Thor Odinson Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 On a horse. Availability isn't as nice as Franz (Seth is out of this equation because he's motherfucking Seth) but not many people has availability like Franz. A little more than half the game is still nice. Base level could be better, but hey, horse so he won't have too much trouble catching up on those Sethless runs. Has Knight Crest competition, but isn't all that bad when in play. Str is nice and while speed is iffy, at least this is FE8 so it's not that big of a issue. I mean the enemies here are less than HHM quality and you need what, 16 AS to double all non-boss, non-Swordie enemies around lategame in HHM? He can tank anyway so that's a nice bonus. 7/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 7/10 pretty good has a horse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 He has a horse so there's no reason to hate him. 7/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Laufeyson Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Kyle is this guy with green hair and is all srs business. Pros: Dat defense. Good strength. Horsie. Can use the entire weapon triangle if one so wishes. Has some cool supports. Cons: Speed can get srsly screwed. Dat res. Kyle can (and usually does) have doubling issues. This tends to pick up though and he tanks. His non-existent res can really bite him in the ass though. 7/10. Hes pretty solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciarre Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) 7/10 for reasons already stated, with a bias point. Kyle<3 Scratch that no bias point for you. Edited February 16, 2012 by CR-S01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Banzai Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Yeah man, you need team diversity. Let's use scrubs like Gilliam and Lute instead of Forde. Why would you use two of the most broken class when you can have only one broken and one mediocre class? Probably because both Forde and Kyle are statistically awful? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Probably because both Forde and Kyle are statistically awful? They aren't so awful that they simply fail for their entire existence. They get by, quickly, in a game where getting by is just fine. Gilliam is too slow (mov wise). Lute is too frail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeCrush980 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Cavalier with decent stats. 7/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epic Fail Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Cavalier with decent stats. 7/10 That's deep, bro. He's stronger than Forde (who's not that weak himself), but he's slower and despite his decent def base, his growth is pretty sad in that department (also has to compete with Franz and Forde for a KK, who are both superior). I guess a 7/10 is fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Probably because both Forde and Kyle are statistically awful? Not really. pretty good unit 7.5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiff Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Is strong and durable, has a horse and partial WTC, good Con, and usually enough speed to get by (he's only losing to Forde by 1 base and 5% growth in that regard). 8/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excellen Browning Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Probably because both Forde and Kyle are statistically awful? Not really. They're actually pretty good. But hey, it's not like you've displayed any actual knowledge of this game so far. I'm not surprised you said it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Yeah man, you need team diversity. Let's use scrubs like Gilliam and Lute instead of Forde. Why would you use two of the most broken class when you can have only one broken and one mediocre class? Knight Crest competition is actually a very good reason to diversify your team. Anyway, Kyle. Virtually identical to Forde, except in the areas they're not. Forde has the unfortunate luck of winning all the stats that don't matter, and speed. The last is NOT a significant win (1 + 5%) less than or equal to the three stats Kyle wins, all of which matter. (Incidentally, Forde's speed advantage disappeared when they try to wield heavier weapons.) It's not significant enough to give him a major advantage, until you factor in Franz. Forde's average stats make him inferior to a trained Franz forever, but Kyle wins defense and surpasses Franz in strength. So Kyle has a clear win over Forde. It's not the strongest argument, but it's better than "Forde will be str-blessed" and "Forde has first dibs on Silver weapons". 7/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xblade Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 pretty moderate unit. i prefer forde or franz or amelia. still some of his stats are ok so 5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 6/10 I like the other 2 better(not including Seth obviously) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) and his garbage caps mean he's next to useless in CC. What the fuck? Are we playing the same CC here? What about GK's monstrous 29 DEF is garbage? 24 SPD is certainly on the lower end, but how much SPD do you need again? EDIT: Anyway, 8/10 from me and tallying now. Edited February 16, 2012 by Integrity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Probably because both Forde and Kyle are statistically awful? What part of them is statistically awful? They're not as good as Franz but they have an easier time leveling, and again even if they could only 2RKO they would still be better than 90% of your options (and not just cause most of those also can't ORKO reliably). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Eh....If 5/10 means middle of the line in terms of FE8 units, I can see Forde being quite close with his...lameness. Man, if he can't contribute much during drafts where I have a limited team and am expected to make full of use of him, how much can he really contribute in a playthrough with Seth or even a playthrough with Franz? I've always found Kyle to be more useful, although I'm sure if you looked at averages and stuff, they'd be pretty close together. Still, Forde is a SOCIAL KNIGHT, and that's gotta be worth something. 6/10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narga_Rocks Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Eh....If 5/10 means middle of the line in terms of FE8 units, I can see Forde being quite close with his...lameness. Man, if he can't contribute much during drafts where I have a limited team and am expected to make full of use of him, how much can he really contribute in a playthrough with Seth or even a playthrough with Franz? I've always found Kyle to be more useful, although I'm sure if you looked at averages and stuff, they'd be pretty close together. Still, Forde is a SOCIAL KNIGHT, and that's gotta be worth something. 6/10. Isn't this the wrong thread for rating Forde? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Laufeyson Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 What the fuck? Are we playing the same CC here? What about GK's monstrous 29 DEF is garbage? 24 SPD is certainly on the lower end, but how much SPD do you need again? The ONLY place in CC that would give Kyle any beef is the later levels in the Ruins because Kyle's res is poopy. Everywhere else, bro is gold so like, yeah i agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 The ONLY place in CC that would give Kyle any beef is the later levels in the Ruins because Kyle's res is poopy. Everywhere else, bro is gold so like, yeah i agree with you. Sure, but even then GB was referencing Kyle's caps and GK's RES cap is still a deathblasting 25 - higher than most non-caster classes. So ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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