Interdimensional Observer Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Solomon Space Island: Spoiler So it’s time for him to die. The family of wickedness destroys itself, Char probably felt that very befitting. -I will not post a screenshot of where Daddy Zabi literally compared his middle son(?) to 1930s German Dictator. Sieg Zeon! and Spacenoid supremacy ain’t the reason, this is why people call Zeon “Space ****s”. I’m in disbelief that this moment would be written into the plot.🤦♂️🤦♀️ The old usurper has some genuine intellect still, well, in an SRW context at least. I thought I killed you.🤨 No matter, Amuro, solo them into their graves this time. (Hamon looks like she retreated yet again though, maybe she’s off to take some youth serum and dye her hair.) Amuro also reached Melee Ace doing so (Shinobu got Kill Ace too on this map). The one allied NPC ship deployed three GMs and two Balls, what kind of fighting force is that? They all die quickly to the Rick Doms. The battleship survives like two more turns, dealing some good damage in the process. The AI is weird fighting battleships using S/M-sized units, they tend to cycle their attacks against them Control-Weapons-Engines, they don’t concentrate on a single component until it's destroyed. Not all that many enemies actually. Lot of battleships, some generic, which means I wasted a few turns waiting for Bright to capture all of them, instead of taking out the big guy to win. And when I say “big”… “Big Zam”, so primitive a name. Much the same in design too. It’s bulky. Why not call it DaiZaku, when it The MAP was annoying, and it never got off Solomon (I might’ve approached it too fast), still not an issue. Dozle’s flavor of Zabi adds some variety for the family. I can see Char wanting him dead, but not being particularly incensed by Dozle as a person, I’m not sure anyone would be. I doubt his sister and political brother saw him as a real threat. The game was dropping death flags for Sleggar, but this game doesn’t sacrifice him. I know SRW 3 or 4 made it optional. Doubled Money > Super Repair Kits (which mean no funds at all either) to me, every time. The Federation is going to have a lot of used battleships by the time this game is over. I immediately jumped into the second half of the battle of Solomon. Degwin said nothing worth noting as he got a little patricidal radiation sickness. The results of the underwhelming-visually Solar Ray. A suicide attack? The Iron Lady of Zeon is one degree Celsius colder than the British one (I know she wasn't universally-loved in the UK). There’s the Gelgoog! And Char’s girl, and his Giganos whipping boy with his whipping boys, and the Gadisword duo again. I tried having Amuro solo most of Char’s grunts, though it was a little hairy.😐 Later had him pull back west and Char, Lalah, Meio, and S&S were dispatched by the whole team, the latter two with Luck/Bless applied to double their 15k combined net worth. S&S both have MAPs, which I completely forgot about, yet thankfully no one got hit by the one use of them. By one definition, "cruiser" fits the White Base. The oldest definition of the word to be precise.🧐 Meaning- a ship intended for and capable of sustaining independent missions over a prolonged time period. A cruiser in this meaning has no defined size or tonnage, it's about purpose. Every SRW battleship qualifies as a cruiser in this way. Another Newtype Twin Contact, but Lalah lives this time. I thought I sensed her death. Third time's the charm? Fairey, look away, these two are about to cluck. -Akimi had no convo with Sally. "Interstellar Alliance"? What’s Zovorg doing here!? Must refer to various license aliens united against Gadisword? ...While Amuro tried to solo, everyone else yet again headed towards Solomon and took out the ships and grunts of Kycilia (Bright reached Ranged Ace). Lady Zabi and her 33k HP ship was defeated last. -This isn’t how it’s supposed to happen Char! (I read her bio ofc.) What does this mean for the fate of Zeon?🤔 Solomon is fully won, despite the death ray. The tides in the One Year War have decisively turned? There’s the egomaniacal lunatic language you started spouting IIRC right before using the Ozone thingy in J! Good luck ya nut!😝 This is 19 scenarios in... how many days?😅 As wonderful to play as it was watching the snow gently fall today (probably the last for this season for me, I'd like a little more.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 9 hours ago, Interdimensional Observer said: We're not quite done with Gundam yet. Makes sense. War in the Pocket ends in Christmas UC 0079, merely a week before the end of the OYW, which happened in December 31. The 08th Team ends first, chronologically speaking. 9 hours ago, Interdimensional Observer said: Heliopolis? Prepare the lifeboats. Well, this one almost got nuked, rather than gassed. 9 hours ago, Interdimensional Observer said: An RX-78 third unit? Wasn't aware of this. Yep. Wasn't prominent in the anime since Amuro kept to the RX-87-2 to the end, but in the novel Amuro actually uses it. 9 hours ago, Interdimensional Observer said: Is he joking, or is he being serious? Hard to say when they don't exactly look like good people. I did like the post-battle scene where Bernie tries to lie to make his dying commander contented, that was touching. A bit of both? Cyclops Team were overall decent-ish people, from what I recall. Such is the barbarity of war. Both sides have their extremists... but also those who only want to survive and get by. 9 hours ago, Interdimensional Observer said: I'm returning this to the factory, they forgot to paint my model RX-78, I want a refund! A semi novel-exclusive, a good one. Mhm. Never appeared proper in the anime, but was mentioned to exist, and was actually used for spare parts for the RX-78-2. 9 hours ago, Interdimensional Observer said: I mean she probably cried sometime later about what happened to the nice boy she knew that never came back. But short term? Is it a bad thing she never knew what she did? Hmm, never did, huh. I guess it means Al never told her... likely to spare her feelings, yep. 9 hours ago, Interdimensional Observer said: -Did you sleep-fight Amuro? That's not what happened. What my brother thinks of Blazing Blade's desert chapter with NPC Pent as Amuro there, pft. 9 hours ago, Interdimensional Observer said: The use of the name "Solomon" made me do a double-check. That it later got reused for Stardust Memory left me confused. But that spinoff isn't in GC, so it's off to conclude another almost as soon as it began. Ahaha, yes. Solomon, later renamed Konpei, first shows up in the original anime. 9 hours ago, Interdimensional Observer said: 😏 Use of GC's exclusive mechanic for this secret was neat, and easy. Chris then retreated with Bernie and left Amuro to solo the east, Akimi the south, and everyone else cleared the west. Ah, ain't SRW grand? 9 hours ago, Interdimensional Observer said: Mobile Suit Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket was a two-mission storyline here, despite it's male protag's comrades quietly showing up slightly sooner. Even so, I got enough of a sense of the short story that reading the bios, I think I can have some truer, felt understanding of it? I liked it. And this is the most faithful it ever got in SRW. Most of the time the whole "NT-1 Alex being developed at Side 6 and the Cyclops Team is sent to take it, else the Zeons nuke the colony" isn't used, or is pre-game, so instead Chris and Bernie meet up (again) much later, where a simple Convince command is all it takes to recruit Bernie. Well, Alpha 1 stretched it out as Bernie joins way into the lategame with a more complex recruitment process, but I guess in its own way it was giving War in the Pocket some spotlight. 51 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: -I will not post a screenshot of where Daddy Zabi literally compared his middle son(?) to 1930s German Dictator. Sieg Zeon! and Spacenoid supremacy ain’t the reason, this is why people call Zeon “Space ****s”. I’m in disbelief that this moment would be written into the plot.🤦♂️🤦♀️ I guess Tomino wasn't being subtle there. 51 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: The old usurper has some genuine intellect still, well, in an SRW context at least. Now you can see why it was easy to have the Zabis join DC in the Classicverse. Not that Degwin himself ever showed up in person, but you can infer he was the one to talk with Bian. 51 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: I thought I killed you.🤨 "I've been defeated! But I can't fall here..." Well, in SRW it's easier since escape pods exist. 51 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: Dozle’s flavor of Zabi adds some variety for the family. I can see Char wanting him dead, but not being particularly incensed by Dozle as a person, I’m not sure anyone would be. I doubt his sister and political brother saw him as a real threat. Ah, Dozle. Among the siblings his legacy would be the one to survive the longest, due to Mineva. 51 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: The game was dropping death flags for Sleggar, but this game doesn’t sacrifice him. I know SRW 3 or 4 made it optional. Also Alpha 1 it was optional. But yeah, he definitely died in the anime. 51 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: The results of the underwhelming-visually Solar Ray. I remember how SRW 2 had a stage with the Solar Ray. You had to destroy a few solar panels to disrupt its power supply. 51 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: By one definition, "cruiser" fits the White Base. The oldest definition of the word to be precise.🧐 Meaning- a ship intended for and capable of sustaining independent missions over a prolonged time period. A cruiser in this meaning has no defined size or tonnage, it's about purpose. Every SRW battleship qualifies as a cruiser in this way. So in games with multiple ones, it makes them a fleet of cruisers? I know Z1 had like, ten battleships. V comes closest, from what I recall. 51 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: Fairey, look away, these two are about to cluck. -Akimi had no convo with Sally. Let me guess, it'd be the other way around with the male protagonist? XD 51 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: "Interstellar Alliance"? What’s Zovorg doing here!? Must refer to various license aliens united against Gadisword? Pesky, pesky, alien alliances. 51 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: -This isn’t how it’s supposed to happen Char! (I read her bio ofc.) What does this mean for the fate of Zeon?🤔 Yeah, where was the bazooka!? Well, in Gundam canon, Haman would revive Zeon as Neo Zeon, using Dozle's daughter as figurehead. So, considering Gundam ZZ is in the game... Also, fun fact. In Alpha 1, you can reach a ceasefire with Kycilla, when she's just about the only Zabi left (aside from Mineva). Though later Alpha games would put it as a non-canon outcome. 51 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: There’s the egomaniacal lunatic language you started spouting IIRC right before using the Ozone thingy in J! Good luck ya nut!😝 And now he gets to join the actual aliens he's suppose to! 51 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: This is 19 scenarios in... how many days?😅 As wonderful to play as it was watching the snow gently fall today (probably the last for this season for me, I'd like a little more.) Hahaha, if not for the fact I only play in the weekends, I'd be the same with SRW V. On Scenario 14 in just... four days of playing? Since I am doing like 3-4 maps per day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 I'd say, every time I've voted for CYL it has almost always been the same character all days. I think only for CYL1 I did a split vote with Marth and Caeda. Right now? All votes to Ivy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Acacia Sgt Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) Hmm, I'll get my party to level 55, then see if I try again against Cloud of Darkness. Considering EXP needed to level up is already over 70K per level, and enemy formations give at most 3-4K per battle... yeah, this is taking a while, heh. Edited January 20 by Acacia Sgt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 One thing for sure. I can understand to a degree the marathon it originally was in the NES version. Having to do all this in one sitting... sheesh, glad for quicksaving... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) OMG!!! AHAHAHAHAHA, I DID IT!!! I defeated the Cloud of Darkness! YES!!! You know, it would've been neat if, after the Curse of the Wyrm sequence, we could've had the option to bring one of the guest party members for the World of Darkness. Sure, they'd all need to be upgraded properly (like Sara at least to use Aeroga and Curaga, for example), but it would've been cool. On that subject, the Amur guy still looks so out of place, heh. Okay, still got the Iron Giant to defeat, fill up the last entries of the Bestiary (just missing the colored dragons, which I can easily find in the ??? Dungeon... easy to find, not so easy to defeat, go figure), and max out all jobs on all characters... yeah, that will take a while. I think I'll be doing it as an ocasional thing as I move on to play something else, then. Edited January 20 by Acacia Sgt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interdimensional Observer Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) Into the Breach: Spoiler What does this mean?😮 Change of enemy! Gadisword has allies, and presumably enemies, can't have a war if everyone is on one side. Good riddance! I hate tapeworms! (I think the first two lines from Shapiro were spoken before Fairey, but I felt like organizing them here afterwards into this his moment.) Soooo... he betrayed, but he only knew of this with the help of Gadisword, without them, Shapiro might not have become aware of Muge and thus not betrayed, at least not so soon. Not as wild as getting a Valsion Custom (the GC fan translation prefer leaving that kanji untranslated as "Kai" as an aside), but done with a slight SRW twist, if you look hard enough. The shadowed woman from GC's opening. Her personality is "polite outside of combat veeeeeeeery bloodthirsty lady in battle". Her mech is described as having mobility and firepower, with both long- and short-ranged weapons, the overall design being laden with contradictory desires and a challenge for almost anyone to pilot. Yet it seems Herluga came up with the design himself, for this the leader of Gadisword's Imperial Guard. She has a MAP, and that 2000 Armor does mean common weaponry isn't very effective on her, you need to bust out the best stuff. Oh, and this.: With the war on Zeon paused, Aina finally joined. The GM Sniper was given to the White Base after Jaburo, it's another 08th-originated unit, so fitting for Aina. You can actually sell her Apsalus II (I didn't), but this is basically the same thing weapon-wise, just grounded. Bernie joined too with no fanfare, nor unit, you don't actually get his Zaku II Custom. I took this overly cautiously again. Amuro soloed the Muge forces (they're all Muge here minus Reggie) to the east, except for the battleships; everyone else sat on Solomon and the southern forces come to them. Gihren you far-right idiot! Now is the time for the Solar Ray! I know you fried ants with a magnifying glass as a child! I didn't really know what to think Muge would use. I assumed animal motifs b/c that's what Dancouga and Shapiro's unit use, but not bioweapons. The ant head is creepy and I demand a giant shoe to squish it. I didn't bother capturing the ships, except for one. I've enough SP and units with Luck/Bless to get the same amount of funds, and destroying the body is much faster than the limbs. If you've enough Luck, the only reason to capture becomes the item conversions (or use in the case of some smaller units.) Now isn't the time to laugh Hayato!😝 A second battleship at last!😄 Don't you dare crap out on me!🔫 I know what happened in Impact.🤨 The White Base is left behind. Goodbye Gundam, hello Dancouga and who knows what. With whiplash speed, the heroes are now venturing to the ends of the galaxy. 2 hours ago, Acacia Sgt said: Well, this one almost got nuked, rather than gassed. Gassed? J had Heliopolis literally falling apart from the fighting inside and out. Gas in a confined environment is more insidious, but there's a Titanic-esque tragedy to a space colony breaking into pieces, the glass ceiling shattered and air leaking away as it comes apart. 2 hours ago, Acacia Sgt said: Hmm, never did, huh. I guess it means Al never told her... likely to spare her feelings, yep. He was dramatically endearing during the sub-scenario. Seeing the child desperately pray to God, making all the promises he possibly could to abandon all his naughty child behavior, just for Bernie to live. 2 hours ago, Acacia Sgt said: Now you can see why it was easy to have the Zabis join DC in the Classicverse. Not that Degwin himself ever showed up in person, but you can infer he was the one to talk with Bian. Yup. Definitely can see it now.😄 Despite being a murderer-usurper, at least in his old age (which can sometimes dull one's geopolitical hunger), Degwin sounds decently reasonable. However, if you become a viper, you give birth to more vipers. For whatever major evil he was, he bred the cause of his own demise. -Shame Classicverse being so old is thin on the writing. 2 hours ago, Acacia Sgt said: Ah, Dozle. Among the siblings his legacy would be the one to survive the longest, due to Mineva. There's an irony in this. Considering it seems like he was probably the least concerned about legacy. 2 hours ago, Acacia Sgt said: So in games with multiple ones, it makes them a fleet of cruisers? I know Z1 had like, ten battleships. V comes closest, from what I recall. Not entirely sure, but I don't see why not. As long as the ships can function independently on a long mission. Ten might be pushing it though? But again we're talking a definition stemming from the 1600s. 2 hours ago, Acacia Sgt said: Let me guess, it'd be the other way around with the male protagonist? XD I'll tell you sometime next year.😆 35 minutes ago, Acacia Sgt said: OMG!!! AHAHAHAHAHA, I DID IT!!! I defeated the Cloud of Darkness! YES!!! Congrats!😃 I know what you had to go through to get that done.😉 Edited January 20 by Interdimensional Observer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 6 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: Soooo... he betrayed, but he only knew of this with the help of Gadisword, without them, Shapiro might not have become aware of Muge and thus not betrayed, at least not so soon. Not as wild as getting a Valsion Custom (the GC fan translation prefer leaving that kanji untranslated as "Kai" as an aside), but done with a slight SRW twist, if you look hard enough. So wild he got to use a Valsion Custom/Kai, and be a Final Boss, back in Classicverse. 6 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: Gihren you far-right idiot! Now is the time for the Solar Ray! I know you fried ants with a magnifying glass as a child! I didn't really know what to think Muge would use. I assumed animal motifs b/c that's what Dancouga and Shapiro's unit use, but not bioweapons. The ant head is creepy and I demand a giant shoe to squish it. Well, that's an idea alright. As a side note, the OYW effectively coming to a premature end because of sudden aliens... they were totally retreading that plot point from Alpha 1, pretty much. Though at least there Shapiro waited a bit longer to do his betrayal. 6 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: Don't you dare crap out on me!🔫 I know what happened in Impact.🤨 The dragon shaped battleship... it only had a marginal role in J, showing up for one of Dancougar's attacks. But now you get to actually use it here! 6 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: The White Base is left behind. Goodbye Gundam, hello Dancouga and who knows what. With whiplash speed, the heroes are now venturing to the ends of the galaxy. I guess it won't accommodate just yet multiple battleships, huh. 6 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: Gassed? J had Heliopolis literally falling apart from the fighting inside and out. Gas in a confined environment is more insidious, but there's a Titanic-esque tragedy to a space colony breaking into pieces, the glass ceiling shattered and air leaking away as it comes apart. Oh lol, I mixed it up with Elpis! 6 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: He was dramatically endearing during the sub-scenario. Seeing the child desperately pray to God, making all the promises he possibly could to abandon all his naughty child behavior, just for Bernie to live. Oh man, if you were to watch the OVAs, it's brutal that part... and really, all the way to the end. 6 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: Yup. Definitely can see it now.😄 Despite being a murderer-usurper, at least in his old age (which can sometimes dull one's geopolitical hunger), Degwin sounds decently reasonable. However, if you become a viper, you give birth to more vipers. For whatever major evil he was, he bred the cause of his own demise. -Shame Classicverse being so old is thin on the writing. That's certainly true. I guess it's a mercy to him that he didn't live to see his legacy fall part completely. 6 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: There's an irony in this. Considering it seems like he was probably the least concerned about legacy. I guess it could be a karmic thing. 6 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: Congrats!😃 I know what you had to go through to get that done.😉 Thanks! And yeah, it was totally worth it after everything. I think the game finally decided to throw me a bone, since there was no sudden turn order reversal between CoD and my Devout. Also, after she began using Particle Beam, there was a turn where she instead went back to physically attacking twice. It was so weird, it had to be deliberate. Since if she had used Particle Beam again it would've been yet another party wipe out, as my Devout acted after her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuardianSing Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) There is something truly funny about this guy being the big boss of this chapter, in a map where all of the castle bosses took huge chunks out of my military's health, only to be decapitated instantly by Ayra with an armor slayer before he even had the chance to counter attack. I too wish I could do certain things more than once. Like voting. Also with the way these instructions are phrased I suppose I might as well ask now, is there a system in this game that determines one's lover or is it just predetermine. Is it like the GBA games where they just have to stand next to each other for several weeks of in game time. All this is telling me is that the characters in FE who can double are on army supplied meth. What is a king but just another lord with a particularly big army that the other lords around him must pay taxes to. Because you are, now pay your taxes to the biggest army. Edited January 20 by GuardianSing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 2 minutes ago, GuardianSing said: Also with the way these instructions are phrased I suppose I might as well ask now, is there a system in this game that determines one's lover or is it just predetermine. Is it like the GBA games where they just have to stand next to each other for several weeks of in game time. Yes, it's the latter. Info here: https://serenesforest.net/genealogy-of-the-holy-war/characters/love-growth/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eltosian Kadath Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 10 hours ago, Shrimpy -Limited Edition- said: Yh, seems like the creator of the RR wanted to have the same experience on the map, even if Ike & Lucina already change quite alot.... I am playing Cat & mouse to try and seperate them but they seem intent on following each other xD I am disappointed in the mod for this laziness. 9 hours ago, Shrimpy -Limited Edition- said: The RR is making me realize quite well why some emblems are not fought outside their paralogues lol To be fair, you were effectively facing a double emblem this time, as they just added the most dangerous power of Micaiah on top of another emblem. Good work making it through that. 24 minutes ago, GuardianSing said: There is something truly funny about this guy being the big boss of this chapter, in a map where all of the castle bosses took huge chunks out of my military's health, only to be decapitated instantly by Ayra with an armor slayer before he even had the chance to counter attack. Chaggall being a bit incompetent is just gameplay being true to the story. 25 minutes ago, GuardianSing said: Also with the way these instructions are phrased I suppose I might as well ask now, is there a system in this game that determines one's lover or is it just predetermine. Is it like the GBA games where they just have to stand next to each other for several weeks of in game time. There are two predetermined pairings, Sigurd+Dierdre and Ethlyn+Quan, the others work kind of similarly to the GBA supports, but converstaions tend to have a notable impact on it as well. To get more into the weeds, Each eligible male and female pair have a starting love points (later recruits, and pairing pushed a little bit by the game tend to get fairly high starting love points), they also have an innate love growth rate that increase every turn the two are on the same map together, as well as +5 bonus for every turn they end adjacent, but love points stop accumulating after turn 50 of a map to prevent abuse. Additionally there are a lot of talk conversations that can increase love points, and some of those can be quite extreme. Finally there is a well known bug often called the Jealousy mechanic where if you have an eligible male wait next to an eligible female, who herself is adjacent another eligable female, the love points are given to one of the two women based on a priority list. Marriages are kind of important in Genealogy of the Holy war, and if you want some advice for pairing for power or story reasons, feel free to ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightBow Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 44 minutes ago, GuardianSing said: Also with the way these instructions are phrased I suppose I might as well ask now, is there a system in this game that determines one's lover or is it just predetermine. Is it like the GBA games where they just have to stand next to each other for several weeks of in game time. It's more complicated than that. They do get lover points when standing next to each other, but they also get points just from coexisting on the same map. That passive bonus is different for each possible couple. So you can influence romances by putting people next to each other, but that only allows you to steer the process, not really control it. That passive bonus basically ensures that eventually people will fall in love no matter what you do. Talk events between male and female characters will also usually result in more lover points. ...which is basically the opposite how it works on the GBA, come to think of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armagon Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 When I become President of the world, I will abolish date formatting discourse but this one did get a chuckle out of me. 8 hours ago, GuardianSing said: Is it like the GBA games where they just have to stand next to each other for several weeks of in game time. Yeah pretty much. To see how many love points a pair has, any Castle will have a fortune teller that tells you in vague terms. Sometimes you have to work to keep two units away. Lewyen canonically marrier Eyrnis but since that wasn't established until Thracia, that means Sylvia can basically steal him frame 1. Also like Awakening, the child units are determined by the mother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Acacia Sgt Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) Okay, time for Scenario 14 of SRW V. Hmm... I see the Might Gaine characters have 54 combined Score. I could make the 60 to take the appropriate route split. So, funny story. Might Gaine goes with one team during the route split. The secret checks at the end of the route split, and in fact unlocks right there. So, 60 is the requirement for the route split with the Might Gaine characters since you have more time to up the score, right? Wrong. Turns out, you need 60 Score if you take the route without Might Gaine, and 50 if you do. Why not the other way around, I don't know... Anyway, the scenario itself is more Cross Ange dragons to fight, but now with even more Cross Ange characters around. Edited January 20 by Acacia Sgt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interdimensional Observer Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) It's Time for... Spoiler L-Gaim!🤪 Grados!😉 Never heard of Edon before. Daba dee daba do. How. Are. You?!😃 Looks like that while Leecee has already defected, Daba has just joined the Rebel Army, and Kyao expresses a lot of interest in joining the Posaydal Army. 😏 They just got here and the heroes are already marked for death. Plus warning! about what's to come. Already the Gandor gets slammed on its first independent battle? By a tiny force led by the rather-inexperienced Gablae?🤨 Daba reinforces on turn 2. Time for L-Gaim ...or not. The snazzy theme isn't being used, it's something much more "austerely heroic". Leecee and Kyao (he got Supporter'ed in 30) join him in Allones, Amu joins after the battle in another Allone. The Allones are like GMs and Zakus, basically trash you need to hold back so they don't get blown up and end up costing you funds. As for Daba... Not bad for what's just a start that'll hopefully will soon be handed over to Amu and replaced by the L-Gaim Mk. II. Daba is the third Sniper, nice. And Lilith is with him too as the "R" next to his portrait indicates. She already has Love -but is 21 SP short of being able to cast it. A very easy battle, just an intro to L-Gaim with a handful of its units. Amuro is first to 100 kills, and Spirit Ace. Akimi soon followed him on the latter. I'll mostly stop on Ace talk with this. 100 kills = +10 starting Will, which means I can use the Hyper Hammer right away. Which isn't that big a deal ...but Amuro has nonexistent Will gains, hitting and dodging gets him 0 Will, why is he so unmotivated by success? "Resplendorous", not a legitimate form of the word "resplendent". So that's how it's going to be right now. The Gandor and its crew have allied with the Rebel Army in this strange land. A very short nothing sub-episode. Winning in seven turns or less gets you a Bat-Shu, but you can always capture more. And perhaps you should if you want to make the non-Daba HMLG characters immediately more useful. I didn't realize these could be converted to Mag Coats, might actually be worth taking in a few. -But I choose to press on to the next mission. The blonde guy in charge of the Rebel Army doesn't get along too well with Hazuki or Daba. Char clone? As long as it ain't the Original. I couldn't choose my characters for this map, those who deployed defied orders. The northeast squad was mostly tanked by Akimi until she ran low on EN and Ammo, the northwestern dealt with by Amuro, until he, b/c G-3 can't melee airborne enemies like Bat-Shus, ran out of ammo. Nei's southwestern reinforcements were handled by Akimi and some others. A bunch of units did absolutely nothing here. I wish Braiger or Daltanious had deployed because their Iron Wall/Guard is so valuable. Random, but that facial expression is totally out of place for Getter.😆 Maybe not fully de-anime'd/returned to GR manga rawness? Now onto talk! The heroes BTW had no idea where they were going exactly, and have no idea how exactly they're going to get back.😛 Let's go down the list: One. Two. Three. Four. Five. All of these against just Gadisword + Muge? And which of these has the ticket back to Earth? Makes sense, L-Gaim's anime doesn't feature the Earth, nor aliens that are conquest-obsessed. Degwin was right!😛 Just imagine the others things Zeon could be doing if it stopped fighting the Earth Federation, non-aggression pacts free up so much time and resources. Now how about an SRW that's the inverse of the norm? Rather than begin on Earth with aliens conquering it, we begin on a distant planet fighting Earth aggression and work our way back to the Little Blue Dot? No idea what licenses could be bent for that, couldn't be easy to find. SRW international politics.😄 The Rebel Army guy wants the heroes to stay and fight Posaydal, the heroes want to travel elsewhere. -Let me get back and see how things go. 12 hours ago, Acacia Sgt said: As a side note, the OYW effectively coming to a premature end because of sudden aliens... they were totally retreading that plot point from Alpha 1, pretty much. I suppose they want to save something for Amuro for later, without it being a bizarre timeskip to the Counterattack. Though it'll be weird if they chose to do a belated A Baoa Qu and it's Nu vs. the Zeong or Sazabi. 12 hours ago, Acacia Sgt said: Thanks! And yeah, it was totally worth it after everything. I think the game finally decided to throw me a bone, since there was no sudden turn order reversal between CoD and my Devout. Also, after she began using Particle Beam, there was a turn where she instead went back to physically attacking twice. It was so weird, it had to be deliberate. Since if she had used Particle Beam again it would've been yet another party wipe out, as my Devout acted after her. Even when you win, it's at the game's mercy.😅 The CoD could very well be the hardest FF final boss. Edited January 20 by Interdimensional Observer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Huh, seems Tobia is starting to connect the dots regarding Hathaway's Gundam. Also, it seems FMP also existed in the NCC World. Hah, even Tobia thinks they might come from the past, and not a separate third world. Speaking of Tobia, it's apparently a world quirk in Yamato that people born in Mars have red eyes. Tobia has red yes, and indeed says he's from Mars... except, in Gundam canon, he was born on Earth. So the game is changing his birthplace to accomodate a different series' lore. It's always fascinating when SRW does that. If not cross-piloting shenanigans, this is also a good way to lore weld. Best I know, where Tobia was born isn't really relevant, so might as well do this harmless change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rubenio Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 20 hours ago, Capt. Fargus said: It doesn’t count when you break clays with a hammer 😎 A gun's hammer, I'm assuming? 10 hours ago, GuardianSing said: There is something truly funny about this guy being the big boss of this chapter, in a map where all of the castle bosses took huge chunks out of my military's health, only to be decapitated instantly by Ayra with an armor slayer before he even had the chance to counter attack. Bad at combat, lambasted by basically everyone, can't even keep his portrait to himself... Being Chagall is suffering. 10 hours ago, GuardianSing said: All this is telling me is that the characters in FE who can double are on army supplied meth. Pretty much, yes. 10 hours ago, GuardianSing said: What is a king but just another lord with a particularly big army that the other lords around him must pay taxes to. No, listen, it's extremely important that the bloodline survives. Can't you understand how special they are? They're royalty! Kaga would be very sad if you misconstrued this story into a tale about the failings of monarchy instead of understanding that the only problem is that King Bad. Just kill him and then Next King Good, and it'll all be okay. You know I'm beginning to think it may be more fun to make fun of Kaga for being a monarchist than for being a pervert 2 hours ago, Armagon said: Yankees remember that English isn't the only language in the world challenge (impossible) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 3 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: L-Gaim!🤪 Hah, what is possibly Muge Space connecting Sol and Pentagona? Certainly taken from Compact! 3 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: Grados!😉 Never heard of Edon before. Hmm, not me either. Must be from one of the other remaining series to show up. 3 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: 😏 Knowing already some things certainly makes seeing them in other games kidna amusing, eh? XD 3 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: Leecee and Kyao (he got Supporter'ed in 30) join him in Allones, Amu joins after the battle in another Allone. The Allones are like GMs and Zakus, basically trash you need to hold back so they don't get blown up and end up costing you funds. Ah yes, before 30 Kyao was part of the playable roster. Don't know why they "demoted" him to a supporter, but I guess out of everyone there he was the most fitting. 3 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: "Resplendorous", not a legitimate form of the word "resplendent". I wonder if he was merging the two words, and the translation kept that. 3 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: So that's how it's going to be right now. The Gandor and its crew have allied with the Rebel Army in this strange land. Good old Enemy of my Enemy. 3 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: Char clone? Hah, I don't think so. Though L-Gaim was made by Tomino, so perhaps he felt like reusing the name. 3 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: Random, but that facial expression is totally out of place for Getter.😆 Maybe not fully de-anime'd/returned to GR manga rawness? Getter 3 pilots always tend to be the most cheerful jovial. Most. Some versions of Musashi and Benkei also tend to be Ryoma and Hayato levels of crazy. 3 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: All of these against just Gadisword + Muge? OG advantage to count as 2-3 non-OG factions? 3 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: Degwin was right!😛 Just imagine the others things Zeon could be doing if it stopped fighting the Earth Federation, non-aggression pacts free up so much time and resources. Now how about an SRW that's the inverse of the norm? Rather than begin on Earth with aliens conquering it, we begin on a distant planet fighting Earth aggression and work our way back to the Little Blue Dot? No idea what licenses could be bent for that, couldn't be easy to find. So a possible Alien version of Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact? Hmm... maybe if they did something like SRW 64, where the story starts with a conquered Earth, with any hostile humans being collaborators. So an inverse of here, where you instead go to Earth to help whatever rebel groups are there. 3 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: I suppose they want to save something for Amuro for later, without it being a bizarre timeskip to the Counterattack. Though it'll be weird if they chose to do a belated A Baoa Qu and it's Nu vs. the Zeong or Sazabi. Well... it can happen! 3 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: Even when you win, it's at the game's mercy.😅 The CoD could very well be the hardest FF final boss. Certainly feels like it for the 3D version. NES version it was just Particle Beam spam (weaker version I'd wager), and no Tentacles for support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Haaa, I knew it. Hathaway did became Mufty in the NCC World... 12 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said: No, listen, it's extremely important that the bloodline survives. Can't you understand how special they are? They're royalty! Kaga would be very sad if you misconstrued this story into a tale about the failings of monarchy instead of understanding that the only problem is that King Bad. Just kill him and then Next King Good, and it'll all be okay. You know I'm beginning to think it may be more fun to make fun of Kaga for being a monarchist than for being a pervert Does it matter? What do we replace it with? President Bad needs to be killed so we can have Next President Good? It'd still be the people taking matters on their own hands all the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rubenio Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 4 minutes ago, Acacia Sgt said: Does it matter? What do we replace it with? President Bad needs to be killed so we can have Next President Good? It'd still be the people taking matters on their own hands all the same. I understand we need to have a game, but I'm just sayin'. Would be kinda fun to end one of these "Bad King Bad" plot lines with "and they established a republic of the people." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Just now, Saint Rubenio said: I understand we need to have a game, but I'm just sayin'. Would be kinda fun to end one of these "Bad King Bad" plot lines with "and they established a republic of the people." They saw the French Revolution and saw how that didn't really improved things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Anyway, the point is... they can do whatever they want. Since in a fiction with a Happy Ending, it's going to work no matter what is the solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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