Healer Mafia - D6 ends on Dec. 15 at 8:00 PM HST

[MRDRHAWK]

Poly are you mafia hunting or arsonist hunting?

Both. I feel like Kirsche is the prime suspect for SK/arsonist/whatever ITP is out there, but there's a good chance that he's scum and once that's done I'll have a better idea who else falls into town-threat status.

Also, I'm not going to vote you at all unless I'm sure you're scum, and even if PoE comes into play, I'd go Prims over you since he's being ambiguous as fuck about what exactly he does, unless I missed a claim of his at the end of D2.

Scorri, what'd you get last night results-wise? Or did you not send in a night action?

[scorri]

I sent in a night action and it succeeded. That's what I've got.

[Prims]

Hey I'm not gonna get too whiny about this but it's very important that I keep my no-mislynch record here so please don't play that PoE shit on me, thank you.

If you don't want to risk getting mislynched then don't join mafia games. This attitude is toxic and I'd rather Manix stay in the slot if you're going to do this because it makes the game unfun for other players.

Shin is the most likely arsonist imo. I'll re-read the thread tomorrow.

[Percivalé]

If you don't want to risk getting mislynched then don't join mafia games. This attitude is toxic and I'd rather Manix stay in the slot if you're going to do this because it makes the game unfun for other players.

I wasn't gonna mention it again.

[MRDRHAWK]

I sent in a night action and it succeeded. That's what I've got.

Who'd you target?

Also, Shinori, do you know who visited Elie? Or do you only know how many people visit your target on a given night?

[scorri]

Does it matter who I targeted? I'd prefer not to say for now since it doesn't affect anything.

[Shinori]

Only how many people. I don't know what they do or who they are.

[Percivalé]

I'm leaving for the night. I just flashbacked something awful and I don't want to say anything I regret. Sorry. I'll be back to read after class tomorrow.

[eclipse]

. . .and Manix subs back in for Bizz. I'll swap the crossed-out name later.

[Grace]

back for the party.

anyway yes, everything as previously mentioned by via. i'm sticking with the kirsche vote.

[Grace]

actually something I want to bring up which is interesting about my courier message

it said that the questions answered in the thread on past weren't posed by this courier. which is interesting, considering no one else has claimed getting a courier message each day. curious

thoughts people?

[Grace]

*on past days

wordssssss

[Prims]

It's very possible the courier is the arsonist, if it's not Kaoz.

[Grace]

yeah I had that thought myself but like

that still doesn't quite explain the vhaltz kill unless he just didn't mention that he got a message... brb iso'ing

[Grace]

although there's always the chance the arsonist can prime/kill on the same night. don't know though because it's rolespec to the extreme

vhaltz iso didn't bring anything up either

[Refa]

I targeted myself (yeah, I can do that because I'm fucking awesome) and Shin...kind of thought I'd die there honestly, and thought better me than himshutupok. So the part I wanted to tell you gays about was where me and SB were proven town to each other (albeit by role names only, so don't go WHAT ABOUT WHEN YOU VOTED SB OBVIOUS SCUM), and I can dig up some crumbs and stuff if you'd want, but I'd rather you guys do it/me not have to do it at all.

Oh, come on, Venno was Cop and didn't out his results at D3? Freakin' layabout, I could've bussed him and saved his life too. :\

##Vote: Kirsche

Pretty sure he's scum. Unmemorable and I REALLY don't like the way he attacked Manix yesterday. At least Elie voted him, Kirsche didn't even do that. Kirsche, do you think my slot is scum or not?

What's the point of voting someone who's already hammered?

hehehdrunkpeople

Okay, well, Venno dying just switched who has his power. BBM, safeguard me during this night phase. I'm Backup something alright... just not what I thought.

Yeah, that's smart, have BBM safeguard you instead of me bussing you (wait does this mean we're scumbuddies oh the verb is DRIVE right).

Alright, let me see if I've pieced all this together. We can more or less clear the combination of Refa/Scorri/Shinori/BBM/Elie/Shin/Kaoz/myself as town right now for varying reasons (confirmed roles, Venno's Cop clearance). This leaves at least one of Prims/Bizz/Kirsche as scum/SK (probably two of the three, but maybe that group is the whole thing? A 14/3/1 or 15/2/1 setup seems very odd IMO).

I don't get it, how do you have so many clears? Also considering I can self target, unless your result tells you when you get redirected, it would be very hard to clear scum!me (which is a total myth BTW don't buy into the LIES)! And seriously what is kaoz doing there lol what if HE is the arsonokthatwouldjustbestupid but really. Shinori I can see why someone would have a strong townread on (although considering Vhaltz was scum and he enabled the Eury lynch in the first place, I'd think all bets would be off on his towniness), but what about scorri/BBM/Elieson/Shin? Why do you think that they're cle...wait, did you actually get Venno's scans or picked up on any crumbs? I was too lazy to read his posts.

Shin is the most likely arsonist imo. I'll re-read the thread tomorrow.

But wouldn't you be the most likely arsonist because an arsonist prims ok I'll shut up now

But real talk, I would be very amused if Shin targeted me! Not sure how arsonist play goes, would he not want his primed targets to get killed beforehand because if that is the case might want to look at his townreads. Also I don't even get how prim(s)ing works, besides the fact that it goes through doc protection...of which there is none. Like does the arsonist have to kill all of their targets at once, does it go through redirects, how does this explain there being only 1 kill on N1 and 2 on N2?

Actually, why is Shin more likely to be arsonist than everyone else? Eh, I'm still bothered the most by Shinori/Poly atm (Poly less so now because considering my role, I don't think Eclipse would tie a scum role to town role but setup spec also it's only really FMPOV which is fine by me) in regards to ITP spec atm. I'll get my reads in order in a post or something, whenever it's not 3AM in the morning (that time of the day when my scumhunting is at its weakest, trufax gays).

[Zkirsche]

Kaoz are you having fun?

At least Elie voted him, Kirsche didn't even do that. Kirsche, do you think my slot is scum or not?

Voting him would do nothing because Grass was getting lynched (courtesy of Refa here). I DID think you were scum but if we're to assume the courier's messages are priming people then that fixed result actually does make sense and the mixup is what made me suspect you/your slot. There's so much shit happening with roles that I'm getting lost easily, so something as concrete as a contradictory result was honestly the best thing I had. Your play yesterday was still horrible though, but after seeing Eury pull equally misleading shit in PiG and being town and that I didn't really see you as scum before D3 (you were null-leaning town from the few posts I bothered to not skim just FYI) I can let it go, but I have my eyes on you.

Did venno really crumb alignment cop that hard though? I'm just wondering because he would've looked like a solid mislynch target and there are other powerful roles floating about(Safeguard, Voyeur, Driver) and it's making me paranoid.

I know I haven't been exactly memorable but I swear Shinori/BBM have just been coasting by ever since they claimed and reading Scorri's recent ISO I have no idea who she suspects and neither she nor Refa has a vote down. Can everyone post who they find scummy? I have lost where half the game stands on everyone else and that's important for scumhunting.

From a N3 reread and his stuff D4, I think the person I'm least happy with is Poly. He's been rolefishing/target fishing (me yesterday, he's tried to get Prims' and Scorri's targets and on of the reasons he thinks Scorri might be lying is that she hasn't claimed) more than he should and I feel like his cases are really bad. For instance, he's currently voting me because I "haven't made many posts" and PoE. Has he once ever even tried to criticise my content over the amount of it? No. Also this stuff reads really defensive for not a lot of pressure:

stop trying to mislynch me every damn time. ;_;

It's called autism gives me shittily convoluted thought processes which make me look sketchy because it's not entirely obvious that I think in a different way, especially on the Internet

and he has been spedning a lot of time making up theories which just don't make sense such as the "who killed Vhaltz" debacle.

tl;dr ##Vote:Polydueces

Poly >> BBM > Other people*

*Pending other people's suspects.

[BBM]

D3 ended early and the majority of the activity happened during times when I was either sleeping or at class.

Cop was basically confirmed to be in the setup with Miller claim + Godfather flip so I can see why the mafia would have killed Venno if they caught the crumbs (though I was again hoping they would just try hooking him or something). Also, Voyeur and Safeguard aren't even strong roles so ???

Woke up late and have to get to exam but right now I'm thinking either Poly or Refa. Both are somewhat through PoE, but Poly's super eagerness to claim Backup Cop sits wrong with me, as do his constant attempts to declare himself confirmed town. Backup Cop is like super-easy to claim and BS if you're scum; he's not proven town. I did think he was likely to be town earlier but IIRC Prims said something about Poly wanting to jump the gun with bussing in Unnamed. I'll reread his posts in the afternoon.

[Elieson]

It's very possible the courier is the arsonist, if it's not Kaoz.

Thinking this. Shinori what was your n2 result again?

Also manix I'm sorry if I got under your skin yesterphase, I said some rude things unintentionally, so an apology is in order. I'm obviously gay.

Third, I have something but shinori needs to out his n2 info for me first

[Elieson]

I mean n1

[Elieson]

Actually I.figured out how to iso on my phone, it's just horribly difficult.

Prims was (somehow) courier'd on n2 and manix couldn't see it. Manix did see prims get primed, but not courier'd. Courier was on SB on n1 but no one checked him afaik. Vhaltz died n2, but didn't indicate being courier'd any time previously. With all that, I dunno because if arsonist Prime+Courier'd SB on n1 then how did Vhaltz die n2?

[Elieson]

Unless I'm a derp and why am I thinking that if arsonist is also courier, that both a prime+message have to go to the same target so nvm on that theory

[Grace]

i was going to make a post saying "kirsche why didn't you answer the question" but when i read his post a second time i realized the first paragraph actually did answer it, to an extent

my brain is so frazzled. if i find enough brainpower to process things properly, i'll post again before tomorrow but there's no guarantee

[Grace]

brainpower while trying to sleep OP

i can explain the vhaltz kill n2 if elie outs his full n2 target set

i was thinking "the courier and the prime are probably separate", but then i remembered our balls high amount of redirection.

(basically the gist is is that the mafia actually killed their own partner because they got redirected, and sb was the arsonist kill. which then makes all the courier targets primed. did i mention i have reason to think i was primed last night? yeah that too)

[Grace]

also the courier not showing up on my reports actually kinda makes sense if they are tied to the prime

which makes me think that courierman is lying about those questions that weren't asked by him. now who could it be.