Yume Nikki Mafia - Day 3

[Eurykins]

**and I'm actually knida kinda confused in how you came to that conclusion

Typos, so good.

[Sunwoo]

Just because I made a bad associative read doesn't mean all associative reads are bad? I mean SB's not even voting Shin for that, and you've stated no other problems with his Shin vote, so do you think his vote there is fine?

(also game theory but I think scum is far more likely to buddy with town than scum, especially on D1)

First of all, that's not even what I said. You don't have to be scum buddies to come off as "hard defending" someone from what you feel is a bad vote. SB's "Shin and Poly for scum buddies" comment is bad because it came at a time when it's way too early to start calling people scum buddies. I'm not saying SB should've ignored Shin and Poly's "buddying", make a note of it that it'd be worthwhile looking into one if the other flips scum. But actually saying they're scum buddies looks like you're lining up lynches in the event one did flip scum.

Also, did you even read my vote on SB? I'm voting SB primarily because I didn't like his previous vote on POLY. The actual reason he gave for voting Shin in the post he voted him is ??? (it said something about Shin's meta and defending Poly for being Poly???). I mean, SB gave other reasons for voting Shin that I am okay with, but SB's trying to link Poly and Shin this early as scum buddies, as to what I'd already said about why I disliked his Poly vote are just ~that~ bad to me.

Randa, please be more committal in your opinions and give more reasons. You asked me some things, but do you even have an opinion of me? If you feel weird about BBM, figure out why and tell us why. Also, explain WHY you think Scarlet's vote is bad because all I've seen you say on him is "the vote is bad, no doubt about it". Feels like he's also asking a lot of questions but not really doing anything with the answers, which is def scummy.

As for my stance on Poly, I'm still not sure what's making him look so bad. I'll probably reread him when I'm in a less shit mood, but I really don't understand what's so ~wrong~ with the reasons that he gave at the time.

[Scarlet]

So I go to sleep and what is this

Regarding Kay, as others have correctly stated by now, I was just asking her to expound on her reasoning because the line I quoted was terribly vague. That does in no way exclude the possibility of me agreeing with that same reasoning (I did).

It feels like Raymond's vote on Marth is to appease BBM whilst he's being attacked by him. Why didn't you vote for Marth when he'd first made the post rather than leave it until later, considering you were completely voteless at one point?

Uh, how was that an "attack"? It looked like a pressure vote to me more than anything.

As for being completely voteless at one point instead of voting Marth right away, I was pondering what to do, and BBMs questions helped me sort that out (in particular, as I mentioned, I wasn't sure what to make of you and Mitsuki in comparison to him). Call it bad play if you want, it probably was.

I'm not a huge fan of Kay just popping in with a one-liner and a vote, but I also don't like how Raymond jumped on it right away demanding reasoning.

What did you dislike about it?

He also seems waffly in terms of the Elie thing, but I liked how he handled the whole thing.

Please expound, because that seems like a contradiction in itself.

His Marth vote - which was essentially sheeping Kay - is kinda bad though.

How is it sheeping and why is it bad?

Elie, why are you going on about Shin's selfvote? He probably still thought it was RVS (as evidenced by the way it was worded, almost as a reply to my RVS vote), plus... it's Shin. That sort of thing this early is null, especially for him. Elie in particular, what about Refa's last post is paranoid to you?

It's not null - as town, a self-vote at any point is anti-town, as you're voting to lynch the only person whom you know is confirmed town (yourself) and are doing nothing to catch scum with it. Meta is not a good defense for something like this.

I also don't like the Marth targeting with his reaction test. It was pointless and I feel like we're wasting our time with it.

Overall, I'm null on him, but I feel like he's more likely to flip scum than town at this point. Still more comfortable with my vote on Elie for now, though.

Why do you feel the Marth wagon is pointless if you're leaning scum on him? That makes literally no sense.

Whilst SB has some valid points, I disagree with Poly being scummy, it feels more like Poly's standard "derp" play.

Meta should not take precedence over "valid points".

and had a bad Marth vote (sheeping Kay).

How was I sheeping her?

Raymond: The votes bad. No doubt about it. And looking back I really don't even see him try to justify it. I do see him prod people for better reads, but I don't think that's an alignment tell. Scum. Would definitely like an explanation.

How exactly is my vote bad? If there's no doubt about it, surely you can point out why.

Eli: Don't think he's scum. Not sure he's town but I'm kinda solidly Null on him.

Maybe I'm harping on the wording of this one too much, but that seems like a bit of a contradiction. If you don't think he's scum, the only direction other than town he could go in is ITP. Do you think he might be ITP?

This doesn't accomplish anything when we are barely out of RVS and you could be contributing to the discussion about Elie and Marth.

How does asking other people to expound on vague reads not accomplish anything? What point in the game this occurs in shouldn't matter at all.

Not liking Randa's "mega post" at all. He's just quoting people and slinging mud at them without really giving any opinions or conclusions of his own about them.

The reason why he voted Marth when his entire post only mentions him for ten seconds. After focusing of Eli and Refa Wagon.

That post was mostly a response to BBM, with my Marth vote being my conclusion from my own answers, so I don't really get what's so bad about the part about Elie and Refa being larger than the part about Marth.

I have no idea what the current votals are, so for the time being:

##Unvote

##PutToRest: Polydeuces

Too many contradictions, too much waffling. The buddying with Shin as pointed out by SB is also worth noting, although currently Shin himself reads more like bored noobtown to me than scum.

Also disliking Randa for giving me the impression that he's trying to shove attention from himself towards everyone else without really giving opinions of his own.

Not quite sure about Marth at this point, but I'm not really scumreading him atm (town make weak votes on occassion, too, especially early in the game). I feel he needs to be more proactive, though.

Feeling good about SB. His contributions seem fine and I find myself agreeing with a lot of his points.

Current lynch priority:

Poly = Randa > everyone else > SB

[Bluedoom]

Anyway from wagon analysis:

Boron: I feel like your timing of the vote was kind of convenient since it happened when other people were also questioning me. Like, I felt you could've voted me for the same reasons 4 hours earlier when you asked me why I agreed with Sb's refa vote since the reasons you gave were valid even then.

I also don't like your SB case because you're misrepping him - there is nothing wrong in trying to attempt associative reading even if its ED1, and its not like he made blanket statements- he gave reasons for finding Shin and Poly scummy and possibly buddies. That's way better than just calling someone's case weak(as a blanket statement) and voting them, or voting people for inactivity and stuff. And SB is clearly not voting Poly for 'not having strong opinions this early' but more so because Poly's read on me seemed waffly.

However my scumread on you is not so strong as it should be since I feel if you were scum you would've just voteparked me and found more reasons to vote me instead of switching to SB. So this is more of a Null/ Leaning scum.

[Bluedoom]

Yeah still doing Raymond and Kay

[Bluedoom]

Raymond: Raymond is guilty of the same thing Boron is wrt his vote on me except he did state that he disliked my reasons for agreeing with SB's Refa vote before voting me, half an hour earlier. I don't really find him questioning Kay and then voting me for similar reasons scummy, but I do think his

"As for being completely voteless at one point instead of voting Marth right away, I was pondering what to do, and BBMs questions helped me sort that out (in particular, as I mentioned, I wasn't sure what to make of you and Mitsuki in comparison to him)."

is scummy because it sounds more like scum waiting for an opportunity to vote me.

I also dislike the Poly vote since he's hopping on to a wagon with 3 people on it already and his only other scumread is the guy who's voting him. The shift from his scumread on me to null!me is also bad since I hardly posted anything else other than my Polydecues vote at that time.

##Unvote ##Vote: Raymond

[Sunwoo]

Boron: I feel like your timing of the vote was kind of convenient since it happened when other people were also questioning me. Like, I felt you could've voted me for the same reasons 4 hours earlier when you asked me why I agreed with Sb's refa vote since the reasons you gave were valid even then.

I also don't like your SB case because you're misrepping him - there is nothing wrong in trying to attempt associative reading even if its ED1, and its not like he made blanket statements- he gave reasons for finding Shin and Poly scummy and possibly buddies. That's way better than just calling someone's case weak(as a blanket statement) and voting them, or voting people for inactivity and stuff. And SB is clearly not voting Poly for 'not having strong opinions this early' but more so because Poly's read on me seemed waffly.

However my scumread on you is not so strong as it should be since I feel if you were scum you would've just voteparked me and found more reasons to vote me instead of switching to SB. So this is more of a Null/ Leaning scum.

I'm sorry I have a life and wanted to go do other stuff for a few hours instead.

And I personally don't find issue with Poly's "waffly" read on you at the moment, because you know what - sometimes you just DON'T have strong reads on people at the time just because people ask you for an opinion on someone. When the game goes on, yeah, he should have a stronger read on you but for what existed at the time he wrote it I DON'T SEE THE ISSUE.

"Associate reads without flips on page 4" IS a problem. It's being tryhard and I find it grasping. Again, go read the previous times I said that I wouldn't have had a problem if he had made a note of it and said that if one flips scum the other would be worth looking into. But the way he's trying to link Poly and Shin already just screams of trying to line up lynches if one of them did turn scum. In other words, I disagree that there is nothing wrong with "attempt associative reading even if it's ED1". There's also such a thing is "blowing things out of proportion", which I feel SB is doing.

[Prims]

Day 1.3 - Votals

Scarlet (3) - BBM, Randa, Bluedoom

Shin (3) - Elieson, SB, Shinori

Elieson (2) - Polydeuces, Shin

Polydeuces (2) - scorri, Scarlet

Randa (2) - Eurykins, Refa

SB (2) - Mitsuki, Sangyul

Bluedoom (1) - Kay

Not Voting (1): bearclaw13

You have 47 hours and 25 minutes left in the day. With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

[Scarlet]

but I do think his

"As for being completely voteless at one point instead of voting Marth right away, I was pondering what to do, and BBMs questions helped me sort that out (in particular, as I mentioned, I wasn't sure what to make of you and Mitsuki in comparison to him)."

is scummy because it sounds more like scum waiting for an opportunity to vote me.

If I was scum, why would I go out of my way to wait for an opportunity to vote for you over someone like, say, Elie, who likewise had a small wagon on him at that point?

I also dislike the Poly vote since he's hopping on to a wagon with 3 people on it already and his only other scumread is the guy who's voting him.

So voting for anyone who already has votes on them is bad... ...how exactly?

Likewise, I'm not sure how having a scumread on someone who just so happens to be voting me is bad?

The shift from his scumread on me to null!me is also bad since I hardly posted anything else other than my Polydecues vote at that time.

I'm aware that you only made a single post in-between, but there's not as much of a shift there as you're making it out to be. In the grand scheme of things, a vote over something that happened barely out of RVS when people wagon the first player to do anything even remotely questionable holds much less weight to me than something that arises from actually scummy actions during actual discussion.

[Bluedoom]

Being tryhard can be a town thing too especially if people fool around early in the phase.

Also if you think Poly doesn't need to have a strong opinion then why is he voting Eli or what's up with his read on me because:

a) The Eli-Marth interactions should give him a better idea of our alignments. If he thinks Eli is scum for w/e those reason that I disagree with are, does he think he's scum who performed a reaction test on his buddy and his buddy returned a vote, or does he think I'm town being tested by scum. If its the latter, then the leaning scum on me is a contradiction, and if its the former, then that's still pushing it too far.

b) He doesn't like 2 out of the 3 votes on the Marthwagon, but he also thinks the wagonee is scummy? What, does he think wagonee's buddies are bussing him ED1?

Kay: I had a problem with Kay's one-liner and then a vote but her detailed explanation afterwards makes me think she might be town.

[Bluedoom]

If I was scum, why would I go out of my way to wait for an opportunity to vote for you over someone like, say, Elie, who likewise had a small wagon on him at that point?

So voting for anyone who already has votes on them is bad... ...how exactly?

Likewise, I'm not sure how having a scumread on someone who just so happens to be voting me is bad?

I'm aware that you only made a single post in-between, but there's not as much of a shift there as you're making it out to be. In the grand scheme of things, a vote over something that happened barely out of RVS when people wagon the first player to do anything even remotely questionable holds much less weight to me than something that arises from actually scummy actions during actual discussion.

Since Elie had 2 votes, one you saw as RVS, and one being a reactionary vote, it actually would be hard for you to make a case on Eli when others like Boron, SB and Kay were townreading/ nullreading him.

On the other hand people questioned me for agreeing with SB's Refa vote so it would've been easier for you to vote me.

Your case on Poly itself is actually lackluster because I can only spot one contradiction from Poly which you describe "He also seems waffly in terms of the Elie thing, but I liked how he handled the whole thing."

The rest of what you're saying is just questioning and Poly wasn't talking about my wagon, he was talking about Eli targeting me with his RT being pointless.

If you had more reads or analysis then scumreading the person who's voting you isn't bad, but so far your scumreads are only Poly and Randa, both of them not well explained IMO.

Your last point is a good explanation for your read shift on me though.

[Bluedoom]

Refa: I don't really see how my vote on Eli was hypocritical considering that I had reasons(even if they seemed weak/paranoid/grasping) while your vote on him literally had no reasons. That and I've found scum/3rd anticipating what they'd do before, see Naruto mafia and Persona 3 mafia.

Couldn't really respond to anything else at that time because I was busy for the rest of the day and then sleep time. Vote on me seems reasonable tbh and although I don't really feel the Randa case atm, it seems ok to me.

Elieson: Can't really get anything else out of him now. Thought I caught a scumslip but pushing it is hard since I'm now null-reading him.

Oh boy guys I pulled a Jurassic D1 but it looks like Imma pull a Quark now.

[charlie_]

don't have much time to respond to things

Also, here's something to note. SB says that he feels Marth is town, but Marth was also most likely the biggest wagon at the time the post was made. If you think the dude is town, why did you have no opinions on his wagon? If someone I felt was town was the biggest wagon at the time, I'd be looking at the people on that wagon.

I did look at the votes at the time and I almost agreed with them until I caught what I thought was a townslip, so there wasn't anything I found really wrong there.

Randa feels like he's doing an awkward listpost again like in SOH and the quotepost is kinda sheepy.

Mitsuki is striking me as off but I'm not really sure how and don't have time to figure it out. Same with Eury, kinda.

Marth why are you doing wagon analysis now? I missed a lot so I'll catch up properly later.

[Scarlet]

Since Elie had 2 votes, one you saw as RVS, and one being a reactionary vote, it actually would be hard for you to make a case on Eli when others like Boron, SB and Kay were townreading/ nullreading him.

Why would I care about others' townreads, considering there obviously was some support there? You'll hardly find a wagon that 100% of all players agree on.

Poly wasn't talking about my wagon, he was talking about Eli targeting me with his RT being pointless.

Oh, I misinterpreted that, then. Fair enough.

[Scarlet]

Also:

If you had more reads or analysis then scumreading the person who's voting you isn't bad, but so far your scumreads are only Poly and Randa, both of them not well explained IMO.

So my scumreads are not well explained. Again, though, do you see a scum intent behind this? Town can make weak cases, too.

[Kay]

I also don't like your SB case because you're misrepping him - there is nothing wrong in trying to attempt associative reading even if its ED1, and its not like he made blanket statements- he gave reasons for finding Shin and Poly scummy and possibly buddies.

Associative reads when there's so little basis for them are an easy way to invent or back up a scumread without requiring actual scummy content. In this case it's mostly just a somewhat silly diversion, but I wouldn't say there's nothing wrong with it.

(too tired to think well atm, will post realstuff tomorrow)

[Bluedoom]

@Kay: True but its not like you can instantly push without further analysis. I don't think SB's so dumb that if we lynched Shin and he flipped scum he'd lynch Poly without second thoughts. Prims play similarly as town too, I think someone(Refa?) has already mentioned this. Like, if he found Shin/Poly scum ONLY because of associative reads from the other's flip, then I can see that as scummy, but that isn't really the case here.

@Raymond: There wasn't actually support for an Eli wagon at that time(even though I assumed there would be later on, as you can see from my vote AND the ED1 Refa scumread) but there was possible support for my wagon hence its possible for scum to vote me. Also if your reads aren't well explained and you hop on to popular wagons atm, I see that as opportunistic and scummy.

@SB: Was analysing my wagon to see if scum was on it but now I think I'll analyse the whole playerlist because I'm bored.

Eurykins and Mitsuki: I feel like they were TRADING BLOWS but it seems more like town infighting to me. I mean Eurykins' Poly and Randa scumreads seem consistent. I disagree with Mitsuki's SB vote and reasons but it feels familiar to her SRSTOWN EM GAMEPLAY from whatever I've seen of her in EM( and it feels similar to Vhaltz's whose town play is similar so I guess I'm right with this read?)

BBM: Can't actually give a good read on him because he posted at a time when things were still sorta picking up. I feel slightly iffy by the fact that he was questioning/prodding other than the Raymon scumread.

Shin: I feel like the "lolPoly" defence from him is bad. Shin, its cool to see that you think Eli's case on you for your self vote was weak and grasping, but how is it different from my case on Refa, as far as weak/grasping goes? You haven't made any mention of my Refa case, so I'm wondering if there's bias kicking in for your Eli vote.

Raymond>Poly> Refa???(not confident of this atm). Tbh Poly's logic wrt his reads have never been coherent in the games I've played with him, and the only time he flipped scum was in SoH. The game where I went inactive after D1 lol.

I know I promised reads on the whole playerlist but my sis wants to use the comp so tata byebye, postin' later.

[Randa]

don't have much time to respond to things

I did look at the votes at the time and I almost agreed with them until I caught what I thought was a townslip, so there wasn't anything I found really wrong there.

Randa feels like he's doing an awkward listpost again like in SOH and the quotepost is kinda sheepy.

Mitsuki is striking me as off but I'm not really sure how and don't have time to figure it out. Same with Eury, kinda.

Marth why are you doing wagon analysis now? I missed a lot so I'll catch up properly later.

That's because I'm not good at list post. But if I don't do them, people say I'm not scum hunting hard enough so I must be scum. And if do them, they suck, so I must be scum. I don't win.

@Boron: I already my reasoning for my vote. He had a vote in which he gave no reasoning for, and he was talking about two other major points more so than Marth, but chose to vote Marth. Who he only mentioned at the end of his thoughts on Refa. Not mention that in his previous post he called out Kay for a poorly backed vote. That's why a shit vote. This is second time I've explained this.

Any other questions will have to wait till after the AP test.

[Scarlet]

That's because I'm not good at list post. But if I don't do them, people say I'm not scum hunting hard enough so I must be scum. And if do them, they suck, so I must be scum. I don't win.

There's so much wrong with this defense I don't even know where to start.

"List posts" and "scumhunting" are in no way related to each other. You can scumhunt without making list posts and you can make list posts without any of it actually being scumhunting. You did the latter, and that's bad.

Slinging mud at other people is not scumhunting.

@Boron: I already my reasoning for my vote. He had a vote in which he gave no reasoning for, and he was talking about two other major points more so than Marth, but chose to vote Marth. Who he only mentioned at the end of his thoughts on Refa. Not mention that in his previous post he called out Kay for a poorly backed vote. That's why a shit vote. This is second time I've explained this.

Any other questions will have to wait till after the AP test.

Absolutely no acknowledgement of my response to this?

[Mitsuki]

Good thing I can post stuff while everyone else is sleeping, it makes me so nervous to see that new posts keep appearing while I'm making mine...

##Unvote

I think SB is town.
His reply to my case felt very genuine as opposed to what I'd expect from scum!SB, and I understood why he's doing the stuff he's doing.

As for why associative reads are bad when none of the players have flipped, it's simply a matter of statistics. It's much more unlikely that you'll find a link between two players than a player being scum.

Eury, I won't play any victim card nor I do have any problem with you (If I did it'd be obvious). I plainly stated what I felt.

Willing to bet you rolled scum. I slightly question the Elie read.

I think you misunderstood what I wanted to say. Sorry for not wording it properly, what I meant is that Elieson's test didn't make him scum, not that it made him town.

With regards to claiming town, I was trying to WIFOM Vhaltz (and not anyone else) to make him think I was scum because of some previous stuff we talked about. I can explain it if you want.

Still, I'm quoting this because the "willing to bet you rolled scum" feels scummy to me. As seen in Shinori's lynch priority in the bottom of this post he doesn't have me listed in spite of saying so. Why did he say it, then? If he really believed in what he said I'd expect him to at least try to analyze my posts and give some read on me (even if it's a nullread), which he hasn't done because he doesn't mention me again.

Some of the points he brings up about other players in the post I linked seem weak to me as well. Mostly this one:

Why is your response to someone 'in jest' in the middle of the game heating up? Especially if your 'jesting' post sounds massively like a scum vibe on said person. You can't just brush off that you sound like your scum reading someone by just going 'Oh I was just joking."

I went back to read what Shin had said about me and I clearly saw it was a joke. I don't think it seemed like he had such a big scumread on me either, to me it didn't seem like he was scumreading me at all.

It also feels like Shinori is saying a personal posting style is scummy, which is plainly wrong.

Still, I don't think what I pointed out is that strong, so I'd say Shinori is null towards scum.

But please do cherry pick your reasons, the harvest is apparently lacking!

I don't like the sarcasm here, it feels like scum anger. Shin is trying to discredit the points that are brought up against him with a personal attack. I see town getting frustrated as well, but I expect the reaction to be different; something that gives more the feeling that they aren't concerned about what people are thinking about them other than being frustrated because, after all, they know they're town. In that sense, this is exactly the opposite.

You mention my defense of Poly, but you're making quite a deal of defending Eli!

This is a fallacy and therefore bad but it also gives me scum vibes. It's similar to the previous quote, it's trying to discredit the attacker with non legit reasons. I expect town would leave this kind of thing out of their answer and focus on explaining the reasoning behind whatever they were being suspected for instead.

I still have more stuff to analyze/say so I might change my vote if I feel it's stronger. Still, this is already long enough, so:

##Vote: Shin

SB is voting Shin as well, right? GOOD.

[BBM]

Sorry guys, I came home, ate, and then completely crashed last night.

I still think Raymond was sort of weird regarding Kay because there was very little he said that Kay didn't, but I think his more recent posts are better.

##Unvote, ##Vote: Shin

While I get what Shin was trying to say wrt Elie's vote on him, it still completely misses the point. He was different from the other inactives in that he posted something not useful in a stage of the game where relevant things had begun to be said. He also makes a big deal about Elie talking about why Shin is worse than scorri specifically, and even if Shin was just throwing scorri out as an example, it's perfectly valid for Elie to then use scorri again as the example. Also that whole line of defence just felt like trying to redirect attention. It's also literally all he's talked about, even from Elie's content, and the bit about "I can't see how town!Elie would ever make that vote" feels like a justification to not have to look at anything else Elie has done, other than the Shin vote.

Shin, what did you think of Elie's initial test on Marth?

I think Mitsuki could be scum. She's harping on a couple small one-line jokeposts by SB and that's basically all her content.

[BBM]

rage ninja'd by Mitsuki ignore that bit then

[BBM]

Also Boron is correct about assocative reads without a flip being bad, but she's still wrong about SB js. Boron, SB has reasons for why Poly and Shin are suspicious on their own and is then bolstering that with what he thinks is like scum buddying.

Boron, do you think Shinori is scummy?

A question I forgot to ask Marth- early on, if Elie was going to be a wagon regardless of alignment, why did you choose to vote for him over Refa? If you have two scumreads and can't vote both, doesn't it make sense to vote the one without the wagon on him to get more pressure going there?

[Prims]

Day 1.4 - Votals

Shin (5) - Elieson, SB, Shinori, Mitsuki, BBM

Elieson (2) - Polydeuces, Shin

Polydeuces (2) - scorri, Scarlet

Randa (2) - Eurykins, Refa

Scarlet (2) - Randa, Bluedoom

Bluedoom (1) - Kay

SB (1) - Sangyul

Not Voting (1): bearclaw13

You have 41 hours and 25 minutes left in the day. With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

Edited May 7, 2014 by Prims

[Sunwoo]

I want to go to sleep ;_;

Also Boron is correct about assocative reads without a flip being bad, but she's still wrong about SB js. Boron, SB has reasons for why Poly and Shin are suspicious on their own and is then bolstering that with what he thinks is like scum buddying.

That's, like, your opinion man.

In all seriousness, I'm not getting good feelings from SB right now and I stand by my suspicions until something changes it. If one of Shin or Poly flips scum, then I'll rethink my case on him. But right now, I have my reasons as to why I don't like what he's been doing and why I find scum intent in it.

Also, he's perfectly fine to find Shin and Poly suspicious on their own. But trying to link them as scum buddies WITHOUT A FLIP is still a bad thing to do on ED1. I find the interaction between SB and Elieson to be quite noteworthy, and Elie is another one of my scum reads right now. Guess I'd better call SB and Elieson scum buddies, eh?

Boron, do you think Shinori is scummy?

Nothing specific is pinging me as of now, but I feel that he could have elaborated more on stuff not related to SB and Shin. Such as why he doesn't like Scarlet's vote, and what his opinions on Mitsuki are (since he has thoughts on Eury). I guess he's more null than anything right now.