BBM Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 It seems like a Clarinets lynch is happening. There are worse lynches but my gut is still that Clarinets is town. I can't fault Mancer for being sick and not posting but between the two I still think that Mancer has shown more scum intent. Clarinets has moreso just shown a lack of content and indecision- that's essentially what most of the votes against him boil down to. As far as OUTSIDE TURBOLYNCHES go I'd be down for Shinori; his Refa vote bugs me. I'm not sure why he's voting Refa over Clarinets. I feel like it's an attempt at avoiding being on one of the main wagons. Also someone asked me whether I'm still suspicious of Izhuark. I'm wary but it's not a scumread? I'm looking for and at his posts more carefully than some other people's posts, but seeing as he has no non-RVS content, there's better stuff to go after at the moment. Clarinets should claim btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
🔥YOLOSWAG🔥 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 college all day. ill b checking sporadically but id def go mancer before clarinets. may hav time to properly read whats been said since my last post but in the hopes of lynching someone i both find scummy and has a chance of dying ##vote mancer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Don't like Clarinets' eclipse vote, he used BBM's issues with Eclipse but failed to look at the context or any of the followups (not to mention that BBM wasn't scumreading Eclipse based off of those issues, so why would you sheep that)? That being said, why is Clarinets dismissing a case on himself scummy, Boron? It's bad play, but I think (in this case) it's more likely to come from town because he was actively doing so rather than just passively ignoring her case. LG, BBM later explained his RVS question like three posts down, what do you think of that? Don't think your actual Clarinets case is scummy but...I dunno, I have a bad gut feeling about it, like you're not really willing to hear him out. Also what I said doesn't really bolster my own towncred because scum can be busy IRL too, if anything it was more to explain a suspicion on your slot. You're making a lot of assumptions on Mancer's part to come to the conclusion that he's not scummy. As I was rereading through Shinori's earlier posts, I thought "wow, this is lacking in content and he doesn't seem particularly convinced of a scumread on me" but he...just says that here? So I'm null on that (maybe he's townier for it because I'm not sure if he'd be so genuine as scum) but what bothers me is that his slot just mentioned Clarinets' fencesitting and that alone would be enough for consolidation. Shinori, what do you think of the other Clarinets cases? I'd be most okay with lynching Mancer and would like to hear more from LG/Shinori (if I had to pick another lynch target, then LG), not so much Clarinets despite my aforementioned issues with him because...there wasn't enough resistance to his wagon (I dunno how to explain it better than that). I can't see Clarinets being scum without like his entire scumteam bussing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Clarinets should claim btw. Also WRT this, I don't think he'll be on to claim? In a game that shall not be spoken of, he wasn't available to claim until 2:14PM my time (that's roughly 3 hours and 40 minutes from now). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Fuck, I don't like doing this, but I seriously doubt that Mancer's gonna come back in time. The reason why I said my vote on Mancer was a miscalculation is because he's in my trinity. And since the third member of my trinity finally showed up. . . REREAD YOUR ROLE PM, THREE TIMES What doesn't add up is the trinity power - if there's non-town in my trinity, it invalidates the trinity power. My original theory was that there was one mafia member per trinity (which is why I asked SB about it before the game started). However, after thinking about my role + trinity longer, I realized that it made no sense. That's why I want Mancer to stick around. I don't like rolespec, but this is to get the lynch off of someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 No clue of what that could be, but willing to trust you. If your trinity doesn't have any mafia members though, then that further increases my suspicions on Izhuark despite him having not done anything myself. ##Unvote ##Vote: Lord Gaius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoesMad Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 @Refa could you point out the post where he justifies his questioning? I couldn't find it on a second glance. And wrt Mancer, that's just how I see the situation and I don't want him lynched today. In addition to Eclipse's cut I guess. @Eclipse: In my final read on BBM I said that his questioning is scummy, but his play after wasn't. Reading up on other people now. I'm not gonna be around for deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 izhuark has requested a sub this request actually came this morning but i ran out of time to post it before i had to leave, my bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 @Refa could you point out the post where he justifies his questioning? I couldn't find it on a second glance. And wrt Mancer, that's just how I see the situation and I don't want him lynched today. In addition to Eclipse's cut I guess. Who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 @Refa: I think the other cases on clarinet are fine overall. That's also part of the reason im fine with consolidating on them. I just wanted to go after other people before hand and before phase end. Of which i liked my vote on you for a bit as its given me a bit stronger of a read on you. Shouldn't phase be ending soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I overslept. And I only have time to answer this one short thing before I head out: That being said, why is Clarinets dismissing a case on himself scummy, Boron? It's bad play, but I think (in this case) it's more likely to come from town because he was actively doing so rather than just passively ignoring her case. Dismissing the case feels like brushing it off as something that has no basis, like you don't know how to respond to it so you're just calling it weak and hoping that you won't dig yourself into a hole with your responses. It kind of sounds like a scum thing to do, to avoid potentially making themselves look bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) obligatory d1 protective role lynch votals(5) Clarinets: eclipse, MancerNecro, Crysta, Tiny Goddess, Boron(2) Mancer: BBM, Omega(1) eclipse: Clarinets(1) Omega: Lord Gaius(1) Refa: Shinori (1) Lord Gaius: Refa(1) Not Voting: Izuhark Clarinets, Town Bodyguard and Wild Card, was lynched Day One fixed name 24 hours and 3 minutes for night actions. Edited December 2, 2015 by SB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Hold on, I need to stop playing FE10 for a second. Anyways, amazing wagon analysis. (5) Clarinets: eclipse, MancerNecro, Crysta, Tiny Goddess, Boron(2) Mancer: BBM, Omega(1) Roxas: Tiny Goddess (I'm assuming this vote is a lie, please confirm whether or not it is SB)(1) eclipse: Clarinets(1) Omega: Lord Gaius(1) Refa: Shinori (1) Lord Gaius: Refa(1) Not Voting: Izhuark Eclipse is reading to me as town overall (even if I don't get her case on Clarinets really), and I think Boron/Crysta did a good job elaborating on their cases overall and pressuring Clarinets. Ordinarily, I'd say Mancer is the scum on the wagon but apparently Eclipse has a good reason to say that he's not scum so...yeah. The one on the wagon who makes the most sense as scum is TG. Anyways, BBM/Omega being town is less related to the wagon itself and more my own reads talking (so not going to dwell too much on that unless people want me too). Still think Lord Gaius is scum and looks worse off because he advocated for the wagon but didn't actually put his vote on it, despite being on before deadline (and it's not like he thought his read on YOLO was stronger, he just put it there to pressure the dude). Shinori, I'm...struggling to get a grasp on because he's really in the same camp as LG but I don't feel as confident about it. Izhuark was on before deadline and he definitely could have posted, but he didn't (in addition to what I said about him beforehand). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 To clarify, blue is town and green is null (gotta match up my reads with my sig). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I'm already bored of the night phase, let's skip to tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarinets Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 You've got to be kidding me gg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 It wasn't my fault this time! #RefaDidNothingWrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Why am I the only insomniac that's posting? It's a cruel joke that SB picked the three most likely people to flake (sans Rapier, because then his intent would be too obvious) and then put them ALL into an insomniac group. Like...why would you even do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) Phase end is gonna be a little late (considering it's 1 minute away). Just so you all know. Still looking for another sub btw. Edited December 3, 2015 by SB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) Elieson subs in for Izhuark Unfortunately Refa still isn't allowed nightbuddies. Refa, Town Vanilla and part of the Trinity of Wisdom, was killed Night One It is now Day 2. Day 2 ends in 72 hours. With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Edited December 3, 2015 by SB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 MRW N1'd: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I'm surprised that Refa died. But the fact that he got to post a wagon analysis during the night helps me a bit. Refa seemed to suspect Tiny Goddess, Lord Gaius, and Izhuark the most before he exploded. Of those three, I don't remember anything Izuhark did and Elieson just got subbed in. Looking at Lord Gaius's, reads his only strong read seems to be on YOLO and a slight one on BBM. His opinions on everyone else seem to range from either town or noncommittal. Do you have a stance on Mancer, because all you said was that you don't agree with the cases on him but he needs to defend himself. Tiny Goddess' only case and only mentioned scum read was on Clarinets, who is now dead town, and the only other person that they mentioned was Archer of Gold. Do you have anything to say about people like eclipse or BBM or Mancer or me? What is your stance on all the other stuff that has happened in the thread? Also, I don't quite get YOLO at the moment. His Crysta vote felt a bit weak, I don't agree with a vote on her because her post is the type he himself would make as scum. He hasn't really talked about anyone or anything else that had occurred, even though he'd been here before phase end and had to have seen things like eclipse's crypticness and people's suspicion of her over it. There's really no mention of anyone who's not Mancer, Crysta, Clarinets, or me actually. ##Vote: Tiny Goddess I just checked the timestamps and she was here recently enough to see a bunch of stuff going down, and the only thing she did was answer a question before disappearing again. No comments on recent developments. That's pretty scummy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crysta Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 rip refa :( i'm about to head to work in about fifteen minutes but a post should be arriving within the neighborhood of six-seven hours if not sooner for now i'm gonna sheep ##Vote: Tiny Goddess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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