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Chrom is downright needed to beat the first chapters. Movement doesn't matter as much because both cant handle an EP in Lunatic well at all. But at least Chrom has the whole "being the best pairup in the earlygame" going for him. Sully is almost OHKO'd on join, doesnt double for a looooong time and her going wyvern is a joke. It works in HM, but this is different. Due to how FE13 is, eventually Sully would be a good unit, but her start is atrocious enough in Lunatic to make her worthy of C tier.

Sully>Chrom in Lunatic is a joke right Red Fox? Please, you're joking right?

No, Im not kicking Jedi out. Theres enough room for you Baldrick. There were 7 items in your list. Here they are in random order: Baldrick: MJ: Quint: Peekayell: Jedi: BEAR: CR:

Drafting: 1. This draft is for 7 players. 2. Ike, Micaiah, Sothe, Geoffrey, the Herons, the Black Knight, and Lehran are free for all to use. 3. The drafting order is reversed for the last round of picks. 4. Haar is banned from drafting. 5. The game will be played on Normal Mode. Rules: 1. Undrafted units may recruit characters, Rescue and Shove/Smite undrafted characters and NPCs, trade, Escape/Arrive, and transfer items/skills between teams. 2. Undrafted units may not do anything not listed above, including but not limited to meatshielding, building Supports, opening Doors and Chests, finding hidden items, and giving Blood Tide/Night Tide/White Pool bonuses. 3. Allied and Other units may do as they please without penalty. 4. Defend chapters count the last played Player Phase for turns if the timer is waited out. Penalties: 1. Undrafted units have a 4 turn penalty, per unit per chapter (1-6 counts as 2 chapters, and 4-E counts as 5 chapters). Exceptions: 1. One of Edward or Nolan is free for each of 1-P, 1-1 and 1-2. 2. Volug is free for 1-5. 3. Elincia, Marcia and Nealuchi are free for 2-P 4. Nephenee and Brom are free for 2-1. 5. One undrafted, non-Lucia unit is free for 2-2. 6. One undrafted, 7 move unit is free for 3-1. 7. One undrafted, 6 move unit is free for 3-3. 8. 2-1 and 3-P are free up to 10 turns. Teams: Baldrick: Jill, Tanith, Nephenee, Tibarn, Naesala, Tormod, Lethe, Volke, Oliver MJThomnumbers: Oscar, Aran, Laura, Mordecai, Kieran, Tauroneo, Skrimir, Bastian, Gareth Quintessence: Titania, Marcia, Gatrie, Calill, Leonardo, Muarim, Lucia, Mist, Stefan Peekayell: Edward, Soren, Nealuchi, Rhys, Makalov, Sanaki, Vika, Lyre, Kurthnaga CRsux: Nolan, Elincia, Janaff, Heather, Shinon, Astrid, Kyza, Nasir, Ena Bearclawrandomnumbers: Ilyana, Mia, Zihark, Ulki, Ranulf, Fiona, Caineghis, Giffca, Renning Jedi: Volug, Boyd, Sigrun, Brom, Nailah, Rolf, Danved, Pelleas, Meg [spoiler=Units Remaining]

And If I want to take that into account when rating a unit, what's to stop me? Heck, maybe I didn't even substract or add points due to it, there's no way to know for certain. Does my rating become any less valid because of something I said? ;/

@ Sho- Pair up bonuses matter to me. And that's enough. Besides, pair up bonuses is an integral part of a unit's use, ignoring that would be dumb.

LONG LIVE LTC

So far, you could've 1 turned Oleg, 2 turned Isadora's map and 3 turn that one. Screw Genesis, turns ftw.

Gaius. Joins in chapter 6. His bases are pretty bad except for spd. He's close to getting Killing Edges, has Locktouch and mov+1 in a few levels though. His spd and move pair up helps a lot of people, especially Cherche, whom I think is one of the best pairups in the game. Assasin Gaius gives so much str and spd, he makes the offense of anyone ridiculous. Trickster is a terrible class for him, but it is an alternative if you want to keep the move bonus. His defenses are terrible though, so he's not really up to frontlining. Pairup can solve it for awhile, but I find Gaius just doesn't keep growing well in def. His offense is pretty great, but overall, I'd say he's better off as a dual partner for someone better. His utility for this is not to be underestimated though ;/. 5/10 +1 bias because motherflipping Gaius 6/10

Seeing as how I'm good with a bow irl (how ironic) I'd be an archer. I'm known by a lot of people for playing campy and "gay" in most fighting game ;/ also, so it fits me.

No, about Donnel solo of Lunatic. That's bull.

I don't believe you either. Good for me too, huh?

Wyvern sully in chapter 5...excuse me? But arent renown second seals banned?

Changed my mind after starting to do a draft where I have her. She's saved turns due to my team thanks to early rescue ;/ and she's leveling surprisingly well. I'm going to give her 5/10.

Premonition 2/2 Why Prologue 3/5 Fred goes up. Chapter 1 3/8 Robin and Fred go down. Chapter 2 3/11 Stahl+Fred go up, Stahl gets some kills on the way but Fred switches in for boss. Robin and Chrom handled some enemies in the south. Chapter 3 4/15 Get Door Key and go up. Chapter 4 2/17 Robin had to do everything because for once, she's leveled up well in def. Needed a thunder forge though ;/ Paralogue 1 Free Get Donnel Train butches. Chapter 5 4/21 Chrom takes the south with Killer Edge. Stahl helps in the Ricken Maribelle area (wow he's tinked) with Killer Lance. Ricken and Maribelle take down 3 enemies total. Fred and Robin handle boss area and the reinforcements. Paralogue 2 6/27 Stahl gets the Village. Fred Chrom gets the boss area. Ricken Maribelle and Robin take the starting area. Ricken got 2 levels. Xenologue 1 4/31 Ricken!Maribelle rescues Chrom!Fred forward so he can reach Celica faster. Afterward, Ricken and Stahl handled Caeda Elincia and one of the mages. Fred silver lance'd Nanna on the way to Celica. Robin was useless but she got the village for a skl tonic lulz. Chapter 6 3/34 Panne Donnel Ricken and Maribelle help "Marth" out. Fred and Stahl get the boss. Chrom and Robin take the Gaius side. Chapter 7 2/36 Maribelle rescues Chrom!Fred and he lures all the wyverns so the boss moves then he Killer Edges the boss and Luna and also crits o_O so overkill. Fred OP. Ricken Elwind forged some wyvern bastards and protected Maribelle along with Panne Stahl and Robin. Champions of Yore 2 2/38 Panne Stahl with tonics takes the right side with Celica and Lyn help. Panne gets to Level 10. Chrom!Fred took the left and Marth himself, whom Ricken KO'd with elwind in PP 2. Celice survived Fred's wrath somehow. Maribelle visited a village and got a Recover. Chapter 8 4/42 Panne goes down and destroys stuff. Switches to Fred for the 1-2 range though. Then later kills boss. Ricken is a bro and ferried Avatar to the Master Seal village getting 2 levels on the way. Nowi died to a crit but Gregor held on his own against 2 enemies. Got the rescue village with Maribelle and Chrom. Paralogue 3 4/46 Maribelle goes down and a bit to the right and rescues Panne and Frederick down so they can kill 2 enemies at the bottom of the map, then they go and kill boss area. Gregor!Ricken took the enemies by the start. Stahl too. Chrom and Robin just talked to NPCs and killed the left side. (had them split because Rapier OP, Chrom killed pegs) Chapter 9 3/49 I'm sure I could've 2 turned but I just rolled with the first try. Rescue Ricken goes down with Gregor and rescues Wyvern Panne down, who switches to them in the desert then kills the boss. Ricken rescues again for Chrom Robin so they can talk to Tharja and then Ricken helped Libra out. Chapter 10 2/51 Stahl drops someone. Robin drops chrom. Maribelle and ricken go left and rescue wyvern panne (switched to Ricken for range) and wyvern panne kills Mustafa. Tharja gets some kills with noseferatu. Got the Master Seal. Paralogue 4 3/54 Ricken rescues wyvern Panne up and she goes to the boss area and hand axes shit. Ricken kills the thief. Tharja tanks Nowai's lunch. Stahl is a bro, received the Energy Drop and killed some other dudes. Champions of Yore 3 2/56 Gregor!Ricken with def tonic takes the right side, KO'ing most of everything. Tharja and Stahl helped him with cleanup duty. Griffon Panne @ Fred KO'd the entire left side, prioritizing Celica in Player Phase 1 because of her stupid gale (which had like 37 hit 19 dmg x2 out of 47 hp) Panne is ridiculous. Chapter 11 2/58 Ricken rescues Panne down and she ORKOs everything including Gangrel in EP. Then killed the thief in PP 2. Ricken then took the hero and that area. Tharja took 2 mages down from the right side. Chapter 12 2/60 Tharja + Ricken take the left side. Stahl takes 2 armors on the right. Chrom takes 2 armors in the center. Panne takes down everything in the boat ;/. Chapter 13 1/61 Feed everyone a kill then kill boss with Panne.

Staves suck in Hard Mode except for Rescue. She joins along with Ricken in Chapter 5 and instantly can't do combat. It hurts her exp. At least she can use Mend, which only requires 4 uses to get a level. Her support bonuses are pretty awesome. Providing mag spd and res to her partner. A promotion to valkyrie, 10 spd and A support with someone will give them 5 spd, for example. It's too bad healers suck at pairing up due to no dual strikes ;/. If you can train her to Valkyrie though, she makes a nice pairup bot. She has the pegasus knight class tree, but her 4 str or so is not exactly easy to train. Dark Flier is very unlikely (like 0.0000000% chance) in efficiency ;/. 3.5/10 worse than most of the cast imo except for Lissa Virion and Donnel.

The DLC Draft # 40480 Dinfinitysignfina in 115 turns, Racer, Randa, *Peekayell

Woo. Jedi let me do whatever I please with the Robe. I will remember this act of kindness! [spoiler=Chapter 7] Gotta undo what Terrador did to her! Wow, Wolf is actually pretty bro. Must be his hair. Castor's chip OP NO You youngsters with your good growths! Back in my day, this was a good level! Bows more like brows! Yeah, I've met her, she had really big assets and was living alone atop a huge tree. She was always sleeping. She dies in the bad footor! Those bases remind me of Donnel, but Donnel isn't as epic as a muthafucking Dragon. Bantu for unique utility tier NO. I WANTED TO EXCALIBUR HER RAGE. I WILL NOW VENT MY FRUSTRATION WITH YOU, if you don't mind! Micaiah, is that you? COULD BE WORSE! Like this one all those turns ago: RAGE You can batter the Old Pope but not beat him! BEGONE FOUL WITCH See? Even she admits she's the weak flier! Wow, poor you. What happened to your stomach? Did that jerk Michalis stab it out? BLOOD AND THUNDER This isnt' canon. Nobody survives a round from Agod There. Don't mess with the THWOMP. P-OP-e NO. NOT SHIN DELUXE! My pran can't fail, I will feed the boss to Wolf, who does 1 damage with the axe! NO STILL WORTH IT I HAD TO Marth did nothing the whole chapter ;/

About time Erk got his first def proc lol

Ricken. Gets much more flack than he's supposed to be. I mean, some people consider him worse than Virion and Donnel o_O Anyways, he joins in Chapter 5 along with Maribelle. The enemies in that map are all 2HKO'd by Elwind and he almost one shots wyverns. He's doubled and almost ORKO'd by myrmidons. Maribelle provides spd mag and res to him which is handy. He comes early enough, with a paralogue right next to his join to be trainable. He's a nice unit in the desert, if trained, thanks to ignoring desert penalty and he grows surprisingly bulky. His spd needs tonics and supports to work well, but it's generally worth it because he can become a really really bulky 8 move unit that ORKOs thanks to hitting res or a weirdly bulky sage that can spam rescue to get Tomefaire and have massive rescue range. Miriel outclassing him on join is a myth in efficiency too, as you'd have to slow down to a crawl to feed her player phase kills due to her spectacular defenses hampering her enemy phase exp. 5/10 no bias either way because I'm very neutral towards Ricken, I just think he's underrated.

Oops. I picked and edited the OP first but had to leave so I didnt say it ;/

Terrible unit. Gets ORKO'd in his join chapter and requires pair ups to get his kills to get recruited. Even with pair ups, he sometimes has a chance to miss which makes his recruitment annoying when the RNG wants to say NO. It doesn't get better anytime soon either, as he's still doing terrible even with a level up. You have to constantly keep babying him until he gets Level 10 (if ever) so he can reclass to Mercenary. By the time he reclasses to mercenary or fighter, he will be stuck at E swords/E Axes and performing worse than others anyway. Foot units also get worse in mid-to-late game so Donnel is even royally screwed when trained. He has good growths, but good growths does not a good unit make. I wouldn't ever pair him up with anyone to get a better kid either in efficiency. As his terrible dual strikes and terrible pairup boosts hinders the lead unit. Basically, he's useless. 0/10 If I could I would -1 bias him to -1/10

Tharja and...gods save me...DONNEL

Except his defense is not poor and his spd is fixable. He's definetely not worse than Donnel or Virion or Lissa/Maribelle. Have you even tried using him seriously? I have, I've used him, Virion and the others i mentioned. And of all of those, Ricken is the easiest to train for sure. Virion is thouroughly shit, almost Donnel-like. Also, Miriel has worse durability and is a pain to train. If durability is oh-so-important (you all love to hype nowi for her durability) then what is MIRIEL doing so high up?