Percivalé Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 this is why I'm super worried about scum having a roleblocker brlrhr @eclipse--thanks so much! I was kinda worried and didn't want to say anything until you were up to it. I hope you're feeling better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurykins Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Ah, alrighty. Good to know. And yeah, you did make it through night one, surprise surprise. I made sure of it. =P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurykins Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 *Post was @ Euklyd^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 eury no no no don't do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurykins Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 ...Oh, er. Headaches OP. Welp, shoot. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurykins Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Meh. What's done is done. Never wished so hard to be able to edit texts. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurykins Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 *posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 rip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurykins Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Yup. GG'd. Whoops. Should have gone offline like I figured I should've. Goddamn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurykins Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Anyways... I'm going to bed. This headache has gotten me into so much trouble... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Uh. WELL THEN. What eury is saying partially changes my thoughts on other stuff. I'm fine with Kirsche lynch he hasn't done anything to change my mind of objection. Still don't like Baldrick at the moment though. Do we need hammer? I forgot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momentai~ Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Trollstool didn't know that it was Eclipse specifically- just that he was poisoned, since his Tracker report was fake. I feel Troll is scum. He didn't claim Tracker until after Eclipse claimed to have poisoned him. What chance of survival was he hoping for that he pretended he'd already used it? The fact that Troll is less experienced than me means that offing him is less scum benefit than offing me is. And considering Eclipse was voting me for most of D1, would anyone really have called it a controversial choice of kill? I doubt it. I was hoping that the town doc (if there is one) would be able to cure poisoning. Slim chance but I thought it was a possibility at the time. Since none came forward I figured none existed so, yeah. I was lying about my role usage in case I did survive so mafia would be less apt to go after me because they'd think I had no ability to use. Hey, new claims. . .WTF. Suddenly I don't feel so bad about poisoning Trollstool (dude, at this point, you gain NOTHING by lying). I'm not too keen on Poly's claim, either. Speaking of, Poly, why did you consider targeting me? :( I'm doing the ineffective splashing thing again. Sorry guys, I will update tomorrow. I'm in no state to be on the internet now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Why would they go after you in the first place, when there was a Watcher claim, which is a stronger role, plus me and Bizz being pseudo-clear (at the time, anyways) because of the no-kill night? Plus Euklyd being Restorer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Why would they go after you in the first place, when there was a Watcher claim, which is a stronger role, plus me and Bizz being pseudo-clear (at the time, anyways) because of the no-kill night? Plus Euklyd being Restorer. If you survived the poisoning miraculously, that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 Votals 2.3 kirsche (4): BBM, Polydeuces, The Best SK, Eurykins (L-2) Polydeuces (3): eclipse, Princess Trollstool, Huck Finn Shinori (1): Euklyd Princess Trollstool (1): scorri Huck Finn (1): Shinori eclipse (1): kirsche You have a little over 15 hours to decide on a lynch. 6 votes to hammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euklyd Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 what. Okay so either the mafia tried to NK me or tried to NK Bizz. I don't actually know how a doc works; I assume you're just told your protection was successful regardless of whether the person you protected was targeted for a kill or not. How does this affect things... If BBM is scum and I was the one targeted for the NK, then there's no way to get towncred from jailing Bizz, because he probably thought the NK would go through. Unless he assumed that the doc would have protected me and so was covering his bases. It seems like a gamble and I don't know his meta, so I have no idea if that's the sorta gamble he'd go for. Not sure what it means about Bizz. Let's see. This means Bizz isn't necessarily the player the scum targeted with their NK, so Bizz is also not-cleared? Of course it's entirely possible that scum did in fact target Bizz, but I think it'd make more sense that they try to NK the Restorer rather than someone who merely looks very townie. Basically it introduces uncertainty into everything; ugh. I can't even think about things coherently right now and I should go to bed but I probably won't because I'm dumb and I gotta catch 'em all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Yeah tbh, I kinda figured you would be prime mafia target out of anyone else. But see, I dunno if scum figured that there would likely be a protective role on you and decided to kill someone else? At least, that would have been my train of thought if I were scum, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 and I gotta catch 'em all same try not to get too caught up into the kill spec. we have the info that we have and there's not much we can do about it. only the mafia knows who they targeted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 also I still think BBM is town. and I think eclipse is town. this is important because I might not be around much tomorrow. maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 I outed my townreads but those are the important townreads. important. the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euklyd Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Yeah, I am kinda doubting that killspec can tell us anything except that we can't be certain of anything... Also someone tell me exactly what's wrong with Eury claiming? It means that we no longer are assuming that BBM and Bizz are confirmed town when they maybe shouldn't be. Eury's doc shot was already used up, and couldn't be refilled without me knowing to target her. Is it that the mafia now knows that the doc shot is used up? Wouldn't they already know that, since their NK failed? Unless of course they did target Bizz for the NK, in which case they wouldn't know that... ugh killspec is everywhere... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 trust me. bed time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 eury claiming means the doc (if that's what he is claiming) is out which I guess doesn't mean as much since we're all only one-shot but it still sucks because now the doc is out. I have a role restriction and my townreads are important these are two reasons why you should trust me but I'm not claiming until I either a) flip or b) [spoilers] and the way bbm has been acting seems town so I wouldn't worry about him. or me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 I can't help but think there's something to Euklyd's last post, especially after the claim. It's not worth discussing today since I need to dwell on it some more. @poly, why is it necessary to prove duplicate roles exist? @kirsche, I think eclipse gambit case is too much of a stretch. Scum poisoner would basically be a second delayed night kill, so why waste it on somebody who doesn't have much content and is a probable lynch candidate? How likely would it be that two scum would claim investigation roles? If princess flips scum that may well clear poly/shinori. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkirsche Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Except you were arguing earlier that she chose Troll because there would be less controversy. That's not the same thing. You also said that she didn't choose Scorri or Baldrick because there'd be less scum benefit in it. If she was trying to look at it from WHAT LOOKS TOWNIEST, why would that have been a reason for her not killing them? You're just taking any excuse to attack Eclipse at this point. In case my vote didn't carry over after the sub, ##Vote: Kirsche How is it not the same thing? My point is that she was trying to create as little controversy as possible to avoid suspicion while taking out someone who was actually active and contributing. My theory is that she's trying to look as towny as possible while hurting the town as much as possible? Her using rolespec further worries me. I'm not even really sure I'd call this a gambit. What is she gambling on? The fact that someone like me wouldn't just sit back and let her coast by on rolespec. Also I get the impression that people think this is the only reason I'm voting her, which it isn't. She didn't really scumhunt at all D1, had a terribad BBM case and was saying very un-eclipse like things such as "I don't see pursuing this scum read as important". Don't assume things about my role. I made a logical conclusion based off of what I saw in the thread, that's not an assumption. If someone says "I knew it was eclipse who targetted me last night" then obviously I'm going to think they were told that you targetted them. Admittedly I missed the tracker claim because I wasn't really reading them thoroughly, my bad. Still, there is a scum aspect of your target and I'd like to pursue it/hear an explanation for it. Why did you choose Troll over BBM? My Poly vote didn't come "from nowhere"; read it. It did though, the things you had said about Poly before that included "I'm annoyed at him for paying attention to Rp board and Fe4 thread over this game" and "I have no idea why you have Shinori down as null when you agree with his logic, nor do I care for the "pat on the back" in regards to Bizz." These are hardly strong reasons for a case D2 and you haven't analysed his reads like you said you would. Can we have votals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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