Baldrick Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 - Bear claimed Green's Shin vote made no sense, then said her shin reasoning was borrowed off Refa. There's no mention on how he feels about Refa - The points about her self-conscoiusness then tone change don't mesh well. If she was faking it, dropping it so suddenly would be worse than if she didn't bother with it at all. Feels like filler to me. - He criticises her Eclipse case for not finding scum intent, which is strange because she was accusing eclipse of active lurking, which is what he was accusing her of. His approach to the ed2 was bad, much of it was actionspec which is helpful since it cuts down on scum's ability to hide and can lead to logic chains like the one about green being roleblocked, which makes our guesswork more educated. After he kinda-sorta dismisses the case on green, he doesn't vote eli because he's inactive and it wouldn't do much, but it's doing even less on green if he's not interested in pushing her. At the very least he could have talked about eli since he was shamelessly sheeping BBM. ##vote: bear I will be back in the morning before phase end. I would consolidate on kopf (or SB/BBM if a case developed) because a mafia non-kill happened and their being scum is a possible explanation for it. It's rather lame, but it's better than a last-minute random turbolynch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Poet Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Kopf, if you're able to post before phase end, please give your reads, especially on bear, and explain why you felt it was necessary to claim when the day started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I wish scumreads existed for me rn. I really don't want to lynch Kopf, Eury is coming across kind of scummy so I would vote her if necessary I guess... Also I'm unsure where the scum intent in my posts is, playing bad =\= scum last i heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 bearclaw, who are the four people you'd think are most likely to be scum? Also sorry I flaked, I totally deserve to be called out on that (I didn't even have any excuses), continuing my reread of the thread now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 ##unvote ##Vote: Eury Better than GP rn. Kopf should shoot eli. I'm probably out until past phase end btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 You should ISO those people and vote whoever you think is scummiest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 bearclaw, who are the four people you'd think are most likely to be scum? Also sorry I flaked, I totally deserve to be called out on that (I didn't even have any excuses), continuing my reread of the thread now. Saw this. Eli > Eury > Shinori (haven't gotten around to reading him though) > GP (I'm still not convinced) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Kopfjager (3): Shin, Flan, Eurykins bearclaw (3): Green Poet, Refa, Baldrick Eurykins (2): SB, bearclaw Elieson (1): BBM SB (1): Shinori Not Voting (4): kirsche, Kopfjager, scorri, Elieson 3 hours I'm prepared to lynch bearclaw over Wen but I'd really rather lynch Eury. If either of Wen/bearclaw are here, they should fullclaim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 yeah sorry guys I just got Civ 5 and have been playing that I won't go Shinori-modo I sware ##Unvote, ##Vote: Bearclaw Bearclaw's effort levels have majorly tanked since when he subbed in- normally with subs that means that the first flurry of posts was stuff they had to say from before they subbed in, when they were just skimming the thread, and then they don't care enough to reread more thoroughly- which generally happens more often with scum. Eury lynch is fine too. It's my mom's birthday so I'm going out for dinner and might not be here for phase end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 In bearclaw's only scum game here though he was trying to be Super Helpful though so ???. I don't think "lack of effort considering he's a sub" is a good case at all on him especially considering that other players are putting in way less. Honestly Boron's posts yesterday read completely genuine to me and I'm null on Bear's posts. I would lynch him over Wen due to a vig claim but I'd really rather axe Eury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I ain't lynching Eury because it seems like an awful idea. ##Unvote: ##Vote: Bearclaw. I honsetly am just lynching this for the whole X > Y scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 ##unvote ##vote: me! Wagoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 You no claim or just saying that you're scum or something? What did i miss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Why is lynching Eury a bad idea? Pretty much all you've said on the subject is that there wouldn't be many associative reads from it so we should lynch someone more else instead. Interactions don't matter if we lynch scum anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 bearclaw what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Poet Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I ain't lynching Eury because it seems like an awful idea. Assuming Wen really is vig, he's all but certain to target Eury tonight. We'll have enough information to tell who's scum between the two of them tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Assuming Wen really is vig, he's all but certain to target Eury tonight. We'll have enough information to tell who's scum between the two of them tomorrow. except there's no 1v1 between the two of them so really we won't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Poet Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 except there's no 1v1 between the two of them so really we won't? I assumed he would since Eury seems to be the biggest proponent against him right now :/ Also, bearclaw, what? Are you claiming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 What the hell, Wen shouldn't vig active players, he should be vigging like freaking kirsche/Elieson/insert inactive player here (wait that's me DAMMIT). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I claim that eli is scum. I'm not scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 insert inactive player here (wait that's me DAMMIT). >has the highest postcount of any living player bearclaw are you claiming cop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 bearclaw what yeah he's scum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDRHAWK Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I'm super-confused right now so ##Unvote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Look, the only reason town selfvotes in my experience is that 1) They're super upset at the game which clearly wasn't the case with bearclaw or 2) Ha, I got you there was no other reason sucker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Also if he got a cop scan that claimed Elieson was scum he would've outed that a lot earlier as town? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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