Espinosa Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 Actually, white dragons are shitty in RD White Tides gives +5 spd, the best of the tide boosters (for an imagined arena context). So a unit that can run 4 skills, including Nihil, ridic bulk, ridic speed etc is somehow ok but 5 turns of sleep is not ok? Laguz gauge issues, competition for boosters, mediocre hit rates against supported units, Laguzguards existing, not having a Laguz Band for a decent endgame (Demi'd Nasir has 36 atk w/o boosters, which is equal to Dandragon's Elincia equipped with a Silver Sword... yeah). Nasir hardly warrants a spot in one's team more than any of the royals. Tough to use and eventually just doesn't do anything in the match (and early on, you may hesitate to attack with Nasir which has been the case in nearly all matches starring him). Fun to customise into all kinds of builds, has a few niches. He's only doing well here because of skills procs and his opponents being chumps like untransformed Lethe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vennobennu Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 (edited) Nasir is banned from having Resolve or Wrath, and he can only have up to four statboosters. Oh right, I forgot that. Nevermind haha. Writing labs while debating FE is clearly a mistake! Edited February 19, 2014 by Vennobennu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 every time I see Elincia, Eli stands out, and my eyes bolt to it to see if it's possibly Elieson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 (edited) [spoiler=nullified] [spoiler=see teams here] Refa's team vs. Vennobennu's team! Turn 19. vs Venno's Makalov recovers 5/58 HP with Renewal! Venno's Makalov (Silver Lance) attacks Refa's Ike (Vague Katti)! 20 dmg 99% hit 0% crit (35 63 55) Ike receives 19/52 damage! Ike is KO'd! Refa Vennobennu Ike 0/52 Lethe 0/64 Mist 0/53 Ike 0/52 Rolf 0/52 Ranulf 20/68 (12) Nasir 39/60 [20] Makalov 19/58 Tibarn 0/66 Tibarn 36/66 [20] Refa acts next. Edited February 19, 2014 by Espinosa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 White Tides gives +5 spd, the best of the tide boosters (for an imagined arena context).Reason why they should also be banned, the significant stat boost is just so OP that you'll wreck your enemy with them. A BloodTide!Trueblade will destroy anything with Brave Swd or Alondite/Vague Katti, while a WhiteTide!Sage or Reaver will do the same. On the other hand, NightTide!Units can get bulky and play a semi Nostank role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 And now comes the true test of Nasir. 1v3 who wins? Stay tuned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Naut Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 How does the Vague Katti do 20 damage with no listed crit :v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 It was Silver Lance forge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 I'm burnt out; going to bed. We'll see what happens with Nasir tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Gimme your teams and I'll continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vennobennu Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Eh, why not. Your thoughts, Refa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 It's not an unusual practice to co-host. Sent (what remains of) the teams to PKL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 oh lol Makalov actually doesn't have the Vague Katti! I'll re-send the full teams to PKL in a sec and you guys negotiate which turn you want to re-do the battle from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Why the redo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 Why the redo? Makalov didn't have the VK (Ike had it), so he couldn't have possibly critted Refa's Ike with the VK. The battle might be re-done from the turn where Venno decided to attack Nasir with the VK and I neglected to confirm that he does indeed have the weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Oh, holy crap. The VK was first used by Mak waaaay back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vennobennu Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Makalov doesn't have the Vague Katti, he should have the Wishblade instead. I gave it to Ike at the last minute and promptly forgot about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 In that case, wait for Espi tomorrow. I only have 45 minutes left and I thought it was just a few rounds left. :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 YES I AGREE WITH A REDO (wait, how far back would it go? Man...I hope it doesn't go too far back, but honestly I'd like to have a BETTER CHANCE, sooooooo...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 This is the last turn before Venno decided to attack with a weapon he does not have. He can come up with any other query to replace the one he made for turn 17. What this means is that we only have to re-do the last 3 turns - not a big deal. Still, good news for Refa (who ordered Ike to gamble on a crit on Makalov out of boredom I think). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vennobennu Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Alright then, let's have Makalov equip the Laguzguard and poke a few holes in Nasir with his Silver Lance. Hopefully I can avoid a Guard Proc this time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 (edited) [spoiler=see teams here] Refa's team vs. Vennobennu's team! Turn 17. vs Venno's Makalov recovers 5/58 HP with Renewal! Venno's Makalov equips a Laguzguard! Venno's Makalov (Silver Lance) attacks Refa's Nasir (Breath)! Refa's Nasir activates Nihil! Nasir activates Vantage! 5 dmg 79% hit 0% crit 28% Guard (15 39 78 33) Makalov receives 5/58 damage! Makalov counterattacks! 17 dmg 96% hit 0% crit (8 84 57) Nasir attacks again! (26 39 98 46) Makalov receives 5/58 damage! Refa Vennobennu Ike 52/52 Lethe 0/64 Mist 0/53 Ike 0/52 Rolf 0/52 Ranulf 20/68 (8) Nasir 22/60 [20] Makalov 44/58 Tibarn 0/66 Tibarn 36/66 [20] Refa acts next. Edited February 19, 2014 by Espinosa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Damn vk mak still has 0 crit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 espi He attacked with a Silver lance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Ike, go poke Tibarn. With your VAGUE KATTI NOTHING CAN GO WRONG YOU GOT THIS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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