Kamen Rider Ryuuki Mafia - Game Over

[Percivalé]

ilu bal

[13th]

Now now, I suggest that we discuss more about the players who we think that might be scum/judge their behaviors. You know, if someone dies without saying anything, it's pointless. There's Clipsey's summary to help, too.

I'll just judge behaviors

In order of that player list.

1. D4V3 (Rein)

2. JB

3. eclipse

4. Core

5. Bizz

6. Kaoz

7. Nightmare

8. Kay

9. Rapier

11. Iris

12. Strawman

13. 13th

14. Sho

1: Dave Strider is, imo, the coolest bro in all of homestuck. However, this isn't Dave Strider, this is "Dave Strider" AKA Reinfleche or Luka M. He is the quiet person of the game, moreso than Nightmare and Kay. His posts can be jokefilled but when questioned, he makes somewhat meaningful posts before vanishing for hours at a time. He seems scummy to me for lack of meaningful activity here.

2: JBCWK is the kid who is almost constantly angry for some reason, but he makes meaningful posts when he does get on, along with some not meaningful posts, and a Shattered Honor RP post. We all got a kick out of that, but he seems pretty protown to me.

3: eclipse is probably the smart one here. She's often giggling at our antics, but she makes quality posts. I find her pretty protown.

4: Core. Core. Core. I can't make a good opinion on him. In the beginning he seemed scum, he seemed town for a bit, he then turned into a scummy appearance while seeming to defend Sho for a short time, then he appears town for a bit.

5: Bizz is the random one besides me, but she makes pretty quality posts, and shows her thoughts clearly (if not bluntly.) Protown.

AND... I just got told we're going to the movies, so I will continue upon my return.

Be back tonight.

[13th]

Back, but going out to dinner soon.

Going to try and finish the people before I go, though.

6: Kaoz recently subbed in, and hasn't really given me enough to read. But his playing style is helpful to learn things about what he thinks about others.

7: NIGHTMARE IS AWESOME. But in the game, he has said maybe 20 posts? But when it comes to post quality, he has been quite helpful. In terms of how I think on him, he gives me some decent town vibes, knowing he chooses what and when to say things. But that also has a slightly scummy vibe to it.

8: Kay. She's quiet, and while she once gave me amazing town vibes for some reason, now she is striking me in the middle. With so little to base it off of, I can't get a decent read off of her.

9: Rapier is one of the scummier-seeming ones at first. Refusing to scumhunt and sheeping didn't initially catch my attention, but ever since eclipse brought it up, it has bugged me to hell and back. But its his relentless pursuit of Sho's logic that gets me, even though Sho's defense of said logic seemed scummy to me also. He's giving me some decent scum vibes, and few town vibes now.

11: Iris has been extremely quiet, though she said she was having some IRL issues. She has been helpful posting Votals, but not TOO much information beyond opinions on me, Sho, and Blitz mainly. I want more info out of her.

12: Strawman has been quiet also, but he has been extremely helpful. I get quite a few town vibes.

13: 13th (oh the irony of this spot...) Hi. I'm not judging myself, it'd be biased.

14: Sho. His logic was actually pretty decent, IMO, but his defense, like a madman on crack, gave me MASSIVE scummy vibes. He's the scummiest one, IMO. But it's just me.

With that said, Dinner in the city awaits. I will return later. No use arguing QUITE yet, as I will probably not respond for another 2.5 hours.

[Deliriyum]

In other news, lets get this night phase finished up.

[riariadne]

Sorry for my activity being bad. I had a lot to do yesterday and stuff today too, and I sort of prioritized a few things over this (school is a thing).

I guess I can give some more thoughts while I have a bit of time. Generally this is in order, though within a color people are in the order of the player list.

1. D4V3 (Rein): Day 1 vote- Nightmare (forced). Hi.

12. Strawman: Day 1 vote- Blitz. I still think Strawman is seeming rather protown. He has made many good posts and seems helpful all-around.

6. Kaoz: Day 1 vote- n/a, sub didn't vote. Seems fairly protown so far, and is trying to get discussion started.

7. Nightmare: Day 1 vote- Blitz. Started slow, but has showed up and showed some good logic.

3. eclipse: Day 1 vote- Blitz. Has had pretty good logic so far, made the rather helpful summary posts, and had decent vote logic.

4. Core: Day 1 vote- Didn't vote. Seems alright so far. Has made a few points.

5. Bizz: Day 1 vote- Core. Has overall seemed reasonably good and expressed some fair points.

11. Iris: Day 1 vote- Didn't vote. Provided votals, and had some good opinions, but the votals could easily be padding to make it look like she was contributing a little more. Not too bad, though.

2. JB: Day 1 vote- Sho. Has, again, not made significantly more posts than I have, but some of them are good points. Others are kind of just there.

8. Kay: Day 1 vote- Sho. Kind of still sort of quiet. Not really looking super amazingly town, but not downright scummy.

9. Rapier: Day 1 vote- Sho. Sort of jumping around a bit. I'm having a hard time getting an opinion on him still.

14. Sho: Day 1 vote- Blitz. Some of his logic is still okay. But for the most part, I think I'm liking it less and less. Not really looking too good. ;/

13. 13th: Day 1 vote- Blitz. Easily the person I would have voted yesterday after the fool claim.

Right now, that's really all I have to say on the matter.

[eclipse]

This is Rein's post, but I made the colors darker, so it's easier for me to read.

Sorry for my activity being bad. I had a lot to do yesterday and stuff today too, and I sort of prioritized a few things over this (school is a thing).

I guess I can give some more thoughts while I have a bit of time. Generally this is in order, though within a color people are in the order of the player list.

1. D4V3 (Rein): Day 1 vote- Nightmare (forced). Hi.

12. Strawman: Day 1 vote- Blitz. I still think Strawman is seeming rather protown. He has made many good posts and seems helpful all-around.

6. Kaoz: Day 1 vote- n/a, sub didn't vote. Seems fairly protown so far, and is trying to get discussion started.

7. Nightmare: Day 1 vote- Blitz. Started slow, but has showed up and showed some good logic.

3. eclipse: Day 1 vote- Blitz. Has had pretty good logic so far, made the rather helpful summary posts, and had decent vote logic.

4. Core: Day 1 vote- Didn't vote. Seems alright so far. Has made a few points.

5. Bizz: Day 1 vote- Core. Has overall seemed reasonably good and expressed some fair points.

11. Iris: Day 1 vote- Didn't vote. Provided votals, and had some good opinions, but the votals could easily be padding to make it look like she was contributing a little more. Not too bad, though.

2. JB: Day 1 vote- Sho. Has, again, not made significantly more posts than I have, but some of them are good points. Others are kind of just there.

8. Kay: Day 1 vote- Sho. Kind of still sort of quiet. Not really looking super amazingly town, but not downright scummy.

9. Rapier: Day 1 vote- Sho. Sort of jumping around a bit. I'm having a hard time getting an opinion on him still.

14. Sho: Day 1 vote- Blitz. Some of his logic is still okay. But for the most part, I think I'm liking it less and less. Not really looking too good. ;/

13. 13th: Day 1 vote- Blitz. Easily the person I would have voted yesterday after the fool claim.

Right now, that's really all I have to say on the matter.

If I don't get bombarded with things from a certain RP, I'll do a recap of everything so far.

[Naglfar]

Five hours left. Still waiting on actions.

[eclipse]

BACK TO WHAT I DO BEST!!! If I die, at least I can say I was useful for 35 pages worth of summary.

Page 25: Strawman likes my summaries, and votes Sho for tunneling and shaky logic. Sho says his current theory on Nightmare has to do with him not saying much, and that he discarded his previous Nightmare logic when Sho claimed. Impressions and a vote for Sho by me. Core explains his previous "non-response". Rapier says he didn't refuse to scumhunt, and that Sho created this opportunity for himself. Shinori requests a sub. Sho claims he wanted to pressure Nightmare, not have him lynched. Clipsey-style multi-quoting. Sho says his past logic has nothing to do with why he wants Nightmare lynched now. Core makes his own scum tier list. I tell Sho that I'm using his past logic to scumhunt, and that he's conveniently ignoring everyone else. Sho's response. 13th wants Core to explain some of his choices, then unvotes Nightmare and votes Sho. Sho wonders why he's generally scummy. 13th, coherent mode.

Page 26: Sho wonders why Rapier keeps going back to the former's old theory. 13th thinks Sho is making no sense whatsoever. Sho unvotes 13th and votes Rapier. What the fuck, Core. 13th says that the past matters when scumhunting. Logic by 13th. I point out what I don't like about Sho's logic, and tell him to stop arguing timeline with the one who's making these bloody walls of text. Sho thinks Rapier's not making sense. What the fuck, Core, again. Sho. Strawman makes his own scum tier list, says that Rapier is making Sho look scummy, and that Rapier's logic isn't the best in the world, and unvotes because he can't decide what to do. Sho posts The Cycle of Rapier and Sho. I don't like the fact that it feels like the same mislynch is being pushed, and that the vig should shoot 13th. I don't feel like condensing this wall from 13th. Core thinks there's problems with a vig shooting 13th, and unvotes. 13th says that if a vig shoots him, he proves nothing? Sho thinks we're all overreacting. JB facehoof. Logic by Core, and that Sho is ranting because he has a new reason to want a Nightmare lynch.

Page 27: 13th doesn't think he'll live to see the next phase. Scroll down and read Sho rant again. Strawman notes that Sho never voted Nightmare. I said I want the vig to shoot 13th because he claimed persuader, so it's not like he's gonna blow up on said vig. JB explains why Sho's logic stinks and joins the crowd of confused people. 13th said that Sho's bad logic will haunt him for the rest of the game, and he did the persuasion to see what happens (A/N: Next time, persuade the second-scummiest person to vote for the scummiest person, if you really are aligned with the town). Sho whines that his bad logic is being used illogically, and that a persuader's target is less likely to be lynched. I reminded Sho that the town decides his fate, and that I thought he was scummy. Sho wants me to think that maybe he's not scum. Paperblade wins the page. 13th agrees with me. Blitz doesn't think there's a vig. I told Sho he's doing a terrible job convincing me he's not scummy. Core unvotes, and thinks both Rapier and Sho are town. 13th shows off his brilliant logic.

Page 28: Blitz asks someone to modkill Paperblade. Sho says his scumminess is based off of his old theory. Blitz thinks Sho is being Sho and that I'm being scummy. I demand an explanation. Blitz makes a couple of stupid posts before saying that my unwavering defense of Nightmare on N0 is scummy (I am not making this up). Sho thinks 13th is scummy, and votes for him. Logic by 13th. I unvote Sho and vote Blitz based on his awful logic. Core wants Blitz to respond so that it'll help him to decide who to vote for. Sho attempts votals twice. 13th thinks that Blitz's logic sucks, unvotes Sho, and votes for him. Sho does votals again. I tell 13th to stop shadowing me, then get ninja'd by Sho. Strawman attempts votals.

Page 29: 13th says he's following me because he also thinks that Blitz's logic fails. Core points out that Bizz voted for him, and I fail at votals. So does Sho (sorry). 13th fails at votals, then agrees to leave it to people who know what they're doing. Strawman said he'd read backwards to find out why Blitz was getting so many votes on him. Core's happy with a Blitz lynch. I asked Strawman if he's been reading my summaries. 13th thinks Blitz makes no sense. Iris is cranky, annoyed at the misspelling of persuader, asks about numbers, and updates votals. Strawman said he's gonna read backwards because Blitz has been talking. Core links himself and throws out some numbers. I throw out numbers. Iris fixes the votals and goes back to reading. 13th corrects the votal. Sho isn't gonna change his vote for the sake of Iris' votal. Strawman wonders if there's two mafias, and I say that 4/1/9 is a bastard setup (yes, mods, it is).

Page 30: 13th thinks 3/1/10 is most likely. JB facepalms at Blitz. Snike wants in~! Bizz doesn't understand some of Sho's logic, was forgotten by Strawman, and didn't have her vote counted. 13th goes to bed. Iris fixed the votal one last time and goes to bed. Strawman fixes his list. Sho summarizes his logic. Core steals the votal. JB throws numbers out there. Core forgot the rules . 13th and Iris suck at going to bed. Nightmare sweatdrops. Core wants to know what we're doing. Sho votes for Blitz out of self-preservation. Strawman votes for Blitz because he feels it's justified.

MY LAUNDRY CALLS. WILL CONTINUE THIS IN A BIT.

[eclipse]

DRYER IN USE. I AM BORED. ONWARDS!

Page 32: Sho takes a break. Kaoz is subbed in for Shinori, and Nags shows signs of being a bastard mod. I justify my bastard mod claim

[eclipse]

What the hell? Uh, lemme redo that. . .

[eclipse]

Page 31: Sho takes a break. Kaoz is subbed in for Shinori, and Nags shows signs of being a bastard mod. I justify my bastard mod claim. Nags does votals. Core miscalculated the end time. Told ya Kaoz is useful. My next post is a half-tease, half-serious one. Kaoz gives his impressions of everyone (I forgot to explain why he had to do it before the lynch. . .sorry). Nightmare gives his thoughts on 13th, Sho, and Blitz. Some explanations by Kay, and a vote for Sho right before phase end. PHASE END. Blitz was lynched as the mayor. I facepalm, then raeg about the host comments. Kaoz's grammar fails a little. Nightmare does a Paperblade.

Page 32: Kaoz calls for the opinions of everyone, now that we know what Blitz is. Rein facepalms. Rapier. Sho starts arguing again, and this stupid argument continues for a few more posts (SHO, WHAT DID I SAY ABOUT MARKING YOUR OWN ACTIONS AS SCUM/TOWN?) Kaoz facepalms at the metagame argument. 13th gives his thoughts about everyone. Sho's performance in Bizzaro doesn't count because he did all of nothing. Rapier gets frustrated, and doesn't realize that 13th was listing players in the order they signed up. This post worries me. Didn't we tell you that your logic sucks, Sho? Rapier decides I don't have enough to worry about, and posts this. The last four posts are a mix of personal insults, and 13th's opinion that Rein is a good pressure target, and Sho thinks Nightmare is a good pressure target.

Page 33: Kaoz tells Rapier and Sho to make themselves useful. 13th breaks down Sho's tirade. Sho decides to stop focusing on himself and gives his opinions on everyone else. 13th and Sho start arguing. I explain that Sho's logic was terrible, that he's defending it, and please don't do that. Rapier gives his opinions on everyone. Sho and Rapier restart arguing. Kaoz gets annoyed, and tries to do Sho a favor, which he ignores. Amusingly enough, Rapier doesn't analyze Sho's vote on Blitz. Rein needs to stop playing Skyward Sword, but gives his impressions on the votes for Blitz. Vote explanations by 13th. . .I'm REALLY not liking this. I give my own analysis of things.

Page 34: Sho misses the point again. I'm just linking this because I like the song, most of this page is a clusterfuck, just read everything in the vicinity of this post. Strawman makes the most intelligent post on this page so far. Sho makes a couple of sarcastic posts. Logic by 13th. Strawman wants the bickering to stop. 13th, eh. Sho wants to end this argument before a lynch is wasted? I'm too busy listening to Round and Round.

Page 35: Core makes a color-coded list that I can barely read (bright colors do that). Rapier asks if questioning bad logic is bad. Core thinks it isn't. Rapier's sticking to his guns. Core says not to assume someone's scum. Core was trying to do you a favor, dammit. Nightmare gives his thoughts about Sho's logic about him (wow, that sounds awkward). Sho STILl doesn't think it was a bad theory at the time (A/N: YES IT WAS). Logic by Core. Nightmare's connection goes weird. Rapier gets the damn hint. Strawman thinks that scumbuddies protecting each other on D1 is rather risky, but pointed out that FE4 town failed hard, so the mafia could get away with it. Rapier reminisces.

Page 36: Strawman reminisces. 13th wants to hear more from everyone else. Post more, Bizz, but not four times in a row. Summary by Sho. I think the majority of the players need to come in and talk more. Core, Bizz, and Iris are busy. I'm not happy about this. 13th's gonna be busy, Stop agreeing with everyone, 13th, especially since you agreed with me, then think I need to give more hard opinions. Sho finally talks sense. I'm not very happy with 13th, as his post quality went up, and he's agreeing with a lot more things. His explanation.

Page 37: 13th analyzes Sho. Sho and 13th start arguing over logic, and Strawman asks them to cut it the hell out. More ridiculousness by 13th and Sho, which does not deserve a link or a summary, because it's STUPID. Kaoz explains multiquoting. Kay talks sense. JB finally shows up and gives his opinions on Sho, the Blitz lynch, and his own activity. Nightmare regrets not voting for Sho. Kaoz posts his opinions of the Blitz lynch, and accidentally a word (find it). Sho says he'll STFU if someone will tell him what's wrong with his logic.

Page 38: Kaoz explains (were you in a hurry or something?) Sho agrees to STFU about it. 13th is gonna be a lot less active. Kay answers some questions. 13th posts something that doesn't make me feel weird. Rapier tries to explain, then realized he'd been ninja'd by Kaoz roughly three hours sooner. Nightmare is getting annoyed that people think he is lurking. I tell Nightmare that this game has a ton of posts, and lots of stuff happens. Balcerzak is eligible for a modkill while a sub. 13th splits his opinions about everyone across two posts. Rein color-codes his opinions of everyone. I quote them and change the colors a bit so I can actually read what he says. I do the next half of the summary, then hit Post prematurely. My bad.

Opinions and whatnot to follow. My clothes are still wet.

[eclipse]

In order of the player list:

1. D4V3 (Rein) - Color-coded list like Core, but didn't bold stuff. I like the fact that he put down who voted what at the end, as it's perfectly possible for the mafia to drive a mislynch by saying "So-and-so voted for a D1 mislynch, and I didn't, etc., etc."

2. JB - Stop having a life, dammit. Screaming at Sho aside, posted something that made sense, at least.

3. eclipse - Hi. At this rate, I'm never getting my laundry done.

4. Core - Most of his posts seem okay, but every now and then, he posts something that makes me cringe. I appreciate the color-coded list, though.

5. Bizz - Don't modkill me When she does post logic, it seems good.

6. Shinori Kaoz - Has been keeping a relatively calm head, which is very impressive. I do wonder about the sheer number of spelling errors, as this is not like him at all.

7. Nightmare - Doesn't like spam-style games, and I don't blame him in the least. He's leaning town IMO.

8. Kay - She's posting more, so that's good. I don't know if I like her habit of showing up to counter stuff without really giving much of her own input.

9. Rapier - After that debacle with Sho, and the repeated attempts to raise it, I'm getting some not-good feelings from him. I wasn't too happy with his reasons for his early pressure vote, either. . .but I seriously can't tell if this is because he's scum or just lazy.

11. Iris - Will be busy. Hasn't said much since. I see myself mentioned less, and this makes me a bit calmer. Her play style reminds me of mine, though. . .

12. Strawman - He's been trying to talk sense, despite the shitstorm going on around him. I'm not fully convinced about his Blitz lynch logic, though. I think there's a decent chance he's town.

13. 13th - I don't like the massive attitude shift. . .this doesn't feel like 13th at all. . .and FFS, I hope I'm wrong about this, and he really did get a lot better in a short amount of time.

14. Sho - I get the feeling that if I put anything negative about him, he's gonna scream. This is not good from my perspective. Being THAT reactive is bad for the town, especially if I assume he's a hotheaded townie; the mafia can simply point to how unreasonable he's being, and his own temper won't win him points from the town.

[Kaoz]

Kaoz gives his impressions of everyone (I forgot to explain why he had to do it before the lynch. . .sorry)

Maybe you want to do that now then?

[eclipse]

The reason why is because Blitz's alliance was unknown at the time. Therefore, your analysis couldn't be written with that knowledge in mind. Once something is known, it changes how the game is seen.

[Kaoz]

As expected then.

[Percivalé]

I'm too used to the CARA's automatic merging of multiple posts in a row, so multi-posts from my end may have to be tolerated a little longer, I'm afraid. Not only do I have trouble collecting my smaller, successive thoughts into one, but I happen to be more active around the time less people are posting. Normally I do not post more than three times in a row, but...

[Naglfar]

Bleh, I'll read the summary later. All actions are in. Phase end. There's only half an hour left anyway. Time to wait for Eclipse to tell me off when it turns out early phase endings like this aren't standard.

No posting yet.

[Naglfar]

A new day begins, and everyone gathers. As you're about to do a head count, one of you spots an envelope, and opens it. It's... a Role PM!

Dear Town,

This is a cake.

You all survived the night, so I've seen fit to give you a small gift of confectionery. Enjoy. Don't forget to share.

Sincerely,

Your Host

...You're not sure what to think.

It is now Day 2. Phase end: January 6th, 12pm GMT

[a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes]

Vote: 13th

because vig didn't do his/her job

[Kaoz]

Sho... you realize that there might be no Vig, right?

[Kay]

Well, that's great, but it doesn't give us a lot of new info. If there's any sort of Town Roleblocker, maybe they'll have something to say, at least.

[Kaoz]

Oh wait I think I misunderstood you...

[a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes]

Sho... you realize that there might be no Vig, right?

If its not platantly (is that a word?) obvious, thats what I am implying

[Jaybee]

I would have suggested pulling up numbers now that Night 1 is over, but there weren't any kills. This kind of leads me to a few possible solutions.

1 - There is no vig. Rather likely, I guess, given how the vig DIDN'T SHOOT 13TH or the Vig, if he exists, could be someone who's been really busy and had no time to send in actions. Point against this is phase ended on time, and I suspect phase would have ended early if all night actions were in.

Which then leads to...

A - Mafia shot a bulletproof.

B - Mafia's target got protected by the doctor, in which case, nice job.

C - MAFIA GOT ROLEBLOCKED, in which case, nice job.

The second possibility is that there is a vig, in which case...

A - Vig is fucking retarded/busy. Not mutually exclusive.

B - Vig thinks 13th is town. People like Core and Bizz? IIRC, have said that they think 13th is town after his persuader/fool/persuader fiasco, which I don't really see but ok.

C - VIG/MAFIA GOT DOC'D/ROLEBLOCKED, SWAP OPTIONS AROUND

Thoughts, guys? My guess is there's no vig at all, which leads us to 10/3/1 or something, probably, but I'm not very sure on this hunch, so yeah.

[a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes]

If there is a vig, I don't like him :/

And I find vig existing a slim change.