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    Training Mafia 3.0: Advanced - GAMEOVER

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    21 minutes ago, Bartozio said:

     

    I don't think this is entirely fair, because you came in halfway through the game, so you had a bigger picture then just his early game. If Fable is the type of player who needs a while to get going (which he clearly was in that game), that kind of thing really matters.

    Sorry, but I'm not sheeping you on just a gutread. I'm willing to consolidate onto Fable if he keeps this unproductiveness up though.

    I suppose you could be right if I had initial pings early in his ISO and then changed my mind that game, but I didn't get any tonally off pings from him at all.

    Context and better tonal posts are not going to change whether the tone is genuine in the past or not.

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    6 hours ago, athena_57 said:

    I think it IS pretty important why you chose the joke post. Even if the difference between a complete joke and a generic question is small in your eyes, the way you chose to format your case on me currently is completely ignoring game-relevant stuff I've posted and misrepping my RVS jokes as faked scumhunting.

    If you look at the timeframes between Mackc's post and mine, there's less than 5 minutes. If he was going to leave immediately, why bother to make the post? I felt it wouldn't go anywhere, and that he didn't want to discuss it. Therefore, the conclusion I arrived at was that the post was made for the sake of making a post.

    Seriously? Then how do you think the game should've started?

    Do you then not think my posts were a joke? Do you think I was honestly reading into shitposting mentors? I think "It's a joke" pretty much sums up what was going on there.

    The rationale was pressure. I didn't have a scumread on the guy, but felt two votes on one wagon were adding more pressure than two seperate votes.

    +1

    Yup, the reasoning was wrong. Also, you're right in that I was ending the conversation there. You were taking my jokes seriously and I decided I got out of the conversation what I wanted (a mild townread), so I ended the conversation before your annoyance turned into anger.

    My vote on you was to see how you'd react under pressure. Speaking of which, whilst I can see your point on Bart and think the OMGUS-y vote is likely to come from town, I think the excessive vocabulary in the bolded sentence is a bit weird?

    The same point could've easily been made without using terms like "huge leaps of logic" and I'm wondering whether this is just the way you talk or scum inflating the situation.

    I like your other posts and agree with them for the most part.

    ##Unvote

    Could you expand on this? I'm trying to sort out the people who've voted me. I think Rapier's vote on me was good, his point was correct (there was no change of opinion on my end) and I think his vote came from a good place in that it was meant to evoke reactions. Fenrir's is more iffy, especially because I dislike him using my RVS as evidence, and also ignoring my vote when giving his pocket theory. 

    This leaves Junk. I originally wanted to take a look at the most sheepish vote on me, but I think I sort of liked their stuff so far. If you could explain why he's town to you, that'd be great.

    On this note, I'll be rereading Junk, but for now, this was the most iffy vote on me and I'd be surprised if zero scummembers joined in on this.

    ##Vote @Fenrir Aesir

    Bruh, please. When I started questioning him, literally everyone was mildly inactive. In fact, I chose to question someone who was online at the time so I could interact. Isn't this basically the exact opposite from what you're describing here? Also, in that game me hopping back on wasn't a sheep vote.

    Let's just say I have seen Junk as scum and their posting here seems a bit more like they are actually working through posts and digesting them.

    My Fable read is not on him being uncooperative.

    I was in the last game with him, and I had a very strong town read of him on tone alone after ISOing him from the start of the game. I had no logical reasons for my town read, and others had logical reasons for their scum reads -- but I persisted, even betting I would reveal my name name if I was wrong. I was apparently the only one who saw he was town, and he ragequit by self-hammering.

    This is a very different Fable. The vibes I am getting are incredibly different and they are not good.

    What he is literally doing may not be indicative, but the way he is doing it, and his "this thread makes my head hurt" comments are not in his town character.

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    Just now, Fable said:

    Where's the thunderdome? 

    I'm here meming and you're doing.....something.....I don't actually know what.

    People will perceive it as such as consider both of our posts NAI when concerned with each other.

    I don't want that to happen.

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    Just now, Fable said:

    Me? No, I don't care about this game yet. 

    But most people lose their minds when they hear that unlike most people I don't jump at the first post I see and try to divine some great meaning from it.. 

    I'm use to it though, not the first time and I'm sure won't be the last. 

    I think we should lynch him. I am not kidding.

    Hoping people don't just ignore our exchange as a meaningless thunderdome.

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    2 minutes ago, RADicate said:

    Apologies if i was unclear in my post earlier (the one where i voted you initially). I'll lay it out for you what i was trying to say. At least in part your read on Athena was based on the fact that you believe they may have attempted to pocket Jordan. Unfortunately that line of thinking doesnt make sense if Athena flips their read on jordan and votes them a couple posts later. I dont get how that line of thinking still applied after Athena voted jordan post:initial TR. Thus your initial arguement fmpov was flawed as you ignored a vital piece of evidence. That wasnt me saying "Athena is town for voting xnad" but me saying "There was a hole in one of your initial arguements that you seemingly willfully overlooked". Granted given your confused reaction and me having to spell this out; im now more inclined to say that you genuinely didnt put 2 and 2 together there as opposed to my initial outlook on the situation. 

    On a related not @Mackc2 , considering the fact that you agreed with my initial anaylsis and sheeped my reasoning onto fenrir; do his previous two most recent posts change your prospective on the situation at all? If so how?

    RAD is town.

    For @Fenrir Aesir in case it's STILL not clear: He's saying it makes no sense for athena to be trying to pocket someone by voting for them. Whether the vote is town clearing or not isn't the issue: Your STATED REASON for the scum read was a contradiction of the facts.

    In other words, even if he believes you made a mistake, he'd like to know what your actual reasons are, in light of that fact.

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    Just now, Fenrir Aesir said:

    Shortly put, I don't find Athena's vote on Xnad to be a towntell and as a result I'm confused with how Rad thinks I ignored said vote in order to push Athena.

    Unrelated: For what it's worth, Fenrir is striking me as town leaning for how consistent and progressive their content is. They aren't making stuff up and actually are reading athena from a different perspective.

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    3 minutes ago, Mackc2 said:

    I think I am following what you are asking, basically what do I hope to get from my line of questioning? I was hoping to put Evanmanman on the spot to see if he had a real reason for townreading Athena and of course it is related to the game, I don't see how it couldn't be.

    You didn't ask him why he was town reading athena.

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    4 minutes ago, Mackc2 said:

    I found Evan has not said anything that properly related to the game yet and I want to hear more from them, however as people told me last time I tried this a statement is not the best way to start a conversation, thus I am proposing a question, I also want to hear something from fable but I don't know what question I could ask.

    More on this. Are the answers to your questions related to the game?

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    2 minutes ago, Mackc2 said:

    I found Evan has not said anything that properly related to the game yet and I want to hear more from them, however as people told me last time I tried this a statement is not the best way to start a conversation, thus I am proposing a question, I also want to hear something from fable but I don't know what question I could ask.

    You didn't answer my first question.

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    18 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said:

    Care to explain why you're tunneling Evan so hard that Mack can get a townread just by asking one question?

    No.

    17 minutes ago, Mackc2 said:

    I think he's scum reading me not town reading, Makaze are you going to explain any of your reasoning?

    You are correct.

    35 minutes ago, Mackc2 said:

    @EvanManManMan Why is Athena your only town read? Also is there a reason you post multiple single sentence posts in a row instead of putting it all in one post?

    What is the most useful conclusion you hope to draw from asking these questions? Are you applying pressure to Evan?

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