Makaze

You will have to specify which account is RAD there. I don't see any posts by him on either site.

Before I respond, I'd like to hear you present some deeper opinions on the current thread PoE of: Fable Evan Bartozio Mack In fact, a whole reads list, with summaries please. I want an idea of where you stand before I question where I stand based on meta.

Scratch that, Bart had one at EOD before his Satsuma vote. Update it please, sorry for being rude.

@Bartozio Should post one as well. There's no excuse for not having one after a lynch.

Still not seeing any reason to doubt my Fenrir read other than his actions not really having any impact. Which, I would like to see @Fenrir post a reads list with lynch priority. Multiple things are bothering me about Bart on reread, but I'll save that for after he posts.

Now that I read it again, he did foreshadow that he would re-evaluate. gdi I can see that world now, this could be a pocket attempt, and it's possible Bart is not Mafia. (As in his flip isn't clearing.) My PoE is a lot more fluid with that. I'll be ISOing Fenrir and Bart while I wait for Evan to show up.

Mack's first post: The callout: His next post after the callout: His response to my question about the change:

I'll be more explicit. Who are you going to case in this phase? Who are you going to ISO? Are you going to post your thoughts about the ISO, with examples?

They are not distinct. The first is the most likely scum team if Fable is Mafia. If Fable is not Mafia, then the PoE is between those people, but the order is a lot harder to pin down. Mack and Bart being a team is the only world where I see Mack as scum, so it's pretty much the second one, yeah. My logic on the Mack swap is that Mack says Bart is tonally off in one post. No one questions him about this, and in his next post he says Nadroj and Bart is town vs town, out of nowhere. When I asked about it, he said he changed his mind after reading the exchange. This is not a smart move for Mafia in itself, and Mack has been very careful about throwing reads, so I do not see how he profits from this if Bart is town and Mack is mafia. So either Mack is town and Bart is Mafia, Mack is mafia and Bart is Mafia (giving him a reason to switch so casually), or Mack is town and Bart is town, and those are the options. Do you interpret it differently, or what do you see happening if he is Mafia and Bart is town?

@Fable Do you have any plans to case anyone, even as a kind of interaction?

Actually, I don't think Evan is as clear of being in a team with you as I did at EoD. He was firing all over the place and it had no chance to changing the lynch, so I'm not going to give him town cred for it. Anyone can BS in the last hour no matter what they say. And hard bussing is also a thing if he comes out and cases you again, it's just a matter of whether I believe he is genuine.

Actually the way you've been disagreeing with him is more indicative lol Scum distancing usually doesn't read to me as this confrontational, it reads like play acting, with no compromise on either side, just "I see, I see" and then it gets dropped.

My PoE is largely in agreement with Fable's, with one major exception (besides him). Fable Bartozio Mack Junk Evan Fenrir First three is the most likely team if Fable is Mafia, the others become more likely if Fable is town (and I would be back at square one within PoE instead of any sure locks). This team is also the only world where scum!Mack does the unprompted switch between Bart as scummy and Bart as town between posts. So I think if Bart flips town, Mack is cleared from unnecessary flipflop townclearing that goes against his cautious playstyle. Athena would be added if Fable flips town, but is being left out because I do not believe their team is possible with the way athena has been not just questioning but disagreeing with him.

@Fable

The assumption stems from "how well I do today". You were setting yourself up for doing badly, and gave yourself an out to blame everyone else. Assuming you do badly, it will be your fault. Not going to entertain this further, just going to stick to game related content. Stop insulting people and play the game.

Who would you like to lynch today, if not me? Do you plans to case anyone?

Yeah no. You said people need to "get good". That's a direct demand to improve skill, with a tacked on "you're not good right now". One of them is about your confidence in yourself (mine). One of them is about your level of confidence in others' skill (yours). If you lack confidence in yourself, or even if you do, that still doesn't make it right to take it out by blaming everyone else for your reads being wrong. Others shouldn't have to come to you to interact with you. If you want to find the Mafia, you need to interact with them. You ask them questions. You poke them out of lurking. You do shit other than sit there and whine that people are leaving you alone. You play the game, like everyone else is doing. Even Evan has contributed more than you now.

Don't insult fellow players whatever your alignment. How well you do this phase depends on your ability to read into action as well as inaction. Only you can determine how good your reads are. What are they, after this flip?

For the benefit of people who have more to say than LMAO: Evan hardcased Rapier towards the EoD and I was beginning to doubt my town read because of it. How he processes being wrong in light of mod confirmed alignment is much better than seeing him do lightning catchup pot shots in the final minutes of the phase.

I am surprised I survived. I would like to hear from @EvanManManMan about how he thinks he went wrong.

Day 1: Automated Votals from #101 to #131 Makaze (1): Magnificence Incarnate Not voting (1): Makaze Errors (3): Makaze, Makaze, Makaze Phase ends in 109h40m. Hammer at 10. Vote history:

Thw answer is yes the Mack change was unpromted and theffroe not faked

Pay attention in case I die

Evan is not scum based on this content imo.

Evan and fable not w/w at least