Integrity Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Dat Rules - Ratings are assumed to be on Difficult Mode. - Votes need some explanation regarding their gameplay performance to be counted (unless they fall into the general parameters of the average rating, but reasoning is still strongly encouraged on those even if you just wanna quote people) — incredibly low scores or high scores without proper justification will not be counted. Don't put in some random text thinking it'd count as justification. Put in at least a little thought and give REAL reasoning. - Numbers for votes, please - not something like "Marcus/10", etc. Proper justification will be determined by me and whoever decides to help, whether it be Integrity and Integrity again or sometegrity else. +/- ≤1 point extra regarding personality/appearance is okay, but no more. - Votes out of 10, or something proportional to it. Makes it easy to calculate, please and thank you~! - Every ranking phase ends whenever I get out of bed, between 0700 and 0800 EST. Do the math for your timezone, Brits. - I will insist you do not use the "Not X" reason on any character, where X is another unit. If you do, your vote will be thrown out. - Ratings for characters should always assume the gameplay route YOU judge them best on. If I see "doesn't exist on ephraim" ANYWHERE in your rating for Innes I will be very cross and will probably throw out your vote out of spite. Average Ratings Amelia: 1.65 Ewan: 1.74 Marisa: 2.05 Neimi: 2.24 Gilliam: 3.27 Rennac: 4.09 Dozla: 4.28 L'Arachel: 4.31 Ross: 4.33 Lute: 4.80 Joshua: 6.02 Innes: 6.20 Natasha: 6.27 Colm: 6.32 Garcia: 6.88 Kyle: 6.89 Moulder: 6.89 Artur: 6.92 Forde: 7.04 Tana: 7.33 Eirika: 7.34 Saleh: 8.04 Ephraim: 8.13 Vanessa: 8.16 Cormag: 8.22 Gerik: 8.29 Tethys: 8.30 Franz: 9.32 Seth: 9.91 rennac scored a lot higher than i thought he would also to some of you, make your scores more distinct. an unbolded 4/10 in the middle/end of a long paragraph is sorta hard to spot when i'm skimming for scores i think i got everything though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 7/10 Needs more playtime But is rapeface when availible. Brick wall, triple A ranks, Anima, and supports good-great units! Now if he has 8 move or flew....... Mustache power! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) A/A/A rank 17 base defense This is awesome where can I get more oh well and 6 move but he's awesome enough and tank enough to not care that much And the next chapter he joins in is Phantom Ship and high-def units are esp. welcome He's like a Seth that joins later with less move but axes so basically a free awesome tank combat unit 8.5/10 full bias because he's manly Edited February 29, 2012 by Luminescent Blade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) A-rank in the Physical Weapon Trinity which allows combat flexibility a.k.a WTC and being able to chuck both Javelins and Hand Axes; tanky/durable, and has Anima affinity! Now, just imagine if he had 8 MOV; and I'd really enjoy his company. He kinda needs a bit more speed too. 7.5, but because of pony biases... I shall kick him up to... 8.5! Edited February 29, 2012 by Frostbite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWalker Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Duessel is badass. Triple A, great defense, good enough attack, manly. 8.5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewjeo Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 6 MOV (at least until the boots show up) and I wouldn't mind better availability, but then, you know, 17 DEF and all A ranks... 7.5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Duracell is pretty amazing. Triple A ranks. Wtf str and def bases. Pony. 6 move hurts though and unwinged duracell will stop doubling soon. I give him 7/10 but bias (bcuz beard) increases the score to an 8/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) AAA auto insurance is on his side. Durable as fuck, but has the fewest gainable levels to gain. I don't always use 3 A ranked weapons, but when I do, they're super effective. 6.25. Dat manly man beard earns him a bonus +.5. So 6.75/10 8.75, because of smash. Edited March 1, 2012 by Elieson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onmi Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I say 8/10. He's solid if you need him, Triple As, nice defense, and he gets you a Knight Crest by saving his soldiers. Only problem is 6 move and being useless in the desert. So pretty much Eirika Route troubles, and becoming another candidate for the coveted Swiftsoles. Oh and he can recruit Cormag if you're dead set against using Tana for some reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 being useless in the desert. FE8's desert's pretty nice to mounts, IMO. The entire bottom half is very mount-friendly and Duessel starts there regardless of route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 well he's pretty good at killing enemies all day long 8.5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 FE8's desert's pretty nice to mounts, IMO. The entire bottom half is very mount-friendly and Duessel starts there regardless of route. I'd agree FE8's desert isn't as harsh on mounts as other FE games' deserts are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renall Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Duessel is the very definition of an idiot-proof prepromote. Top-shelf weapon ranks, bitchin' starting durability, okay movement (GK may not be great on that front, but 6 Move isn't exactly sluggish), doesn't need your promotion items, doesn't need your favoritism (although a Speedwings wouldn't necessarily hurt). A great option for taking one of the sacred weapons, and thanks to his ranks he can choose which one... but you're going to choose Garm of course, for +5 SPD and the fact that it doesn't even begin to slow down Duessel thanks to his 15 CON. That's right, he makes unpromoted Garcia feel inadequate as a man. Plus his beard is better too. Definitely an 8/10 kind of guy. If he were around longer, he could only go higher, stopping somewhere under Seth. He's not though, which is unfortunate, but what can you do? Oh yeah, that's right: Chill and kill everything with Hand Axes while tanking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeCrush980 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 AAA 17 defense 6.5/10, -1 due to bias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onmi Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 FE8's desert's pretty nice to mounts, IMO. The entire bottom half is very mount-friendly and Duessel starts there regardless of route. Compared to other deserts? yes? but even then the best Duessel is for is being sent to take out Valter which is great for Ephraim Route but poor for Eirika Route. then again on the Latter he just Auto-Deploys like a boss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serene Flight Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I have found him good in both routes in chapter 15. In Ephraim's Route he's not really necessary or anything but in Eirika's Route, he's nice addition. 8/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) Compared to other deserts? yes? but even then the best Duessel is for is being sent to take out Valter which is great for Ephraim Route but poor for Eirika Route. then again on the Latter he just Auto-Deploys like a boss. It's still like, half the goddamn map that matters. And there are two areas where mounts only require a much smaller amount of turns to traverse in the desert than your average desert since the actual sand area between top and bottom is quite small. Not to mention you're only supposed to count his better route, which is obviously Ephraim's. Edited February 29, 2012 by Luminescent Blade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excellen Browning Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) One of this game's OP prepromotes. Unfortunately for him I can take the fact he isn't there for half the game into account, his move and movement type are average and suck respectively and he's weak to slayers and magic. 7/10 Edited March 1, 2012 by Daigoji Excellen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) 6.5/10 -1 for bias (against his class, not against Duessel himself). While he's good, he's not around for half the game, his movement type sucks (he's essentially a foot unit that takes worse movement penalties), and his class leaves him weak to *both* anti-armor and anti-horse weapons. Edited February 29, 2012 by Metal King Slime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Because theres a lot of antiarmor and antihorse-weapon-using-enemies, amirite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) Because theres a lot of antiarmor and antihorse-weapon-using-enemies, amirite? Even if there aren't, I still consider it annoying. Especially when your dodging ability isn't that great and effective weapons are triple Mt on the appropriate targets (though said weapons either tend to have low Mt or are inaccurate). And for what it's worth, he's also pretty hard to rescue. Edited February 29, 2012 by Metal King Slime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arvilino Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 His base durability is similar to most of the physical casts endgame durability, Triple A's in Sword/Lance/Axe gives him great flexibility when it comes to picking which S-rank weapon he gets. While he's only got 6 mov, unlike foot units he's got the movement advantage of re-move for rescue chains. There's his weakness too effective weapons, but honestly from most of the enemies wielding them he takes slightly more damage than a unit that it isn't effective against takes and can have any WTA over any of them. 8/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewjeo Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Even if there aren't, I still consider it annoying. Especially when your dodging ability isn't that great and effective weapons are triple Mt on the appropriate targets (though said weapons either tend to have low Mt or are inaccurate). And for what it's worth, he's also pretty hard to rescue. Taking into account WTA and Duessel's DEF/AVO, I'll give you a table for how much damage the effective weapons do before enemy stats. Armorslayer: 4, 33 HIT Zanbato: -2, 38 HIT Horseslayer: 1, 23 HIT Heavy Spear: 7, 23 HIT Hammer: 10, 8 HIT Those numbers don't scare me too much, especially when I'm maybe seeing numbers like that about three more times the whole game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Taking into account WTA and Duessel's DEF/AVO, I'll give you a table for how much damage the effective weapons do before enemy stats. Armorslayer: 4, 33 HIT Zanbato: -2, 38 HIT Horseslayer: 1, 23 HIT Heavy Spear: 7, 23 HIT Hammer: 10, 8 HIT Those numbers don't scare me too much, especially when I'm maybe seeing numbers like that about three more times the whole game. Well, to be fair, I DID admit they were either weak or inaccurate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.M. Gei Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 8/10 Rape machine with just a Wings on Ephraim Route Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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