General Banzai Posted March 7, 2012 Author Share Posted March 7, 2012 Yeah I didn't make any qualifications for arena abuse because of the difficulty of H5 arenas (unless I'm mistaken and they're the same as every other difficulty? But that doesn't seem likely). As for suspending restart penalties for the first three chapters of H5, I'll leave that up to a vote of the five contenders. Othin: The penalty for using an undrafted unit illegally counts even if forced to restart. Otherwise if someone messed up and an undrafted unit was attacked, the person could just restart and only take 1/4 of the penalty. And yes, if an undrafted unit is attacked even if they don't counter, that counts as "using" them. I have suspended the penalty for places where I feel it is impossible to proceed without potentially-undrafted units being attacked (namely, the Ch 12 prison units and Ch 13 Midia. I did not count Ch 13 Astram because it is quite possible to recruit him and get him out of range without him being attacked). In other news we have our five contenders. I was going to play if there was trouble getting five people but it seems as though there was no problem and so I will not be participating. The goal after all is to get people to try a new way of playing. The teams, as well as the picking order (as determined by RNG), are: 1. PKL 2. General Horace 3. Hawk King 4. Elieson 5. CR-S01 Picking will begin with PKL and go in the standard "1 2 3 4 5 5 4 3 2 1" order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 (edited) Barst performs better for me than the altean cavs in H5 so barst it is. Edited March 7, 2012 by PKL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Abel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk King Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I will take Cain. And i am in favor of the first 3 chapters being free to restart cause they can be pretty damn brutal/cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Banzai Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 I will take Cain. And i am in favor of the first 3 chapters being free to restart cause they can be pretty damn brutal/cheap. Okay, that's one vote in favor. Let's see what the other drafters think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I vote for free resetting until chapter 4 too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk King Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I wont be available for the next 9 hrs so if my turn comes up before then dont bother waiting for me to pick. And im not comfortable leaving my pics with someone else cause I have no idea about who will be taken before my next pic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Banzai Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 I wont be available for the next 9 hrs so if my turn comes up before then dont bother waiting for me to pick. And im not comfortable leaving my pics with someone else cause I have no idea about who will be taken before my next pic. Then what? I pick for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I think his intention was to not make us wait around for him, if we were to have to go do something, but were afraid of holding stuff up. Could be wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) Oh shit, its my turn. Gimme wing spear. And freebies up to threezies pleaseiesez? Edited March 8, 2012 by Elieson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) Err, wing spear is free. Also, i assume forges are fine right? because i dont see any rule adressing that in the OP. Edited March 8, 2012 by PKL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Forges are fine. It is H5 after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Silly me, did I say wing spear? I meant Hardinge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciarre Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) I pick Ogma and Gordin. A rank bows and promotion ready Gordin by the end of chapter 1, hell yeah. I also vote for free resets in chapter 1-3. Edited March 8, 2012 by CR-S01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Wait what? How is he ready for promotion by chapter1 and A rank bows o_O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciarre Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Boss abuse. Sure, I'm sure it's not the "right" thing to do, but I suck at H5 and it'll help Gordin out :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 -_-. There should be a turn limit lol. Im so javelin spamming caeda to promotion in ch1... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciarre Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 It only takes like 200 turns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Wimps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Dang, I knew ogma would go next. I always get Navarre, and all he does for me is fail. Sedgaro. Lets see what you and your prepromoted badass General self can do for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk King Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 This is a hard decision, I hate being in the middle. I will take... WOLF!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Banzai Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 I didn't make a rule about boss abuse because I seriously thought that nobody would actually do it. Was this a mistake? Since this is the first time I (or anyone really) have attempted a draft like this, it's bound to have flaws to be ironed out--and that's what you guys are for! I would feel bad saying "lol no boss abuse now" right after the guy picked Gordin of all people but at the same time... So what should I do now? Allow people to capitalize off of my oversight? Change the rules right now? Put it to a vote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spanish Inquisition Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Speaking objectively, it shouldn't be a problem, since Gordin doesn't exactly become a killing machine this way . That said, you don't appear to have banned arena abuse, which is understandable, since its much less safe in H5 (if I remember correctly), but still abusable? TBH, I think you should let it be, unless you really want to keep people from boss abusing (in which case allow CR to re-pick now, if he chooses, from currently available units [his fault for not bringing it up before he picked?]). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 People shouldn't abuse stuff. Seems to me that if he wants to be an idiot and waste his time on it, making his run that much more boring, that's his right. And if he gets the lowest score and tries to claim that he won, it's everyone else's right to laugh at him and say "hell no". If anyone cares what I think, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) No, people should have a plain and simple right to abuse all they want to, because this scoring system doesn't punish having high turncounts. If Banzai disagrees, then that means that he's submitting to the much-reviled LTC ubermensch. Edited March 8, 2012 by dondon151 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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