Helios Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 How the hell can I know he's town? I feel like he's played way more town than you and a lot of other players in the game. That's all. Quit trying to twist my words. Look at the third post that was posted TWO SECONDS after that second post. There is literally no contradiction here. I just think it's a pointless role. I also think town!Roleblocker is a shitty town role (and I'm speaking from experience) because it's a lot harder to use as town until late game. Fuck it though how many votes does Mancer have on him? Not sure if he's gonna get hammered if I theoretically switch my vote to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Mancer if you knew it was a bluff why claim? Inb4 rolespec on his claim makes Mancer ITP something like Bizz in MoMM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I am whoalate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 ##Unvote: Don't want a hammer. Helios answer my question. Do you think Mancer is town or scum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I'll self hammer after Boron makes his post. Remember, go after Prims after my flip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Like you just said you think he's played more town than most players in the game, yet you said you would prefer a lynch on me over him. WHICH IMPLIES THAT YOU WOULD LYNCH HIM SECOND IF PEOPLE DIDNT WANT TO LYNCH ME. Why would you want to lynch someone who is supposedly more town than most people in the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helios Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 How the hell can I know he's town? I feel like he's played way more town than you and a lot of other players in the game. That's all. Quit trying to twist my words. Look at the third post that was posted TWO SECONDS after that second post. There is literally no contradiction here. I just think it's a pointless role. I also think town!Roleblocker is a shitty town role (and I'm speaking from experience) because it's a lot harder to use as town until late game. Fuck it though how many votes does Mancer have on him? Not sure if he's gonna get hammered if I theoretically switch my vote to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 didn't eclipse say that this phase won't end early for any reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NekoRex Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 How did I dig a hole for suspecting Manix? P sure my only comment on Manix herself was I didn't like him and his vote on me was bad. Unless you mean Lucina in which case that's already been explained by no less then two people. ##Unmeow ##Intent To Lynch: Mancer Didn't the mod say that the day won't end early on hammer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 So if you think he's town why did you say it sounds like a bad fake claim and why would you be fine with lynching him after me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NekoRex Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Oh wait Paper just confirmed it that before I could ask it. ##Meow: Mancer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helios Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Like you just said you think he's played more town than most players in the game, yet you said you would prefer a lynch on me over him. WHICH IMPLIES THAT YOU WOULD LYNCH HIM SECOND IF PEOPLE DIDNT WANT TO LYNCH ME. Why would you want to lynch someone who is supposedly more town than most people in the game? Look at the situation of the game right now. We have barely any time left in the game to swing a lynch to someone other than you or Mancer so I really really don't have a choice but to vote one of you. Don't act dumb on me man you're better than this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 @Helios, how could you forget Town!Roleblocker BBM screwing us over in Naruto? Town Roleblockers exist, that was even one of clipsey's other games. Rocker wagon isn't going anywhere (didn't realize that there was barely any time left, derp), and Mancer's fake was horribad. ##Unvote ##Vote: Mancer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Look at the situation of the game right now. We have barely any time left in the game to swing a lynch to someone other than you or Mancer so I really really don't have a choice but to vote one of you. Don't act dumb on me man you're better than this. We still have 6 hours. If you think he is town then you could easily press for a target you actually find scummy or if worst case scenario you could press for a no lynch, but that's a bad idea so we know that probably wouldn't happen. Like you said you were fine with lynching him. if you think he's town why not say you would prefer not to lynch him? Just cause phase ends today doesn't mean you have to say that you are okay with lynching someone you have a town read on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 6 hours left and we don't require a hammer for day 1 lynch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 NNR I refer to the debate between you two where Manix just made himself look weird. Also Mancer self-hammer. Proves not town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Mancer's claim; I'm not honestly not sure what to think of this. Did he genuinely think he was in mortal peril? Or is he claiming tactically? I can't see what the point of that would be, but it's less obviously useless than "I'm gauging reactions, what would you do if I voted for you?". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 *mancer willing to self hammer proves not town* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 ehh it depends I don't think this is one of those exceptions though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 *mancer willing to self hammer proves not town* We've seen self hammers as town before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Okay, you know what? You guys are terrible and I am utterly frustrated. If you guys thought that Mancer/my slot was scummy because of our actions, I can't help that. But what you guys are doing now is VOTING FOR US OVER OUR CLAIM. Are you eclipse? Do you know why she would put certain roles in this game or whatnot? Do you have any idea why she would put a PR cop in the game at all? In other words, STOP VOTING US BECAUSE OF OUR CLAIM. How does a PR cop help scum anyway? It is virtually useless, and I am seriously wondering if we're not just functional vanilla or something, which is why Mancer and I speculated that PRs might not be more than just a "fun little thing". DO YOU REALLY THINK WE'D BE STUPID ENOUGH TO CLAIM SOMETHING LIKE PR COP AS A FAKE CLAIM? CONGRATS, YOU JUST INSULTED BOTH OF OUR INTELLIGENCES. I suspect Prims right now because of how aggressive he's being. Dude, get off your high horse. You're not some infallible scum hunter and you can tell who scum is immediately. Mancer and I are 100% town and when we flip you're going to look like an idiot for being so certain. SB and Baldrick, you guys contribute little and jump onto the wagon. Opportunistic much? Manix, you're pushing a shitty case and I'm starting to think that you're destined to sub in on D1 for one of my drafting acquaintances who decides that they hate mafia and then tunnel the hell on my slot when I'm town. Roleblocker doesn't confirm alliance even if it confirms role, so why the hell are you all jumping on us so hard? ALSO, I'D RATHER MODKILL THE BOTH OF US RIGHT NOW BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE FUCKING HORRIBLE THAN COOPERATE AND DIE BY LYNCH. WE BOTH DIE EITHER WAY. IF I CAN CONVINCE MANCER TO LET ME MODKILL US BOTH THEN BELIEVE ME I WILL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helios Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 We still have 6 hours. If you think he is town then you could easily press for a target you actually find scummy or if worst case scenario you could press for a no lynch, but that's a bad idea so we know that probably wouldn't happen. Like you said you were fine with lynching him. if you think he's town why not say you would prefer not to lynch him? Just cause phase ends today doesn't mean you have to say that you are okay with lynching someone you have a town read on. Didn't know til now that hammer won't cause an autolynch (that's just D1 though right)? Yeah I forgot that rule until Paper and Neko said it so don't kill me. Because of this I figured the phase was gonna end so I may as well vote even if I'm not a fan of it. 6 hours isn't really enough time to push a lynch on SB, Marth, or Kay for that matter, who are all higher on my priority list than Mancer. I was disappointed that I'm seemingly the only one that remembers Mancer's town play from earlier in the game and is putting that into the equation Put that info into my perspective and you'll see what my thought process was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 ##Unvote ##Vote: MancerNecro/Boron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 the main issue I have is that his back-and-forth with Manix was really bad and his claim seems completely pointless to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Boron I'm voting your slot for the way the claim occurred, not the claim itself. I can't vouche for everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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