Ice Dragon Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, TheWildestCat said: Ok, also random question Ice Dragon. How much research do you do for this forum website. These days, not much unless I'm arguing with someone or something silly like that. I just play Heroes with the language set to Japanese to get the audio and because I know the language well enough, so I'm reasonably familiar with the localization differences. 6 minutes ago, Diovani Bressan said: Also, Camilla's personal skill in Fates, Rose’s Thorn, and her Camilla's Axe refinement have a flower, a rose, on the icon. He already mentioned those in the post I quoted. Edited January 22, 2019 by Ice Dragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercakete Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 "Steamy secrets," hmm... Could it be...that this whole time...Camilla's actually been male? (Just being silly. It'd be hilarious to watch people's reactions to that, though, if it were true.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Shogi Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 According the datamine, Spoiler HS!Camilla comes with Hone Fliers at 4* I might replace ToD!Nowi on my flier team. Decisions, decisions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaid Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Camilla's art looks pretty terrible. Now I just feel more motivated to try and win a CYL alt for her that actually looks good. What on earth was Lack thinking with that tiny head and bony limbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landmaster Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Her dagger is better than the ducks, that's all that matters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roflolxp54 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) Oh boy - many Camilla's are gonna die in a few days! Spoiler Ouch Pouch+ (dagger version of Ryoma's weapon) Atk/Spd 2 Hone Fliers (4* unlock!) Also the seals are ridiculous. Spoiler Brazen Atk/Def Fire Boost Even Def Wave Edited January 23, 2019 by Roflolxp54 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasori Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I don't have much interest in this Camilla, but I do like the Ouch pouch. I have a neko Sakura thats not all that usefull without mages so perhaps she can take the weapon. Hone flier also comes in handy since Hinoka having it isn't all that good when all your other good fliers are also blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 The Bonus units are interesting: Spoiler Xander, Leo and Takumi (all OG). I'm looking forward using Xander again and also Takumi. But it's strange Leo is bonus again ... ... there are enough other Fates units that haven't been bonus yet. @Diovani Bressan Will you add the spoiler tag to the topic for 2-3 days? 3 hours ago, Roflolxp54 said: Also the seals are ridiculous. Spoiler Brazen ATK/DEF is cool, but it doesn't help much more than ATK/RES. Boost skills are useless in the harder modes. Wave skill is something new, I'm not a big fan though. 3 hours ago, Roflolxp54 said: Oh boy - many Camilla's are gonna die in a few days! This. Seems like IS wants us to spend Grails on her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diovani Bressan Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, mampfoid said: @Diovani Bressan Will you add the spoiler tag to the topic for 2-3 days Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, Diovani Bressan said: Yes. Thanks! That will make things easier. :-) Ok, seals aren't that interesting for me, Camilla (or her skills) is the real prize here. Have to think of a team around Xander and Takumi. Naesala and Nailah deserve some more play-time. Looks like NY!Fjorm will come along, since I don't have any new green unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diovani Bressan Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 Hm... Hone Fliers is one thing that interested me. I couldn't care less about Camilla. She will probable be the type of units that I will never use, since I have Eir. I believe that I am one of the few players that don't see her weapon as a good weapon. I will keep the 5-Stars, and use the 4-Stars copy as fodder. About the Seals, Brazen Atk/Def is great! I will probably refine it to Lv 3. Even Def Wave could be useful to units like Laevatein, so with Odd Spd Wave she will always have +6 damage, or Silas, so he will have +6 Def all the time and can grant +6 Def to allies in any turn. Fire Boost... I couldn't care less. We have both Panic Ploy and Fire Boost as seal, and Panic Ploy is also in a GHB unit at 4-Stars. There is no reason to keep Luke as a 5-Stars Exclusive unit anymore. Please, IntSys, we need new changes to the summoning pool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilda Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, mampfoid said: The Bonus units are interesting: Reveal hidden contents Xander, Leo and Takumi (all OG). I'm looking forward using Xander again and also Takumi. But it's strange Leo is bonus again ... ... there are enough other Fates units that haven't been bonus yet. @Diovani Bressan Will you add the spoiler tag to the topic for 2-3 days? Hide contents Brazen ATK/DEF is cool, but it doesn't help much more than ATK/RES. Boost skills are useless in the harder modes. Wave skill is something new, I'm not a big fan though. This. Seems like IS wants us to spend Grails on her. Spoiler Well yeah Atk/Def is oke and definitly very good for PVE in Arena its nice too. It has its uses. I for once would like to see the following seals: Vantage Cancel Affinity Shield Pulse (its really high time for how niche this skill is) Life and Death Close Counter Triangle Adept SPD and Atk Tactics Seals i would like to see too but would prolly break the game because of Bold Fighter/Wary Fighter/Surtr etc. or other stuff: Desperation Wings of Mercy Escape Route Distant Counter Special Seals not based on existing skills: Armor Smasher Seal (effectiv dmg against Armorers), This is very much needed so one doesnt need to run an Armor Smasher Weapon instead of Personal weapon to deal with Armors effectivly. Note: not usable by Staff users Horse Smasher Seal Note: not usable by Staff users Not putting up Dragon or Flier smasher because they dont have Shield to nullyfie it and Bows are effectiv by default on Flier and it kinda destroys the niche Naga and Falchion users have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diovani Bressan Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Hilda said: Special Seals not based on existing skills: Armor Smasher Seal (effectiv dmg against Armorers), This is very much needed so one doesnt need to run an Armor Smasher Weapon instead of Personal weapon to deal with Armors effectivly. Note: not usable by Staff users Horse Smasher Seal Note: not usable by Staff users Not putting up Dragon or Flier smasher because they dont have Shield to nullyfie it and Bows are effectiv by default on Flier and it kinda destroys the niche Naga and Falchion users have. I don't know if we will ever see a seal that grants effective damage against some type of units. If the player wants a unit to be effective against a cavalry or armored foe, this player needs to pay a price, which is not using that unit's personal weapon. A seal that grants effective againts some type of units would make some units a little broken. Units that already have a effective weapon would get 2 effective effects (poor armored dragon units). Kinshi Hinoka, for example, who has a weapon effective against Fliers and Armored, will have three effective effects if she uses a seal that grants effective against cavalry. I can see the introduction of Breaker Skills for Movement Types: Cavalry Breaker, Armored Breaker... And even if it happens, I don't believe it will become a seal. Edited January 23, 2019 by Diovani Bressan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 @Hilda Yeah, I'm positive niche skills will be released as a seal. Vantage would be cool too, since we have Desperation weapons. I'm still waiting for a WoM seal. WoM + breaker would be great for my clears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure the Scale Tipper Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I’m thinking of using Camilla with an AoE special with her Ouch Pouch (Atk) and Quickened Pulse. Which would be more useful for AR defense? Growing Wind, Blazing Wind, or another? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWildestCat Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 The only reason I am keeping Camilla is because I like to try and keep any and all tempest trial units so I don't have to use grails. other than that why. I thought Lyn had more love. Also summer Hoshido please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diovani Bressan Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 20 minutes ago, TheWildestCat said: Also summer Hoshido please. Well... we already have Summer Takumi, so the banner could be Summer Ryoma, Summer Sakura, Summer Hinoka and Summer Male Corrin (since the Nohrian Summer Banner had Female Corrin). It's not what I want (I don't want another summer banner with Awakening and Fates characters), but I know that's possible to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 45 minutes ago, Azure the Scale Tipper said: I’m thinking of using Camilla with an AoE special with her Ouch Pouch (Atk) and Quickened Pulse. Better go with Heavy Blade, since you won't proc a 4 CD special with Ouch P. + QP at first attack anyway. Heavy Blade would help to charge a second or third proc faster. 48 minutes ago, Azure the Scale Tipper said: Which would be more useful for AR defense? Growing Wind, Blazing Wind, or another? I'd go with Blazing specials for the 1.5 factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure the Scale Tipper Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, mampfoid said: Better go with Heavy Blade, since you won't proc a 4 CD special with Ouch P. + QP at first attack anyway. Heavy Blade would help to charge a second or third proc faster. I'd go with Blazing specials for the 1.5 factor. So, this? Ouch Pouch+ (Atk) Blazing Wind Atk/Spd 2 *Don’t know which budget B-Skill would be good here* Hone Fliers Heavy Blade 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garlyle Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I also thought about trying out that build on another dagger unit. My first idea was Sothe, but he has a solid dagger. Also this might require Hardy Bearing, which I don't even have in stage 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Azure the Scale Tipper said: *Don’t know which budget B-Skill would be good here* Special Spiral. For AR defense beaming specials like WoM add randomness. If she is going to kill a certain threat, you could go with a breaker. 3 minutes ago, Azure the Scale Tipper said: So, this? Looking good for me, you'll have fun with her in TTs. Do you already have team mates for her? (Perhaps SPD refine is better since it gives +2 SPD instead of +1 ATK. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javi Blizz Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Considering to run OG Camilla, Summer!Camilla, NY!Camilla and Ugly!Camilla as my TT+ team this time. But until I reach 15000 points for the 5* I'll probably run Xander and some more horses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanima Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I would love to use my OG!Takumi, but he is already at max HM. I'm considering going with a Bird!Laguz team + Spring!Sakura. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 6 hours ago, mampfoid said: Wave skill is something new, I'm not a big fan though. The main use case I see for the Even Def Wave Sacred Seal is to run it with Odd Def Wave in the C slot, which gives you a stronger version of the (not yet existing) Joint Fortify Def. Dual Waves gives +6 to the stat regardless of if there is an adjacent unit, compared to Joint Hone/Fortify, which gives only +5 and only when there is an adjacent unit. The only problem right now is that Odd Def Wave is only available on Legendary Eirika, Festival Xander, and Onsen Ryoma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: The only problem right now is that Odd Def Wave is only available on Legendary Eirika, Festival Xander, and Onsen Ryoma. The other problem is that you block 2 slots for a self-buff, where a team mate could do that with 1 slot for your tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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