Lightcosmo Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 23 minutes ago, Armagon said: More like lame attack hahahahah gotten. Lmao. Oof, right where it hurts, too! Honestly though, the time attack being an afterthought/extra didn't do it for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonFlames Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Acacia Sgt said: V doesn't have Slimification Metal Slimes. Which is bad since Slimification-Capable slimes won't run away as they call enough numbers to morph. That said, they also have higher stats precisely to avoid being beaten all before they can, so likely you wouldn't be able to beat enough Metal Slimes before they morph. Then again, Metal King Slime. Though it can also flee. Ah, dang it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, DragonFlames said: Ah, dang it! Well, you can still encounter Metal King Slimes as regular enemies. Though not until much later in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonFlames Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Party-wide insta-kill. ... Party-wide. Insta-kill. ... ..... *wrathful Draggy noises* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightcosmo Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 12 minutes ago, DragonFlames said: Party-wide insta-kill. ... Party-wide. Insta-kill. ... ..... *wrathful Draggy noises* Titan Stamp, anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, lightcosmo said: Titan Stamp, anyone? Reeeeeeeeee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonFlames Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Just now, lightcosmo said: Titan Stamp, anyone? Nope. Just a little thing called "Thwack" F***. That. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interdimensional Observer Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Armagon said: As for my main complaint about Future Connected, Gael'gar sucks so much. Genuianly the worst villain in all of Xeno and it's not even a contest imo. He has his own tier at the bottom. Worse than Luxaar? Yeowch! (Although Lux' has a fig leaf excuse of being but a mountain to climb, behind which the Promised Sequeland and its True Villainest of Villains lay.) 33 minutes ago, DragonFlames said: Party-wide insta-kill. ... Party-wide. Insta-kill. ... ..... *wrathful Draggy noises* Sometimes you get those bad rolls with Thwack/Kathwack. I feel for ya. It feels less accurate than SMT Hama/Mudo, but those you can more easily totally block out. Edited July 31, 2020 by Interdimensional Observer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonFlames Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: Sometimes you get those bad rolls with Thwack/Kathwack. I feel for ya. It feels less accurate than SMT Hama/Mudo, but those you can more easily totally block out. Yep. It's especially bad, because DQV doesn't have any revival spells or items to speak of (or at least I don't have any). Bottom line is, I am now sitting on a half-dead support party and I'm completely lost with no way back or forward. I am... NOT a happy Draggy right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interdimensional Observer Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Just now, DragonFlames said: It's especially bad, because DQV doesn't have any revival spells or items to speak of (or at least I don't have any). Yggdrasil Leaves tend to be rare in DQ. As for resurrection spells, Zing and Kazing exist, and I know the main character eventually learns the former. Zing has an annoying 50% success rate though, Kazing is guaranteed thankfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Man, that has to be quite bad luck. The accuracy of Thwack/Kathwack is infamous. IV spawned a whole meme around it and Kiryl. Oh, there are revival spells and items. You just don't have access to them yet. I think. Warning, though, the low tier revival spell, Zing... can miss. IT's also infamous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Just now, Interdimensional Observer said: Yggdrasil Leaves tend to be rare in DQ. As for resurrection spells, Zing and Kazing exist, and I know the main character eventually learns the former. Zing has an annoying 50% success rate though, Kazing is guaranteed thankfully. Wouldn't call them rare. It's just that most of the time you're forced to only carry one of them. At least, from the easy source if there's any. Otherwise get lucky there's some as chest items or item drops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caster Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Acacia Sgt said: Wouldn't call them rare. It's just that most of the time you're forced to only carry one of them. At least, from the easy source if there's any. Otherwise get lucky there's some as chest items or item drops. Can't you buy them from the casino in V? And doesn't the casino also have a Resurrection staff in V? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonFlames Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Interdimensional Observer said: Yggdrasil Leaves tend to be rare in DQ. Should have bought some of those at the casino. Smh 1 minute ago, Interdimensional Observer said: As for resurrection spells, Zing and Kazing exist, and I know the main character eventually learns the former. Zing has an annoying 50% success rate though, Kazing is guaranteed thankfully. Well, that's just amazing. /s But thank you for informing me that at least they do exist. Just now, Acacia Sgt said: Man, that has to be quite bad luck. The accuracy of Thwack/Kathwack is infamous. IV spawned a whole meme around it and Kiryl. I know of this, actually! Caster showed me a video about it from Dragon Quest Heroes, I think it was. I thought it was pretty funny. 2 minutes ago, Acacia Sgt said: Oh, there are revival spells and items. You just don't have access to them yet. I think. Warning, though, the low tier revival spell, Zing... can miss. IT's also infamous. Good to know that they exist, at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Just now, Caster said: Can't you buy them from the casino in V? And doesn't the casino also have a Resurrection staff in V? Oh yeah, Leaves are casino prizes. It does, but it casts Zing... so not really worth it, I'd think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caster Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Acacia Sgt said: Oh yeah, Leaves are casino prizes. It does, but it casts Zing... so not really worth it, I'd think. I suppose... it... could work as like, a hail mary in case of a really awful situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, DragonFlames said: I know of this, actually! Caster showed me a video about it from Dragon Quest Heroes, I think it was. I thought it was pretty funny. It is, heh. It goes back to the original NES version. Party members were always AI controlled. So, there was a system in place where a character would learn that a spell wasn't working on certain enemies if it failed to connect a few times in a row, thus they would stop casting it towards certain enemies. Problem is, Kiryl was infamous on first trying Thwack/Kathwack. Even on bosses, who are always immune to it. So very often he'd just end up wasting his turns until the AI system learned that, no, it wasn't working. Thus, the jokes and memes began. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonFlames Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Acacia Sgt said: It is, heh. It goes back to the original NES version. Party members were always AI controlled. So, there was a system in place where a character would learn that a spell wasn't working on certain enemies if it failed to connect a few times in a row, thus they would stop casting it towards certain enemies. Problem is, Kiryl was infamous on first trying Thwack/Kathwack. Even on bosses, who are always immune to it. So very often he'd just end up wasting his turns until the AI system learned that, no, it wasn't working. Thus, the jokes and memes began. XD He's like Walter in SMTIV fighting the Minotaurus. Oh boy, the memories... XD --- I got back to the town I came from, at least, so now it's mass resurrection time at the church. I need a break for now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armagon Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Acacia Sgt said: I'm guessing that's a Switch only feature, since I'm pretty sure it's not there in the 3DS version. Yeah, it is. I thought it was also on 3DS but i confirmed it wasn't. 55 minutes ago, DragonFlames said: Party-wide insta-kill. ... Party-wide. Insta-kill. ... ..... *wrathful Draggy noises* 41 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: Worse than Luxaar? Yeowch! Yeah. Hell, Gael'gar is even worse than Gort. What sucks is that Gael'gar had potential but Future Connected devoted zero time to him. 37 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: Yggdrasil Leaves tend to be rare in DQ. As for resurrection spells, Zing and Kazing exist, and I know the main character eventually learns the former. Zing has an annoying 50% success rate though, Kazing is guaranteed thankfully. But......but why tho? Why would they make a revival spell only have a % of working? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caster Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Armagon said: But......but why tho? Why would they make a revival spell only have a % of working? I'm not defending it, but I'm pretty sure it also worked the same for some lower level status removal effects in earthbound, as well, specifically for revival spells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Just now, Armagon said: But......but why tho? Why would they make a revival spell only have a % of working? When in doubt, blame Yuji Horii's love for gambling. No, seriously, that may probably be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonFlames Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Just now, Armagon said: Accurate, I'd say. 1 minute ago, Armagon said: But......but why tho? Why would they make a revival spell only have a % of working? "Fun" was not in Squaresoft/Square Enix' vocabulary that day. And neither was "good game design". --- Anyhow, I went back to Fate/Extra for the time being. Since I'm almost done with that game, I'll give it some priority for now. After that, I'll tackle Trails in the Sky. DQV will be continued on the side of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Just now, DragonFlames said: "Fun" was not in Squaresoft/Square Enix' vocabulary that day. And neither was "good game design". Except that was Enix. And by today Zing still has a chance to miss mostly because DQ is meant to be "traditional"/grandfather clause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armagon Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, Caster said: I'm not defending it, but I'm pretty sure it also worked the same for some lower level status removal effects in earthbound, as well, specifically for revival spells. All this did is make me not wanna play EarthBound. Sorry San-i mean, Ness. 6 minutes ago, Acacia Sgt said: When in doubt, blame Yuji Horii's love for gambling. No, seriously, that may probably be it. Pain. 5 minutes ago, DragonFlames said: "Fun" was not in Squaresoft/Square Enix' vocabulary that day. And neither was "good game design". Yeah healing spells of any kind should not have a % chance to miss. Isn't that right, Thracia 776? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightcosmo Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 11 minutes ago, Armagon said: Yeah. Hell, Gael'gar is even worse than Gort. What's wrong with Gort? I thought he was okay, for the time he was on screen that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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