GuardianSing Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 I debated on using Knoll on fear that he would just be Ewan but far worse but lets be honest That's already pretty much what I'm doing with Joshua and Marisa. 1 hour ago, Punished Dayni said: But yeah, the original game having a weird interest in DiD is one thing. Sadly there were some additions to SoV that make things worse in places. This happening to good units doesn't help. 42 minutes ago, BrightBow said: Not exactly. Echoes actually manages to be worse here then the original. There is the treatment of Celica, which is just plain baffling. Also the fact that the sole playable female character they added has no character beyond simping to the male protagonist. Not that Berkut's girlfriend is treated much better. Also to mind come certain... framing decisions. Youch. Gross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punished Dayni Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 TRS: Tia Revengeance Sessions Spoiler Got to the route split. Ahab was bown away by the white whale that is Lionel. Am I unable to access Holmes's Convoy when I get to the route split itself? Do I have to go back to access equipment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rubenio Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 12 minutes ago, Edelguardiansing said: I debated on using Knoll on fear that he would just be Ewan but far worse but lets be honest That's already pretty much what I'm doing with Joshua and Marisa. That's the way to do it. It would break my heart if you benched my beloved depressed 0 luck hood man. 2 minutes ago, Punished Dayni said: TRS: Tia Revengeance Sessions Spoiler Holmes: Why won't you die!? Richard: Deus ex machina, son. It hardens in response to plot massacre. 2 minutes ago, Punished Dayni said: Hide contents Got to the route split. Ahab was bown away by the white whale that is Lionel. Am I unable to access Holmes's Convoy when I get to the route split itself? Do I have to go back to access equipment? Spoiler It's possible to access Holmes's convoy, but it requires pressing a button that I don't remember while in the item menu. It's not very intuitive, but the option exists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightBow Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 (edited) The 2nd convoy is at the bottom of the unit list. Edited September 27, 2022 by BrightBow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuardianSing Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 WHAT!!? Where the fuck is Cormag. 5 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said: That's the way to do it. It would break my heart if you benched my beloved depressed 0 luck hood man. I love how this just became the bad units run. It's ironic because it's the exact reverse of what I was planning to do. I was planning on using the worst units on Eirika's easier route and use the more powerful units on Ephraim's harder route. And yet, here we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interdimensional Observer Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 23 minutes ago, Edelguardiansing said: I debated on using Knoll on fear that he would just be Ewan but far worse but lets be honest That's already pretty much what I'm doing with Joshua and Marisa. Ewan is 4 points above his Mag average here just sayin'. -2 on the Skl average, +1 on the Spd, -1 HP/Lck/Def, +2 Res. As for Joshua, +1 HP, -1 Str/Spd/Def, +2 Lck. Marisa is +1 Str, -2 Spd. So you're actually not wrong on your judgements on average, mostly. 2 hours ago, Saint Rubenio said: But then, it's consistent with the rest of chapter 21. The map as a whole is seemingly designed to have Leif teleport with a single ally to the castle, and then have this army supposedly famous for their might vanish from existence in an instant. Because if you try anything else, anything that might even remotely resemble the climatic battle that this should be, Kaga hates you and does his utmost to make your life miserable and kill all the waifus and husbandos you love. I tried a blend of berserking Rein and then playing the chapter conventionally, it didn't work. The stream of silver-packing reinforcements had too much firepower for my best frontliners to survive. 2 hours ago, Saint Rubenio said: Why wasn't he wearing armor during an invasion? I know he's a FE dad, but c'mon. Remember, he said he was staying behind to find out why Grado invaded. He says nothing about staying behind to fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightBow Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 (edited) Sadly boss convos are less interesting on this version of the map since here Joshua does not know Caellach killed his mom and Cormag does not know that Valter killed Glen. Edited September 27, 2022 by BrightBow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punished Dayni Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 The one time we get an original Holy Weapon in Genealogy, it confuses everyone. Or is it just me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightBow Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 It will never cease to amaze me that someone looked at Gaiden and decided that the game needed more damsels in distress. And some more mind control stuff too, for good measure. Since Dyute just wasn't enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpica Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 20 minutes ago, Punished Dayni said: The one time we get an original Holy Weapon in Genealogy, it confuses everyone. Or is it just me? Kaga did it first literally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightBow Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Speaking of damsels, seems like Mekkah has been making some progress in Tear Ring Saga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpica Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 I hope he plays Berwick after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuardianSing Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Can't wait to sell this thing and never see it again. The strategy worked! Thank you whoever told me that I could steal things with thieves. Ewan is probably one of the most powerful units on this team. Man it's always interesting finishing one of these long chapters only to come back and see that I didn't take that much interesting footage from it. Well anyways, time to Face Orson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rubenio Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Edelguardiansing said: WHAT!!? And he kills his mother. How's that for a revelation? 2 hours ago, Edelguardiansing said: Where the fuck is Cormag. In your team, no? He joins Ephraim. 2 hours ago, Edelguardiansing said: I love how this just became the bad units run. It's ironic because it's the exact reverse of what I was planning to do. I was planning on using the worst units on Eirika's easier route and use the more powerful units on Ephraim's harder route. And yet, here we are. That's probably the reasonable thing, but then, we are all FE players here. 1 hour ago, Interdimensional Observer said: Remember, he said he was staying behind to find out why Grado invaded. He says nothing about staying behind to fight. Still, you'd think he'd have some want for self-preservation. 27 minutes ago, Edelguardiansing said: To this day, I still absolutely love the fact that this is Valter's death quote. The insane murderer who can't shut up and spends the entire game toying with his "prey" and letting them go again and again because he considers it all to be one big game for his benefit. He dies with a shriek. He couldn't get some last creepy words out. Just pure fear as he goes down. Lovely. 28 minutes ago, Edelguardiansing said: Well anyways, time to Face Orson. Best villains interacting time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightBow Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Saint Rubenio said: To this day, I still absolutely love the fact that this is Valter's death quote. The insane murderer who can't shut up and spends the entire game toying with his "prey" and letting them go again and again because he considers it all to be one big game for his benefit. He dies with a shriek. He couldn't get some last creepy words out. Just pure fear as he goes down. Lovely. It is quite beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuardianSing Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said: In your team, no? He joins Ephraim. Oh my god I think I killed Cormag without even knowing it. It's actually a blank in my mind, I don't remember even fighting him. Goddammit, he was one of the ones I actually really wanted to see the supports of. 10 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said: To this day, I still absolutely love the fact that this is Valter's death quote. The insane murderer who can't shut up and spends the entire game toying with his "prey" and letting them go again and again because he considers it all to be one big game for his benefit. He dies with a shriek. He couldn't get some last creepy words out. Just pure fear as he goes down. Lovely. It's one of the more realistic reactions to being killed if we're being honest No but yeah I agree with you. He's an...interesting villain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpica Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Has been a while since i touched Fates, let's return to it Where did i stop again? Ah the "breather" between Ninja and Fox Hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightBow Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, Edelguardiansing said: Oh my god I think I killed Cormag without even knowing it. It's actually a blank in my mind, I don't remember even fighting him. Goddammit, he was one of the ones I actually really wanted to see the supports of. He was on Duessel's map. He was ordered by Selena to flank Duessel's forces. He is recruited by either Duessel or for some reason Tana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eltosian Kadath Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Saint Rubenio said: But then, it's consistent with the rest of chapter 21. The map as a whole is seemingly designed to have Leif teleport with a single ally to the castle, and then have this army supposedly famous for their might vanish from existence in an instant. Because if you try anything else, anything that might even remotely resemble the climatic battle that this should be, Kaga hates you and does his utmost to make your life miserable and kill all the waifus and husbandos you love. I played that map straight once. You have to play very carefully. 2 hours ago, Edelguardiansing said: I debated on using Knoll on fear that he would just be Ewan but far worse but lets be honest No, no, no...You should have early promoted them to those powerful summoners already. Break the game with the power of controllable fodder. 2 hours ago, Edelguardiansing said: WHAT!!? Did they not mention Caellach's history with Joshua last time because he was dead? 1 hour ago, Edelguardiansing said: Can't wait to sell this thing and never see it again. Not that surprised that is your reaction, but keeping it around to go for a hard kill isn't the worst idea either 1 hour ago, Edelguardiansing said: The strategy worked! Thank you whoever told me that I could steal things with thieves. You are welcome. 17 minutes ago, Edelguardiansing said: Oh my god I think I killed Cormag without even knowing it. It's actually a blank in my mind, I don't remember even fighting him. Yeah, he started on the map with Dussell as an enemy back in chapter 10. Edited September 27, 2022 by Eltosian Kadath cut off mid sentence... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punished Dayni Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 49 minutes ago, Edelguardiansing said: Ewan is probably one of the most powerful units on this team. I mean, is he wrong? 5 minutes ago, Αυτοκράτορας των Γαρίδων said: Ah the "breather" between Ninja and Fox Hell Those first few turns can still be rough though, but yeah it sure isn't like the other two. Comparing them, Fox Hell's first half could be worse, but it's latter half is such a dice roll to be aggrevating while Ninja hell's first half is just awful but the second half isn't as bad if you have Kotaro beat. But I still haven't overcome Hinoka on Lunatic. I think I'm going to hate the last 5 or 6 chapters of Conquest a bunch at this rate if I even manage to beat them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightBow Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Eltosian Kadath said: Did they not mention Caellach's history with Joshua last time because he was dead? Nah, that's just never brought up unless Joshua actually enters combat with Caellach. But considering on Eirika's route you know Caellach killed Joshua's mother, it's natural to give the kill to him. You only see this convo on Eprahim route. In Eirika's version, we see Rief having a conversation with Valter instead. Edited September 27, 2022 by BrightBow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimpica Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Punished Dayni said: Those first few turns can still be rough though, but yeah it sure isn't like the other two. Well, it's rough, but atleast it's fun, unlike Fox and Ninja, hence breather XD 3 minutes ago, Punished Dayni said: But I still haven't overcome Hinoka on Lunatic. What do you have trouble with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuardianSing Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, BrightBow said: He was on Duessel's map. He was ordered by Selena to flank Duessel's forces. He is recruited by either Duessel or for some reason Tana. 9 minutes ago, Eltosian Kadath said: Yeah, he started on the map with Dussell as an enemy back in chapter 10. I don't think I'm ever going to live this down. 9 minutes ago, Eltosian Kadath said: No, no, no...You should have early promoted them to those powerful summoners already. Break the game with the power of controllable fodder. I've already done a few early premotes for the next chapter. I mean in Erika's route none of my units got even above level 10 in their promotions so I know minmaxing isn't needed. I only have one Guiding ring though so it's between Knoll and Ewan. 13 minutes ago, Eltosian Kadath said: Did they not mention Caellach's history with Joshua last time because he was dead? Not that I remember no. 6 minutes ago, Punished Dayni said: I mean, is he wrong? True enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rubenio Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 I've been debating the topic of the bald man's class again. I really want to make him a wrangler, because it's a unique class that doesn't have any native prepromotes, but the mismatch is awful and I've found no other suitable animations to give him. So, in the end, I've decided on the nuclear solution: Boot him. He's a direct reference to another game, and that's cringe, after all. Even if he's a reference so absurdly obscure that nobody would call me out on it. So now he's just going to be a boss, and I'm creating a new character to replace him. Nothing too ambitious like the eye or the bald man, just another splice. This is how he's coming along so far. I think I need to work on his left arm, his chest looks oddly tiny with how wide it is. Yes I know he's slenderman, he won't stay that way. 30 minutes ago, Edelguardiansing said: Oh my god I think I killed Cormag without even knowing it. It's actually a blank in my mind, I don't remember even fighting him. Goddammit, he was one of the ones I actually really wanted to see the supports of. Well... For the record, he was in Duessel's map. Duessel or Tana recruited him. 30 minutes ago, Edelguardiansing said: It's one of the more realistic reactions to being killed if we're being honest It is law in the world of the Middle Ages of Anime that everybody must have a well-rehearsed death speech in case they ever die. It is also strictly forbidden to mortally wound a person in a way that instantly kills them. 30 minutes ago, Edelguardiansing said: No but yeah I agree with you. He's an...interesting villain. For what he is, I really like him. He's very effective at being extremely slimy and hateable. 25 minutes ago, Eltosian Kadath said: I played that map straight once. You have to play very carefully. So did I. It was an absolutely grueling experience, and then Salem got crit by a ballista as I approached the castle. I never was more proud to use a save state in my life. I hate that map so much. 24 minutes ago, Eltosian Kadath said: Did they not mention Caellach's history with Joshua last time because he was dead? 11 minutes ago, Edelguardiansing said: Not that I remember no. The convo with Lyon doesn't happen in Eirika's route. It's Riev with Valter instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punished Dayni Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Just now, Αυτοκράτορας των Γαρίδων said: What do you have trouble with? Everything effectively. If I'm struggling to deal with the first wave of reinforcements, I'm terrified of my chances beyond that. I'm not going to worry about details at the minute, not when I don't have the 3DS with me. Just now, Saint Rubenio said: So now he's just going to be a boss, Do we have to kill him? 1 minute ago, Saint Rubenio said: This is how he's coming along so far. I think I need to work on his left arm, his chest looks oddly tiny with how wide it is. Yes I know he's slenderman, he won't stay that way. It's more like he's got a mutated arm that's hilariously big for the rest of him. Don't give him a face, I dare you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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