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I said this in the DVC, but also saying it here: The play you needed to make was have Fable CC Rad and have Xnad NOT slank and stay active, calm, and remain town read. Then you lynch RAD. Fable would be a sure lynch the next phase, but Xnad would still have good town equity, and Mack most likely blocks Zeo, Junk, or even known scum Fable before his game long town read Xnad. The kill succeeds, and and both PRS are gone, going into day with 2v2, and Mafia wins at parity. CCing was the best play IMO.

I know it's tilting, but your pride shouldn't get in the way, because me being able to town read you without effort is not a problem if I am right. I don't think you need to worry about it. Find out how to read me the same way and we have no reason to fight about it.

I won't deny what you did was NAI, and I'll be waiting for our second town game and scum game before I'm certain, but I think I can read your intentions based on a handful of posts on D1, no matter what you are actually doing. It's about vibes. I'll change my mind when I'm wrong.

Most Likely to Die N2, reporting in.

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Fable/Mack/Zeo makes a lot of sense and I haven't seen any of those three shade or case each other. Keep this team in mind as a possibility. Every post by Mack that references Zeo is indirect, except for a question that he never drew a conclusion from: Fable's about/with Zeo. My bias is showing, but I feel like this interaction is very easy for scum/scum, and could easily be buddying. I've tried interacting with mack and fenrir off memory but it never went anywhere.

I'm feeling less amazing about Mack here, and see no reason to suspect RAD. What about RAD strikes you as scummy/a better fit than Mack?

@Mackc2 What specifically makes you think Bart will flip scum? Which posts?

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Do you think Zeo is scummy based on his postings?

Evan would never passively town read his scum partner when they were about be lynched like this, and not fight harder for it. If Evan is Mafia his only motivation for doing that would be distancing from a mislynch he thinks is going to happen.

Which one?

I don't disagree with your case, in fact, I think it is correct, and I still think he is scum, but I'm done pushing that train and arguing with him. I will vote there if others will vote there, and I have made my case known.

Eh, I thought it was really telling at the time, and I'm now coming back around. You should know that I latch onto things I consider hard tells because I did it to Omega and I am trying to fix that, but I ran this by my mentor, and the scum game being more casual did not help change my case. I would consider the tone differences the most damning thing, and if they are not damning, then nothing is that bad, putting him back in null territory. But like I said I'm leaning town after how well he took my case, I don't think he reacted badly if he is town and this just his way of playing. Company is calling me so I won't be around until late tonight, but I will keep reading in my spare time while I wait for Zeo's reaction.

Yeah man, you're beginning to sound like Fable: I am feeling a lot better about Evan and Bart both after interacting. Evan more so. I think he genuinely annoyed and busy, and he is responding perfectly as he would if he were town in this scenario. Back to Zeo ##Vote: @Zeonth

Like... If this is the best you can do, it's simply not good enough to win the game, unfortunately. At some point -- IMO, D2 is the standard -- you have to have read every player and be up to date on all of them so that your reads aren't happening in a vacuum. The longer you wait the worse the catchup is, and then you're just a drag on the team. How do you plan to make up for that disadvantage?

No... Solving is trying to put together the entire game state. You're not actively trying to convince others. You're distancing yourself from the lynch the same way you did with Satsuma. If you're sure he's town, then you need to do a better job of steering the town to the right people.

I'm really liking how you're responding to my case, and I don't think you make sense with my other scum reads, so you have moved down. But, lines like this "It's like... his posts are bad, but they're better then last game, so I'm not really scumreading him for it?" ping me really bad, and make me doubt my never w/w statement. You are the most likely lynch today. Evan has to be aware of that. What do you think of Evan's passive town read on you in light of how people have you as their top read?

You've been floating there for a little while, but yeah, these questions aren't going anywhere. The right question is "How are you solving?"

Evan and Bart are never w/w I believe lynching Evan clears the PoE significantly, and I don't think what he is doing is solving, including how he replied to that ISO read Evan > Fable / Bart > Zeonth And we have a three way tie, which should be fun, who is switching?

##Vote: @EvanManManMan

... Fair.

He was pointing that all of your lynch candidates were also all of the people on the wagon. Since its unlikely all 3 were on the wagon, you should have at least one suspect who's not.