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A Miller doesn't mean there can't be a Rolecop. In MoMM, I was the Town Rolecop, and we had a Miller despite not having an Alliance Cop (we might have had a JoaT with a one-shot Cop, can't remember). However, in that case, when the Miller was scanned, it wasn't just his alignment that was scanned differently, it was also his role (IIRC, he scanned as SK). So Marth, can you confirm whether it is just your alignment that scans differently, or is it also your role?

Are you going to be like Prims in Trainwreck?

so if he never got an avatar, you'd vote for him the whole game? so much scummy behaviour changing your name to fool us into not using meta voteparking ##NightVote: Prims

People who might earn my vote at the beginning of D1: Paperblade for conforming Prims for changing his name j00madbro?

Probably before. No point in writing role PMs if someone checks your setup and tells you it's horribly imbalanced and you have to change everything.

Let's go (in 6-7 hours).

I'm in.

Eclipse vigged SEG, and then Paper killed Prims, who had been targeted by Manix, so Manix died too.

Fun fact: the mafia nightkill got blocked every single night. N1, we targeted Shinori and were foiled by the self-doc, N2 we targeted Kay and were foiled by Eclipse's jail, and N3, we targeted Shinori again, but were redirected by Paper onto his own BPV.

Paper was incredibly OP. BPV SK who could drive and was also lynchproof D1 and immune to all actions N1. Also, sorry Levity, I wasn't actually giving the game up, I was trying to pull a Hail Mary and try to lie to the town and get Shinori lynched for an ITP win, but then Paper gave up. :(

I guess that counts as town endgaming us or something

why you gotta ruin my fun

I'm just trying to have fun, since I'm going to lose no matter what I do. Anyways, going for dinner.

Do they even celebrate Thanksgiving in Australia?

lol thanksgiving was a month ago get with the times

Well, here's the thing. You guys are right. I am a member of the mafia. Here's another thing though. The game is currently at 4/1/1. So as I see it, you guys have two options. Option 1: You guys lynch me, the SK kills someone at night, and then it's 3/1 and you're in MYLO, meaning you take a hit or miss with someone not confirmed town, and if you miss, gg. Option 2: You guys don't lynch me, and in return, I tell you everything that the mafia knows, and all our night actions etc, which will almost certainly allow you to narrow down the SK. You guys lynch him today, and me tomorrow, and you win.

Ughh... I actually targeted Eclipse with my Silencer instead of Shinori, because I thought it was better that the mafia didn't know exactly who I was targeting, and she'd said that she was okay with getting Silenced, so I didn't think it was a big deal. I also thought it was unlikely that she'd be killed over the other PRs since she'd announced that she was going to idle the rest of her abilities. Anyways, I have a long day of classes so I won't be back for a while. If you're going to lynch me over Paper, wait until then.

Alright, in.

Well, it has to something that can self-target and get driven, since he knew he was redirected before you claimed. So either he's telling the truth about that part of his role, meaning he likely is Hated Doctor, or you two are scumbuddies, which I think is unlikely. Also I think you've just been really scummy and everyone is letting you slide for some reason I don't understand.

I'm really not, if you look at it from my position. I know I'm town. If I count Shinori/you/Kay/Eclipse as clear in addition to this, Paper and Bal have to be anti-town, FMPOV. In fact, even if I WAS scum, AND there were no scum other than me left, one of Paper/Bal would STILL have to be the SK, and therefore anti-town, so I don't see how you can say that I'm grasping when I am completely objectively correct about at least one of them. @Paper- Shinori is clear while you are not because your role can be anti-town and his can't. And if he was scum or SK, chances are he wouldn't have an ability with which he could target himself that could be redirected. So for him to be scum, both of you would have to be scum, which I think is unlikely. On the other hand, for you to be scum, nobody else has to be scum.

I didn't say there were exactly 3 anti-town. I said that all the anti-town were between, or among, Bal, Paper, and Eclipse. Note that I even said right after that Eclipse was almost confirmed town, which would mean that are more probably only 2 anti-town. Also, it is forced. Like, I am forced to believe that Shinori, Kay, Helios, and to a lesser extent Eclipse, are town, because of role stuff. And I know I'm town. So it means that I am forced to believe that Paper and Bal are anti-town.

@Eclipse- you're still allowed to vote privately in your role PM, so I don't think that getting silenced would fulfill that desire.

I'm attacking people I think are scum. I haven't attacked Helios (recently, anyways), Shinori, and the bunch of other confirmed townies. FMPOV, I know I'm town, so if I accept that all our currently confirmed townies are in fact town, I have no choice but to believe that the remaining anti-town are between you, Bal, and Eclipse. Also, is it my fault that my role has no use to the town? I'm of half a mind to silence you to prove my role like you wanted and quite literally shut you up. >_>

Plus, guys, remember that bit from Excellen about how he tried to Follow Paper and got no result? I have a feeling that was the mafia trying to get Paper more townie points, since they'd already started doing that with the N1 drive.

Wait, so then Eclipse pretty much is confirmed town. Yeah, Paper for scum, Bal for SK.