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I for one won't be, but at the same time I would expect the same of Ninian supporters because I think we all got to agree that the multipliers are just ridiculous. Voting Gauntlets for determining a character's popularity is a joke now. At least in the 1st one Ephraim had a deserved victory against a character that ranked above him.

I think you have to consider that seeing is believing. Every time Lyon has appeared before Eirika it was as her friend as the Lyon that she knew in better times and he has shown her that he's apparently having a battle within himself to take back control which to Eirika is a sign of he's still in there a like a small light in the darkest abyss. This is why despite Ephraim telling Eirika that it isn't the good hearted Lyon that they knew but someone else entirely she cannot believe it as she has saw there being an apparent struggle where as for Ephraim he saw nothing of the sort otherwise he would be thinking the same just like Eirika, but this is precisely why I think that's a good thing narrative wise which I will touch on later. While Eirika giving the stone to Lyon was certainly out of emotional attachment to see her friend saved to think that it was merely done just out of that isn't entirely accurate because in a flashback Lyon told Ephraim and Eirika that with the Sacred Stone's power he was able to not only save a girl's life from a fire but managed to get rid of the burns that plagued her body so it was done out of some reasoning and not out of just blind hope. Where as Celica's case is just a complete gamble in taking Jedah's word from someone who stands by Duma in opposition to how she stands by Mila, who desires chaos and has actively been trying to do harm to her and her companions and to even his own family in the case of Sonya and her sisters with the lone surviving daughter lashing out at him when they meet he feels nothing but disappointment of what a failure he sees her as and despite all this malice/apathy she's so surprised he lied, it's just ludicrous. This is another point to what @Dark Holy Elf has said with Jedah vs Lyon because the latter's intent had been made clear with his diligent research into the stones power he wants to use his findings for the good of the world.

I am so happy that team Adult Tiki won. All the lolis have fallen. At the very least this should mean that those on team Young Tiki should be joining her older counterpart.

Here, I sent you a invite. My name is Nova and I got Julia +10 as my shared character to help with pesky blue dragons should you use Adult!Tiki for bonus.

Oh and as for Virion and Olivia while a nice support chain Virion's support with Inigo makes him out of character.

@IEatLasers I agree with you on the Chrom and Olivia that it does make sense from a narrative stand point from how the supports work with Inigo (he does look like Chrom too, but his hair is much more kempt), but that's also precisely why I also view Lon'qu and Lissa the same way due to how I must mention that their ending together strengthens the bond between the realms even further and how Lon'qu had saved Lissa's life by shielding her from an arrow mirroring that of how Owain's father did for him except it cost him his life (Lon'qu continuing to not to well against arrows is continued in his conversation with Virion in the summer scramble dlc. Heck Owain looks like Lon'qu too just that they're facing the screen differently and Odin taking up magic because of his mother Lissa can now be seen as he took up the sword because of his father Lon'qu let alone wear the same type of Regna Ferox clothing as him which Owain received his clothing while living over there. Another thing I had brought up in a previous thread: It should also be taken into account that out of all the siblings for Lucina only Inigo and Morgan (they're the only siblings who can use swords) can potentially wield Falchion and if we're to go with Male Robin for a playthrough then that leads only Inigo as the potential sibling to Lucina because seriously Lucina's words don't make a lick of sense at all for the other non wielding swords users in the sibling supports to even bother using Falchion. "If you are, in fact, among Falchion's chosen, that is knowledge we need. There may come a time when it proves necessary for you to take it up." And there's no way I can see the other siblings making a cut that's split perfectly in two as Chrom said without some sort of experience and Xander was highly impressed by Laslow's swordplay when he first met him. Also continuing on with Lucina's support with Inigo the sibling fear of bugs is actually brought along over to Laslow's support with Keaton as a reference and he even screams "Gods, not again!". @Levant Mir Celestia "Yeah, well, here's the problem - the Hidden Truths DLC, which explains how Odin, Laslow, and Selena came to the world of Fates in the first place, makes no mention of the Brand whatsoever. This puts any chance of Olivia being Chrom's canon wife in severe jeopardy, if not outright killing it." That doesn't considering that of course they can't have it be mentioned flat out that Laslow has it otherwise then that's making it so the other potential pairings for Olivia are dismissed. They had to do it in a way that we can hint here and there with bringing the brand up and referencing (like I brought up before) but not dismissing Inigo of having it neither. Here's a support conversation between Xander and Laslow: Xander: "What are you talking about? How would I even see with a mark on my eye?" Laslow: "Haha! A fair point. I never figured that out myself." Which means yes he is talking about Lucina but can even be talking about himself too when he says myself. Also to note if anyone brings up how Laslow says when you give him the Emblem Shield: Laslow: "Wh-What!? You're giving this to me? I won't be able to perform the Awakening!" People forget that Laslow doesn't think he can use Falchion given how the sibling support ends thus he thinks he can't perform the Awakening.

Fates: Azura, Jakob (Female Corrin was picked for the story instead and he's more popular than Felicia also for his conversation with Frederick in Fates dlc so a support between them here would make a lot of sense) and Kaze. Awakening: Tharja, Cherche (we need another flying axe and she is popular from the Awakening poll along with the idea if Minerva is in the game then a support between them would be cool), Virion/Gaius (more so Gaius because he is more popular and has yet to have his spin off appearance where as Tharja was in Mirage Sessions and now this game including to that Cordelia). Shadow Dragon: Minerva (another flying axe who I view to have more priority than Cherche, but I can see them both in the game so that we have an equal number of lance and axe fliers), Camus (we don't have a lance cav yet and the idea of a 1 sword cav from Fates, 1 axe cav from Awakening and now 1 lance cav from SD makes sense), Linde/Merric, but actually I think I'll lean a bit towards Xane due to having a unique moveset they can choose for him.

@Aura Of Twilight @Azz @Nanima I actually heard that apparently "All the retainers besides Flora, Kaze and Silas are here" which sounds a bit sketchy...

@Ertrick36 Oboro looks to be confirmed here. http://wiki2.h1g.jp/femusou/index.php?7章 白夜の王子 出撃固定 - 出撃不可 シオン、リアン 勝利条件 オボロ?とタクミの撃破 敗北条件 - 制限時間 20:00 アンナ情報 撃破数1000達成 Sortie fixed - Sorting not possible Zion, Liang Victory condition Oboro and Takumi's defeat Defeat Condition - Time limit 20: 00 Anna information kill 1000

Pretty cool but I think I would have preferred if they had just Marth, Caeda, Chrom and Lucina for the 1st part and then for the 2nd part have Ryoma take Sakura's place that way the Fates royals with the legendary weapons would have been next to each other then finally have Sakura be with Elise. So I'm a bit disappointed with how it was organized. Oh and even Lissa and Frederick are missing.

@Ertrick36 I'm rooting for Oboro too. I'm happy to see my favorite Nohrian retainer in the game and wish you the same for Oboro as they are well done foils of each other and I'll be surprised if she isn't in the game given she's the most popular Hoshido retainer.

Oh Yes! As Niles would say. I'm incredibly happy to see one of my favorite characters in the whole series.

Exactly, but that's the reason FE Heroes makes it a lot more easier for Smash fans even want to pick up because it's free and rather casual and as I said the Heroes voting was really exploitable out of the mere fact you can vote for the same character everday hence why you see such ludicrous characters like Dorcas and Donnel so high. Here's the Famitsu poll.

The Heroes poll yes was a reason for why she got in the game but even then she has continuously done good in always getting in the top 5 in other various polls where as Roy is more of a oddity when he's not even making top 10 in other polls outside his game.

Yeah I can agree that using the Heroes poll is good indicator but I wouldn't consider it a actual poll result for making decisions due to the fact during the voting you could vote for a character continuously hence a Smash Roy fan could just voted for him over and over again and just out of the mere fact it's a mobile game thus more accessible to those that aren't even just FE fans. I mean Roy wasn't even in the top 10 for Famitsu's poll. Keep in mind even Ephraim defeated Chrom yet it was so close and that was before the multiplier became ridiculous.

Cordelia is up ahead by 1 slot of Azura with them being 7 and 8 respectively.

Hmm... I actually want to see a main lord that has a mixture of sorts backstory to that of Joshua and Zephiel. Like say that the main lord has a abusive father (Zephiel's dad or can just be like how Marth's dad was in the ova towards him when he was young), but a loving mother (Joshua's mom) and the father doesn't see them ever being able to ascend the throne because of how weak they they are in being such a disgrace. The main lord leaves no longer being able to take the abuse and decides they want to see the world and come out of it strong on their own and prove to their father that they were wrong about them (so essentially as Joshua thinks that he was rebelling against his mother which wasn't really the case I actually want to see it it done for this lord towards their father) and if say the main lord has a younger sibling they could have it against their sibling for leaving and not realizing the kind of actions their selfish choice had done to the people around them (especially if the mother dies of a broken heart) and even possibly their own country turning to turmoil.

I hate to say it but probably Ephraim even though it's still maybe possible seeing as he defeated Chrom in the Heroes Voting Gauntlet before the multiplier became ridiculous and taking into consideration we haven't got a lance infantry yet which would have to be him unless Azura gets confirmed. What's really making me doubt it is just for the simple fact Sacred Stones is seen as the black sheep of the gba games sadly enough.

Ah, I see thank you for pointing out. He's so forgettable. Edit: Oh and even Castor too is available in the same chapter as a enemy unit that can be recruited.

I agree with @Motendra I always figured the same, especially given Navarre is the character if last I checked (my memory of Shadow Dragon is bad) was the first enemy character that could be recruited in the series.

Or you know complain about there being another sword character.

Well there's actually something of a conversation about that, but instead it's when they're enemies and here's the two battle conversations. Minvera I am Minerva of Macedon. Face me at your peril. Cherche But...my wyvern is Minerva! It will be a shame to batter her namesake. Cherche Minerva of Macedon, was it? Here is a fateful battle if ever I have fought one—isn't that right, Minerva? Minerva Why do you look at your wyvern when you address me? Is this some kind of insult?! However yeah that would be cool.

My summoner support character is Ephraim. Ally supports are: Niles and Soren - Life sucks, we're assholes who tell is like it is. We're also gay for the main character in our respective games. Note: Not to mention Niles would have a idea that Soren had a sh** life) Minerva and Olwen: Having to battle our own brothers to the death! Ephraim and Chrom: We had the best Heroes Gauntlet battle for the ages and thus out of it the best bromance in Heroes. Eirika and Nino: We're BFFs and support one another greatly on the battlefield. We can both be rather naive and also had to battle close companions. *looks at Lyon and Lloyd* Sharena and Katrina: Prologue 7 story reasons.

Yes, that it is. I just need 2 more Ephraim (waiting for him to be in a banner again) and then I'll have my +10 team. Ephraim, Julia, Ike and Brave Lyn all filling a color.

Yeah I'm surprised people don't know that. Her popularity makes sense what with her backstory and her supports with Duessel and Franz.