Armagon Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 12 minutes ago, lightcosmo said: By just standing there, Yuri is a 100% badass. He's so badass, he doesn't let Estelle have a cut-in during their Special. It's weird tho, normally both characters have a special cut-in during their special but for Yuri/Estelle, only Yuri gets it. 4 minutes ago, Benice said: Curses, I am told that that's the depressing one. Eh, it's not that depressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interdimensional Observer Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Acacia Sgt said: The OP was... well, you may try to guess since the thread is gone. To be fair, they had made a few weird Serious Discussion threads that had gotten locked last year. This was the final straw I suppose. 1 hour ago, Armagon said: Ok @Interdimensional Observer i'll admit This probably would hit better if i had played through the EF games first. Probably hit better indeed. The first time they met was... interesting. 😆 Whats that red thing in the background I see? Alteisen? But why? The Alteisen Nacht is blue most of the time. And the actual Alteisen could squish everyone in PxZ. Looking at the big thing in the ground, I don't know the Fluxes of NxC look like, but the design of that portal -perhaps a pure coincidence by virtue of transdimensional holes having few design options- looks like the Cross Gates in EF.: Sanger Zonvolt The Sword That Smites (or "Cleaves" as unofficial translations prefer) Evil never appears in EF just to make that clear. Although his seiyu does I believe. If you're interested in him, you'd have to hop over to Original Generations proper, or SRW Alpha Gaiden, which is where he made his first debut -albeit not the Sanger in PxZ, that is OG Sanger. Wrap my soul in sweet music, its majesty still heals me in sad straights. 1 hour ago, Armagon said: Frank West just took several erotic photos of Kaguya as she was giving exposition. Journalism 101. That wouldn't entirely be out of place in EF actually. 1 hour ago, Sooks said: Well yes, but you said you were mad at yourself. If you want to scream in rage at the vandals knocking at the gates of rome, I don’t blame you. "None of that is my fault" I thought mean that you were referring to the political happenings that were making me depressed and anhedonic, which I can't do anything about. I know better than to say depression is a choice, but I do think I could do more to address my recurring bouts of it. My mistake!😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benice Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Just now, Armagon said: Eh, it's not that depressing. Ah... Well, I've got a longthy journey ahead of me to get to Sky 3 anyhow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) Ah, Sänger. Oh man, I still remember my clashes with him in Alpha Gaiden... Edited June 9, 2021 by Acacia Sgt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interdimensional Observer Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Since you've posted Sanger's chronological first theme, and I've posted his second, might as well toss in his third.: Why does the somewhere past his 30s German samurai get three personal battle themes? Thats ageist favoritism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armagon Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: Whats that red thing in the background I see? Alteisen? But why? The Alteisen Nacht is blue most of the time. And the actual Alteisen could squish everyone in PxZ. You referring to the red mech? According to the Crosspedia, it's a "W.R Heavy-Red". There is also a gold variant. Speaking of mechs, the Phantom was the boss of this map. And it was so big that it was very easy for it to touch the ground during a combo and put up it's barrier again. It also did two Specials in a row and killed the God Eater folks. 5 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: Looking at the big thing in the ground, I don't know the Fluxes of NxC look like, but the design of that portal -perhaps a pure coincidence by virtue of transdimensional holes having few design options- looks like the Cross Gates in EF.: Actually, that's exactly what it is. It turns blue when someone is crossing over, is that how it works in EF as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armagon Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 It seems Estelle is completely caught off guard by Kaguya's bunker busters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: Why does the somewhere past his 30s German samurai get three personal battle themes? Thats ageist favoritism. Gotta thank him first showing up as an enemy, then next time we see him he's playable thus it merit a second theme, then for his next appearance he receives an upgrade thus merit a third theme. Fun fact. The original OG 1 was released before Alpha 2 did. So after being an enemy in @G, they made him playable for OG1 (though it made sense, if you saw that Alpha manga where he shows up alongside Egret and Tetsuya Tsurugi from Great Mazinger, and the background already stablished about him from @G). So his second theme first appeared in OG1. Then it showed up in Alpha 2, where he got his third theme, before that one being ported back to the OGverse in OG 2. Edited June 9, 2021 by Acacia Sgt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interdimensional Observer Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, Armagon said: You referring to the red mech? According to the Crosspedia, it's a "W.R Heavy-Red". There is also a gold variant. Ah, must be a knockoff they invented for the occasion because they didn't want to actually include the real thing and have to explain it. And this lets them mass produce it easier. 8 minutes ago, Armagon said: It turns blue when someone is crossing over, is that how it works in EF as well? Blue is the default color in EF, it gets bigger to signal when someone is in the process of crossing over. And purple is the other hue they can take for the above reason. 12 minutes ago, Armagon said: Speaking of mechs, the Phantom was the boss of this map. And it was so big that it was very easy for it to touch the ground during a combo and put up it's barrier again. It also did two Specials in a row and killed the God Eater folks. So something like this? 16 minutes ago, Armagon said: It seems Estelle is completely caught off guard by Kaguya's bunker busters. Again, I am not surprised. 13 minutes ago, Acacia Sgt said: Fun fact. The original OG 1 was released before Alpha 2 did. So after being an enemy in AG, they made him playable for OG1 (though it made sense, if you saw that Alpha manga where he shows up alongside Egret and Tetsuruya Tsurugi from Great Mazinger, and the background already stablished about him from AG). So his second theme first appeared in OG1. Then it showed up in Alpha 2, where he got his third theme, before that one being ported back to the OGverse in OG 2. So they didn't have to suddenly invent reasons for Alpha 2 to make him a hero in the Alphaverse sans Earth Cradle stuff, they'd already laid the groundwork for that. Neat to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: So they didn't have to suddenly invent reasons for Alpha 2 to make him a hero in the Alphaverse sans Earth Cradle stuff, they'd already laid the groundwork for that. Neat to know. I mean, Gaiden alone had stablished he was being brainwashed by the Machine Cells. If he was still human instead of having become like Magus, is because the will of Sophia Nate was still strong to avoid fully converting Sänger. Even the Machinery Children questioned Magus about why she wasn't doing the full conversion on him. On the subject... ah, got hit with nostalgia and went to look for my old posts when I first fought against him... On 11/17/2016 at 9:15 PM, Acacia Sgt said: Well, after putting some Choban Armors on the Venus A, I restarted Stage 24. This had the side-effect of now the enemies gunning for Dancougar, but this time around I made it to Dante to take him down in the last turn. Dante himself isn't the problem. He only has 15400 HP, and doesn't have high Armor either. The only problems are that he doesn't move, so I have to move towards him. Then, during the Player Phase he Defends against all attack, thus reducing their damage to half. ANd last, Dante has After-Image, so that means a 50% chance of dodging regardless of his Evasion. Well, all in all, this skill point is as good as mine. A plus on this is that Dante won't run away at low HP. And was able to beat him and rout on the last turn. Hah, got the skill point! Regardless, Dante will comment his job here is done, now that "he" is coming, and flees. The Argama detects something approaching at high speed. And it's... oh... He comes. It's none other than ZENGAR ZOMBOLT, THE SWORD OF MAGUS! He mentions we're intruding on Magus's turf, and thus, NONE SHALL PASS. Seems this was Dante's plan all along. He wanted to lure Tetsuya to this area so he would then have to deal with Zengar. Well... Zengar... this is gonna suck... So, Zengar's mecha, the Thurdgelmir... this thing is insane. Who knows what's his HP, but it has 290 EN. It comes with the standard HP Regen L and EN Regen L that pretty much any end-tier boss enemy has. It can deflect physical attacks, and Zengar has the Sword-Cut Skill to use it. It only has two weapons, but they're dangerous. Drill Boost Knuckle, which has infinite uses, and 1-9 range. Then, the dangerous Zankantou sword. Don't be fooled, despite being a sword, it has 1-5 range. It has a 60 EN cost, but it can't be used until Zengar has 120 Will. Speaking of, Zengar gain 2 Will when hit (if I'm not mistaken), so that shortens the time needed for him to use the Zankantou. Zengar himself is no slouch. In addition to Sword-Cut, he has Support, Leadership, and... Guts. ZENGAR HAS FREAKING GUTS. That's it. Enough. I'll continue... whenever! But not today... On 11/22/2016 at 1:26 PM, Acacia Sgt said: Just wait for Maunder Minimun, haha. Alright, I've prolonged this long enough... Time to face Sänger/Zengar... On 11/22/2016 at 2:05 PM, Acacia Sgt said: I think if there's one good thing here is that Thrudgelmir has poor evade. To the point even the Argama can't miss... okay, I have the Argama equipped with the +30% Hit part, but still... Now I wonder how much evade would Guts actually give once it activates... On 11/22/2016 at 4:16 PM, Acacia Sgt said: Haha, got distracted. Anyway, seems it was indeed a trigger ending the battle. I managed to damage Thrudgelmir to half HP before it happened. On 11/22/2016 at 5:07 PM, Acacia Sgt said: So, Zengar simply ceases fighting and leaves. And then the mysterious mecha from before (the one which showed up at that Mesozoic Forest once everyone left) appears again. Its pilot introduces himself as Egret, and states he works for Magus, like Zengar. He explains Magus is an Innocent in charge of the area, and Zengar guards the place, hence his attack, but now he was ordered to cease. He states Magus wants to see them, though the party is understandibly wary. Egret however brings up they have some people with them they may recognize, and thus, they accept. They follow him to what is indeed an Innocent Dome, though they're still wary of heading inside, but a group still ends up going inside to meet Magus. Inside, turns out their comrades are the rest of the La Gians: Yanlong, Tyutti, and Wendy. Lune seems to still be MIA, though. And that's it for Stage 24. Have Bazaar access again, but again there's nothing worthwhile. Well, there's a Gunblaster, but at this point I only really buy better Walker Machines models, if only in case I'm forced to have them participating in a stage. In terms of MS's, I have more than enough and they're less likely to be forced. Well, who knows. And that's it. But at least Zengar wasn't as big a problem I thought he would be. Ah, memory lane... Edited June 9, 2021 by Acacia Sgt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Interdimensional Observer said: "None of that is my fault" I thought mean that you were referring to the political happenings that were making me depressed and anhedonic, which I can't do anything about. I know better than to say depression is a choice, but I do think I could do more to address my recurring bouts of it. My mistake!😅 Oh, no, that’s understandable. If anything it not being your fault is the problem, I mean sure it would suck if it was your fault, but you would theoretically be able to change things for the better although in America’s current political climate those shifting the government in the direction you’re afraid of didn’t care in the first place, so that’s completely improbable, but being stuck on a sinking ship, one being “sunk” on purpose, can be very frustrating, yeah. 1 hour ago, Benice said: Ah... Well, I've got a longthy journey ahead of me to get to Sky 3 anyhow. Don’t force yourself, though. I mean I thought you didn’t enjoy FC much the first time, and why do you think you’re playing the game wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Ah, how I wish I could get Alpha 2 and 3 so I can finish the tetralogy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Weather is a meanie :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 And I also remember this post, when fighting him in Chapter 40... On 5/15/2017 at 4:27 PM, Acacia Sgt said: I'm actually shaking, hahahahahaha... so anxious, hehehehe... Zengar... he's almost same as always. HP and EN Regen L, 1-9 range Drill Boost Knuckle, 1-5 range Zankantou. Guts, Sword-Cut, 290 EN, ???? HP likely to be already in the 50K range... Even the map BGM has switched to Sword of Magus, a slower version of its Battle theme counterpart, but still equally... awesome... I'm positioning my units while letting Zengar come to me. I don't know if he'll run away at X HP left or not... but I'll try to take him down... Hahahahaha, so unnerving... I can feel my heartbeat... Man, that battle had me hyped. XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armagon Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Interdimensional Observer said: And purple is the other hue they can take for the above reason. That makes sense. The rifts in PxZ do appear to be pretty unstable in general. 1 hour ago, Interdimensional Observer said: So something like this? It wasn't this attack but yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benice Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 40 minutes ago, Sooks said: mean I thought you didn’t enjoy FC much the first time, Just because I said I can't think of anything I like about a game doesn't mean I don't enjoy it It takes a lot for me to dislike a game. Other than FE. Trails is far from earning my ire, perhaps aside from me not being able to partake in the praise for it. 41 minutes ago, Sooks said: why do you think you’re playing the game wrong? I am almost 30 hours in. ...And I'm in chapter 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Benice said: I am almost 30 hours in. ...And I'm in chapter 1. Wtf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Ah man, I also found my posts against him in Chapter 43 of the Hard/Canon path: Spoiler On 7/27/2017 at 2:07 PM, Acacia Sgt said: Player Phase! Three turns left! It's time... Time to force open the Gate of Magus... On 7/27/2017 at 2:14 PM, Acacia Sgt said: Okay, opening move. Mazinkaiser with Fire Blaster supported by the Turn A's Beam Drive Unit. Since Kouji has little to noting SP left, I just had him cast Alert (Really? Kouji with Alert? Surprised me too.) Did a litle over 8000... close to 9000 HP damage. It took a noticeable chunk of the Thrudgelmir's HP bar, so thankfully, it looks like it doesn't have that much HP. Also, a good thing that Zengar had those bodyguards, is that being forced to Support Attack so many times it depleted the mecha's EN, to the point it can't even use the Zankantou on Player Phase, even with EN Regen L. On 7/27/2017 at 2:19 PM, Acacia Sgt said: Now comes a Hot-Blood powered Stoner Sunshine from Shin Getter Robo. Also had it with Alert (Hayato having it makes sense). Enough damage to send it to the yellow, aka, less than half HP left. And Seishin time! Zengar is determined to got give up, and casts Guts, Alert, Strike, Hot-Blood, and Valour. No Guard? Great! I can continue the onslaught this turn... kinda... On 7/27/2017 at 2:20 PM, Acacia Sgt said: And thus, I have Kou use Alert (and Accelerate to get in range), and use the GP-03 Dendronium's Beam Rifle, removing Zengar's Alert and Hot-Blood. Strike is still a problem, but Alert overrides it, anyway. On 7/27/2017 at 2:24 PM, Acacia Sgt said: So with Alert and Hot-Blood, I have Loran unleashe the Moonlight Butterfly. Interestingly, the BGM overrides the Thrudgelmir's. Does a little over 9K damage. On 7/27/2017 at 2:31 PM, Acacia Sgt said: Now it was the turn of the Walker Gallier's Boomergan Ideom, following by the Hi-Nu's Fin Funnels. Zengar's HP is still above half... On 7/27/2017 at 2:34 PM, Acacia Sgt said: Aha! The Zeta Gundam's Hyper Mega Launcher supported by the Double X's G-Bits send it over the half point. And Zengar casts Seishin again. Soul, Alert, Striek, Valour, Valour... wait, no Guts!? I'm not going to waste that chance. Unfortunately, I don't think I could take out the remaining HP without triggering a third Seishin wave. LEt's see... First, to remove Soul and Alert, so I had Ryusei for that, casting Alert and use the R-1 Kai's GT-Revolver. On 7/27/2017 at 2:42 PM, Acacia Sgt said: And now with the V2 Gundam's Long Range Cannon, and Double X's G-Bits, I got him to HP in the red zone! But Zengar is willing to fight to the death! Guts, Soul, Alert, Strike, Guard, Valour, Valour. GEEZ, I'M SHAKING IN EXCITEMENT Okay, he finally used Guard. I'm going to remove Soul+Alert so it won't bother me in the Enemy Phase, then pass turn. I'll take him down in the second-to-last. On 7/27/2017 at 2:53 PM, Acacia Sgt said: Okay, second to last turn. Starting now with a FireBlaster+StonerSunshine combo. Wow, Shin Getter's EN got low enough that I can' use the Stoner Sunshine this turn. Hahahaha. Well, time for a Shin Shine Spark supported by the GP-03's Mega Beam Cannon. Followed this with Combattler V's Choudenji Spin supported by the VF-11B's Homing Missile. On 7/27/2017 at 3:06 PM, Acacia Sgt said: After a Hyper Mega Launcher + G-Bits combo, Zengar's HP is in the red! Which also means Guts kicks in. You know, considering things, it's a good thing Zengar has Guts instead of Prevail, even though Guts is technically useless since Thrudgelmir is more to tank than dodge, and the HP Regen means it won't stay active for long. Prevail would've made him much, MUCH, more tougher to take down. And most likely for another reason... On 7/27/2017 at 3:24 PM, Acacia Sgt said: As luck would have it, at low enough HP (how much exactly? don't know, all I know is that it could be as low as 5K HP from 55K!) an alternate event triggers, which is NOT what I want. Zengar still had around 9K HP left. For the coup de grace, I send Voltes V to do the Choudenji Ball V no Gikiri, supported by Moonlight Butterfly. Good thing, since Zengar survived the first attack with about 700 HP left. Which means that... YES, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I DID IT. I BEAT ZENGAR!!! Got the skill point, and... On 7/27/2017 at 3:50 PM, Acacia Sgt said: With the Thrudgelmir defeated, it's not long before the Machine Cells begin to repair it. However, the beat-up actually knocked Zengar out of their control. Once he realizes this, he's now willing to go against the Ancestors. He knows it won't make up for everything, but he's willing to escort the heroes deep within the Cradle to stop Magus. And thus, he leaves the map. If he hadn't been defeated in this chapter and back in Chapter 40, or his HP had got low enough without defeating him, he'd die instead after coming back to his senses (and most likely this is his default fate in the Medium and Easy paths as well). As you can guess, this last secret was recruiting Zengar. Of course, he's not joining just yet. Well, I have a turn and a half to rout the remaining Belgelmirs if I want to. I'll try to do so. But that's for another day. This was too much... too much for one day... hahaha... Man, I had so much fun... I should play through Alpha 1 and Gaiden again one of these days. Maybe trying out the routes splits I didn't took or so. Fill up the Character and Mecha databases and stuff. Though, looking back at those pages... I was making this posts and practically no one responded to them. There was at least one person back then who did had something to say of my SRW posts, but just him. The rest seemed to just ignore them. Just like now most of my gaming posts still are. ... well, not enough depression to sour my nostalgia. It happens. Ah well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armagon Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, Benice said: am almost 30 hours in. ...And I'm in chapter 1. What are you doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 16 minutes ago, Benice said: I am almost 30 hours in. ...And I'm in chapter 1. I'm genuinely curious. How? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Time for sheep arc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) It looks so wrong... yet so funny at the same time, hahaha... I like how she went overboard with the pink. Not just in the Falcon Knight uniform and the saddle, but the pegasus itself also has pink fur and feathers. XD Sonya taught her well. Edited June 9, 2021 by Acacia Sgt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 On that subject, I've found those two fun to write about. ... honestly, lately I have been really tempted to share the bulk of my writing works, just to get more than the one person who is commenting about them, but ah... I don't know. I still get the heebie jeebies to show what I spent my time writing for the most... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidereal Wraith Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 9 hours ago, Saint Rubenio said: Go on, post that image of your beloved. I dare you. I will ruin him forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rubenio Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 6 hours ago, Sooks said: @Saint Rubenio I forgot to tell you while I was debating resetting, but Hide contents after choosing to side with the king I won both the first and second battle, and before the second battle I chose to have archers behind the barricades. No playable characters died, though over 100 clansmen died because Rugga set up an ambush and I didn’t choose to spent my time making defenses, causing it to be very successful (22 fighters died and a small amount of varl as well). I did reload an old save with the intent to side with Rugga, but the entire Varl race sided with the king and racial genocide wasn’t on the itinerary so I noped out of that choice. I mean losing Ludin sucked, but I could have dealt with it, but Hakon and literally every other varl? No thank you. I did play through those battles anyway, curious to see if it seemed like I could keep Hakon and company, and like an idiot I accidentally continued the dialogue into the start of chapter 15 meaning it overrode my save at that chapter I was planning to continue with, meaning I had to redo the battles on the king’s side (won both and made the archer choice again). O O F Whoopsie. 6 hours ago, Sooks said: Spoiler The internet revealed a really cool detail to me, I don’t know if you already know this but the side the varl fight on depends on whether or not Ludin survives. If he survives, the king is obviously glad and is like “it’ll be a right squeeze, but it’s the least I can do for you saving my son!” and let’s them in, so Hakon accepts and they fight with the king, because preserving their dwindling race is their number one priority. If Ludin dies, however, the king blames the varl because they are who he was with for a good portion of the games and there’s a high chance he died on their watch (though if he died at Lundar I don’t think he technically did?) and the varl side with Rugga, because they need the safety of the town for their survival to be insured and once again, preserving their race is their number one priority. That’s really cool, you were right that this isn’t Telltale. Oh yeah, I did know about that. Was going to tell you myself after you got past the choice. Spoiler Siding with Rugga or the king depends more on Ludin's status than anything else, when you get down to it. That's why an eventual Rugga run's going to sting. I don't wanna kill off Ludin, man... but I might just have to. And yeah, I did tell you this isn't Telltale at all. And would you believe this is actually a rather disappointing choice? Yeah, this. Unfortunately, for tbs3 they ran out of time and budget a bit, so they had to railroad both paths to the same overall point. Still, some battles and dialogue change, and you lose Hakon and the varl if you side against him (though not Ludin and Yrsa, funnily enough, they return to your team at the start of 3), so it's not like it has absolutely no effect. 6 hours ago, Sooks said: Spoiler Now that that’s definitely cleared up, I have two questions: Is it safe to tell me what you did yet? If so please do. When you said “hoo boy” in response to me siding with Rugga and then “oh dear” when I switch two seconds after, you… were just messing with me because you like watching me internally struggle over choices and wanted to add to that, didn’t you? Spoiler Yeah I was just messing with you, haha. I did the same thing as you, down to picking Rugga and then getting cold feet. The way the choices are phrased is pretty smart. 4 hours ago, Sooks said: @Saint Rubenio I’m playing chapter 15. Hide contents This chapter has Iver as its little leader icon instead of Bolverk? One of the best characters and units gets a chapter? Yes! They’re attacking some guy at a tower, who seems to be a Valka, and he hints that Juno might be the cause of all of this. I had Iver ask her about it and she didn’t answer. You know, I’ve devised a new method for trusting characters, if I feel like they can be trusted, then that means they can’t be. So many traitors in this game. Speaking of “traitors” (this word might be a stretch here) Bolverk bursts down the door with Bellower’s body in a beserk state. This doesn’t look good. Iver now has to fight Bolverk. I am very lucky that I have been investing into Iver, especially since I’ve been investing in Bolverk. If you’ve been using Bolverk but not Iver this fight would be… difficult. Bolverk seems upset about the fact that Iver killed Raze, either a Sundr or an important dredge, back in the day and talks about people being trapped “below” best be lets out a roar mid-battle where you can see what looks like the ghost of bellower, so it’s obvious that he’s been possessed. I hope I can save him, unlike Nikels. I mean, Bolverk is still alive (Nikels is awesome, I just felt like saying that). “Bellowed? Seems like I’ll get payback for my arm after all!” Iver says, like he didn’t deal the final blow to Bellower. Uhh, Bolverk just regens armor and strength whenever I attack, I’m not sure how I’m supposed to beat him like that. Apparently I’m supposed to “ride Zefr’s wind”, whatever that means. I took that to mean I was supposed to attack Bolverk with all the extra move, so I did… and I took strength damage for doing that, and then Bolverk got to move. I have… no clue how I was supposed to win that at all. Spoiler You were supposed to push him into one of Eyvind's thunder strikes (you could tell because of the icon on the ground similar to Oddleif's skill... that you never saw, of course). That would've diminished Bellower's influence on him, stopping his regeneration. Don't feel too bad, though. I lost in my first run too. And yeah, Nikels is great. There's even a little character arc of sorts with him, where if you make certain decisions, Bolverk ends up deciding to consider accepting him as a Raven in Manaharr. Though, of course, by the time they make it there... 4 hours ago, Sooks said: Spoiler After that I get a longish, cool cutscene about the fate of the world in regards to our actions and such, while seeing plot important stuff like the serpent and Aberrang and… that’s it? The game just ends? That was… anti-climactic. Because of that cutscene, with Bolverk lying in the ruins of the tower, I’m guessing the outcome of that battle barely changes at all if you win, can you confirm that? Well anyway, that’s the chapter done, sorry you get a short read this time. Spoiler If Bolverk loses the battle, Juno and Iver have enough time to toss Bellower's body into the ocean, so he cannot be revived by Bolverk. This has... one very specific effect in the following game. 4 hours ago, Sooks said: Oh and you wanted to know how many guys were in Rooks’s caravan, well I had 150 (I think) varls, and a hundred something of both clansmen and fighters. Although I didn’t have 100 something clansmen after Rugga’s ambush… but anyway, I don’t know if that’s too vague for you, but that’s what I have. Clear enough. Thanks. 4 hours ago, Sooks said: Well that’s Banner Saga 2 finished. My opinion on it really is the same as the first game, all the compliments are still there, and I don’t have anything major to complain about (or anything at all really, I mean the last optional training session from the spoiler caravan sucked, I guess). I can’t even really “compare’ it to the first game because it really does just feel like the second part of the first game. My opinion still stands, teeheers, I absolutely recommend Banner Saga, it is very good. I concur. 4 hours ago, Sooks said: I’m more so proud of the fact that I had one death. 1! What do you mean Sigbjorn? Shh, that choice wasn’t very fair. Just like me! It's a different death. I'd argue worse, because Griss is really cool. But oh well. 4 hours ago, Sooks said: Hey Ruben, while I have your attention Hide contents you mentioned quite a bit that you got tens of deaths playing through Banner Saga, but in the first game you got 2/3 (depends on if you want to count Yrsa, I mean how much does the “not really dead” stuff weigh on your decision making ability?) but one of those was from a part in the story where someone absolutely had to die, so it’s really more like 1/2. In this game, the only death you mentioned was Gudmundr, so does that mean all of the surprises and hard choices that increased your death count came in Banner Saga 3? Regardless, was Gudmundr actually your only death? Yeah, tbs3 is where everything goes to shit, and I mean that in a good way. Like 70% of my deaths happened in that game. Here's hoping you do better. 1 hour ago, WraithReborn said: I can't quote this properply for some reason You know, I do think his armor looks better when it's purple. Anyway, there. Now it's ruined forever. 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