her she's better out of the box than Robin without inheritance.

Triangle Adept will fix Robin's performance against Red Mages. Hector should be able to deal with Effie, shouldn't he?