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Rules:
1. Game will be played in Maniac difficulty (H2).
2. Anything goes to save the turns! This includes Lunatic Statboosters, the Rainbow Pot, you name it.
3. The goal is to get the absolute lowest turncount possible in Maniac difficulty. While rigging is allowed in this run, I dont make a habit of relying on it for strats and I wont rig stuff like a 1% crit on Jagen.
4. Units that Im planning to use:

[spoiler=Units that will be used]
1. Cavalier Avatar- tested Fighter and Cavalier and Cavalier won. The extra bulk makes strategies more reliable and cuts 1 turn from Prologue 3 and Athena.

Bases: HP 20 Str 7 Mag 0 Skl 7 Spd 9 Lck 3 Def 8 Res 0 Sword E Lance D

Growths: HP 70% Str 55% Mag 20% Skl 60% Spd 45% Lck 60% Def 40% Res 5%

2. Marth- obviously, I need him to be competent by Chapter 12. He got the Growth Drop.

Bases: HP 26 Str 8 Mag 0 Skl 10 Spd 10 Lck 9 Def 8 Res 0 Sword D

Growths: HP 110% Str 70% Mag 5% Skl 75% Spd 75% Lck 90% Def 40% Res 15% <- after growth drop

3. Ryan- my plans include a competent horseman to ORKO Hardin with Parthia, and which unit would be better for the task than Ryan? Will be constantly changing from myrmidon to hunter to sniper to horseman to swordmaster. Might also be used as a second string Dracoknight. He got the Bond Drop.

Bases: HP 18 Str 5 Mag 0 Skl 10 Spd 11 Lck 3 Def 5 Res 0 Sword E Bow D<- stats shown are him as a lv1 myrmidon.

Growths: HP 80% Str 50% Mag 0 Skl 80% Spd 50% Lck 40% Def 30% Res 5%

4. Palla- of course, it wouldnt be a good run without the godess of destruction right?

Bases: HP 24 Str 10 Mag 2 Skl 11 Spd 16 Lck 9 Def 9 Res 6 Lance B

Growths: HP 70% Str 60% Mag 0% Skl 90% Spd 30% Lck 20% Def 30% Res 10%

5. Caeda- Wing Spear hax and Prologue.

Bases: HP 19 Str 6 Mag 2 Skl 7 Spd 15 Lck 13 Def 7 Res 6 Lance D

Growths: HP 60% Str 30% Mag 0% Skl 80% Spd 95% Lck 80% Def 25% Res 10%

6. Malicia- Hammerne, rescue, warp and again. Need her to save the most amount of turns possible.

Bases: HP 16 Str 0 Mag 2 Skl 1 Spd 4 Lck 12 Def 1 Res 5 Staff C

Growths: HP 50% Str 0% Mag 40% Skl 30% Spd 60% Lck 40% Def 20% Res 40%

7. Catria- as much as I hate her, Ill probably need her for the Wyvern Valley. If only I could bench her.

Bases: HP 22 Str 7 Mag 2 Skl 8 Spd 14 Lck 9 Def 8 Res 6 Lance C

Growths: HP 80% Str 50% Mag 0% Skl 80% Spd 80% Lck 50% Def 30% Res 10%

8. Luke- its a maybe. Havent had much luck giving him kills as of Prologue 5 but who knows...

Luke is benched.

9. Sirius- I will siriusly use him.

Bases: HP 28 Str 12 Mag 1 Skl 14 Spd 13 Lck 4 Def 11 Res 6 Sword B Lance A

Growths: HP 95% Str 65% Mag 0% Skl 60% Spd 50% Lck 60% Def 50% Res 5%

10. Feena- Dancer/10
11. Wendell- starts close to warp rank which is cool. He also is promoted so some rescue strats might rely on him over Malicia.
12. Yumina- Physic and Rescue bot.

13. Navarre- he's an excellent unit and I picked up to make him the possible second horseman I need for 20x.

Bases: HP 23 Str 9 Mag 0 Skl 16 Spd 16 Lck 7 Def 8 Res 0 Sword C

Growths: HP 90% Str 45% Mag 0% Skl 50% Spd 70% Lck 70% Def 20% Res 5%

14. Minerva- comes promoted with an exquisite axe rank and dragonpike rank. Useful for the Dragon chapters.

Bases: HP 32 Str 13 Mag 1 Skl 12 Spd 15 Lck 11 Def 16 Res 3 Axe A Lance C

Growths: HP 80% Str 50% Mag 0% Skl 60% Spd 50% Lck 60% Def 30% Res 5%

There are some other units that might also see some use here and there but thats the core of the team pretty much.



5. Obligatory the game must be played to the True Ending.
6. Drill Grounds will be used.

Playlist: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOyEd86YwZldtbItelXudUdEIpL310VTn

Turncounts:

Prologue 21/21

Chapter 1 6/27

Chapter 2 6/33

Chapter 3 6/39

Chapter 3x 6/45

Chapter 4 3/48

Chapter 5 7/55

Chapter 6 5/60

Chapter 6x 1/61

Chapter 7 4/65

Chapter 8 3/68

Chapter 9 5/73

Chapter 10 2/75

Chapter 10x 1/76

Chapter 11 5/81

Chapter 12 5/86

Chapter 13 4/90

Chapter 13x 2/92

Chapter 14 1/93

Chapter 15 1/94

Chapter 16 1/95

Chapter 16x 1/96

Chapter 17 1/97

Chapter 18 1/98

Chapter 19 1/99

Chapter 20 1/100

Chapter 20x 3/103

Chapter 21 1/104

Chapter 22 1/105

Chapter 23 1/106

Endgame 1/107

[spoiler=Videos]: (up to 3 vid and link limit apparently, so copy and paste the link into your browser to see the rest)

Prologue 1-4 Athena

Prologue 5

Prologue 6 Draug and Prologue 7 Cain

Prologue 8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aOMNCXUzZE

Chapter 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEUKpr6naws

Chapter 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9Owy2hjcmg

Chapter 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGPSN4YpvN4

Chapter 3x

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxs5iu4O5fk

Chapter 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JEo5zCohhs

Chapter 5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdtY8CON4v8

Chapter 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_0AydJ5BK8

Chapter 6x

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh6C3QTwOP4

Chapter 7

Chapter 8

Chapter 9

http://www.youtube.com/watch?edit=vd&v=dzxdG2muMiY

Chapter 10

Chapter 10x

Chapter 11

Chapter 12

Chapter 13

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cN8vtBfqzE

Chapter 13x

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQWNmoXV0RM

Chapter 14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2S1iV-R92I

Chapter 15

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_cZayvHAs4

Chapter 16

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgySZZyr_gw

Chapter 16x and 17

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYtaYJzyzjs

Chapter 18 and 19

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDTjtJkqbvQ

Chapter 20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gCwXwtm0sk

Chapter 20x

http://www.youtube.com/watch?edit=vd&v=hLAbey3jPA4

Chapters 21-Endgame

http://www.youtube.com/watch?edit=vd&v=uSRG44vD-MQ

Edited by PKL

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LTC is the best, doubles mercenaries and doesn't afraid of anything except Wing Spear.

One more incentive for him to not turn traitor like Abel.

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Cav MU is a mean dude on Maniac. I expect Ryan to contribute a lot seeing your bosskill allocation.

Yeah, he really is. i think Ryan will contribute a lot, his chip will be useful against the prologue 8 thieves for example. I want to start giving a lot more kills to Luke and Caeda though. The bosskills for ryan were almost inevitable. Well, maybe Athena was, but the way the map played out in that particular run didnt make it possible for Caeda to get the kill.

LTC is the best, doubles mercenaries and doesn't afraid of anything except Wing Spear.

One more incentive for him to not turn traitor like Abel.

Good thing Caeda doesnt have the Win Spear in Prologue 3! He'd be dead!

Hello there Haar.

Yep. I wonder if he will break this game as much as he breaks FE10.

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Yep. I wonder if he will break this game as much as he breaks FE10.

I'm thinking that choosing to make him like that was intentional

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lol I have an almost identical looking MU on my recent Lunatic run, but he's a Fighter (appropriately named too):

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quite impresive defense for a fighter (they have 3 base defense IIRC) what options did you pick?

IIT: go PKL!

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I'm thinking that choosing to make him like that was intentional

Yeah :P

lol I have an almost identical looking MU on my recent Lunatic run, but he's a Fighter (appropriately named too):

33l36ok.jpg

Haha. Nice. I also made him wear the headband wtf.

quite impresive defense for a fighter (they have 3 base defense IIRC) what options did you pick?

IIT: go PKL!

Thanks :D

Caeda needs 2 str procs and 2 spd procs by Prologue 8 to get the absolute minimum. And yes, the level was rigged :P. Though I only wanted str, she also def so doop.

Edited by CordeliaxFrederick

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Hi, and the video editing is me, I just messed up on these first couple with how squeezed it is lol.

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Many people has the temptation to rigged at times. And sheesh your doing awesome in maniac, I could barely get pass the prolouge and now stuck on chapter 3...

Ahh, and the theme that drew most of us to this series. (Who's idea was it?)

Also seeing the reference, Dragon Knight, Yes?

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Many people has the temptation to rigged at times. And sheesh your doing awesome in maniac, I could barely get pass the prolouge and now stuck on chapter 3...

Ahh, and the theme that drew most of us to this series. (Who's idea was it?)

Also seeing the reference, Dragon Knight, Yes?

I hate rigging, its just that for this particular playthrough, I need Caeda to be able to ORKO thieves/Katarina in Prologue 8 :P. Also, it was Jedi who put the theme, I saw him. :P

Also, It seems a 3 turn of Prologue 8 is off-limits. My plan involved having Katarina killed by Enemy Phase 3 and then ending it by having the remaining thieves suicide on Caeda, but the problem is, that even though Katarina has retreated, reinforcements still spawn. So, the hand axe barbarians dont allow me to 3 turn. Deploying Luke also only lets me 5 turn oddly enough. So I chose to deploy Ryan and Wrys over him. Poor Luke. The map is easily 3 turnable in H1, but here, the added enemies make it impossible.

Edited by CordeliaxFrederick

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Managed to 4 turn Prologue 8 with relatively high chances of sucess. The only problem was the first turn, in which I had to make sure athena and Marth dodged their 50 something display hit axes. The rest was pretty rig-free, though I had to sacrifice Cain to lure Katarina. Means Im down 1000G in the main game. Since I get so much money in the game, I dont think this will be a huge issue though. Should still get enough money from weapons and stuff to be able to Drill Ground Marth and Katarina/Merric. Speaking of, I need a Gharnef killer, Katarina costs 1 turn or an again charge (which I wont be able to spare) while Merric costs more money overall. Merric got a terrible first level of hp lck in Prologue 8 btw. Anyway, videos will come later.

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A 1 turn of Draug is still technically "possible" in H2. If by "possible" we assume double crits on the soldiers and the mage missing Caeda at 80+ hit that is.

Edited by CordeliaxFrederick

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A 1 turn of Draug is still technically "possible" in H2. If by "possible" we assume double crits on the soldiers and the mage missing Caeda at 80+ hit that is.

oh, that's easy

just TAS it or manipulate the RNG itself

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"2. Anything goes to save the turns!"

So what, you're a softy nowadays? Not rigging the RNG for criticals and dodges of very small probability, yet claiming that anything goes? Hmm.

Other than that, it's fairly impressive to LTC H2.

Edited by mmKALLL

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"2. Anything goes to save the turns!"

So what, you're a softy nowadays? Not rigging the RNG for criticals and dodges of very small probability, yet claiming that anything goes? Hmm.

Other than that, it's fairly impressive to LTC H2.

Someone was selective about the rules they read

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Well's that's true. But the thing is, its 2% crits back-to-back. And an 80% dodge right after.

EDIT: It's too unreasonable in other words Im not gonna halt the run to rig for an entire week/month/w.e it takes to get the 1 turn :P Perhaps I shouldve phrased that better in the OP Anything remotely reasonable goes to save the turns

EDIT 2: Wait, why are we even having this conversation?

"While rigging is allowed in this run, I dont make a habit of relying on it for strats and I wont rig stuff like a 1% crit on Jagen."

Edited by CordeliaxFrederick

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArI70dhDzbaFdGQyM2psZkFYY1IxcDloajFHWmZVamc&usp=sharing

This is how the current staff usage looks like. So I have 3 rescues, 1 warp and a bunch agains in endgame. Thats more than enough. Im wondering though, if there is any way to tweak it to save any turns? Will 20x take less turns with a few charges off of those staves? These are things Id like to know before actually playing 20x, but idk, I think i really would need to play it to find out...

Edited by CordeliaxFrederick

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Prologue 8 is done in 4 turns.

The first part needed the Silver axe dodge from marth at like 50 hit and the steel axe dodge on Athena at similar hit. Otherwise, it is fairly rig-free until after the map save, that is. But the safety of the map save lets me do risky stuff. Since the remaining thief at the end proc'd hp and def, a combination of Ryan+Merric did not yield the result I expected. After I had made merric attack the thief is when I realized the 2 couldnt KO him, resulting in some improvization that somehow worked so I didnt have to re-record the map save haha. Thats why I took the risk and used the rapier to try and get a crit on the barbarian with marth.

Merric got a terrible first level, which makes me a bit skeptical to make him my gharnef killer. Hopefully he doesnt get more of those. Athena gets a gr8 level, shame she has no use later.

EDIT: Also, forgot to mention, I managed to deploy Luke contrary to what the prep screen makes you believe.

Edited by Peekayell

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Hey, you didn't get rid of the hairstyle. : ] Sheesh, you got lucky with Marth's critical, would you have just settled with five turns if that failed or reset?

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