charlie_ Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Do we need to hammer fire before Xinny can vig? I forget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I was also trying to draw a nightkill to myself by making it seem like my role is overpowered. I did not want Shin nightkilled and once eclipse counterclaimed Bluedoom, I decided to get in that one post to draw the nightkill to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 We don't but we get a 24 hour day phase extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 There's probably one scum in Shin/Poly/Mancer then, since that's too much protection. I'd go Poly>Shin>Mancer prioritywise but I dunno. Don't hammer in elements yet. BBM, can you take the place of one of the drivers? Why are you trying to lynch both of the neighbour pairs? Why not consider BBM lying as well? You said Marth basically cleared me by disabling me so why am I even on your "to be lynched" list again? You're contradicting yourself, SB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I'm inclined to believe a scum water Roleblocker exists due to Marth's JoaT claim involving it. He has to be able to prove a roleblock claim if town decided to hammer in water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 If the vig target flips scum, I don't think that we should pick it again and that we should just double up on investigative roles. I'm leaning towards Poly but I'd need to reread his Marth interactions when it isn't 3am whoa when did that happen. Mancer: I said that there's one scum in there and I'm obviously not going to lynch through the entire list after one of them flips scum because I'm not an idiot? You're at the bottom of that priority, so I'm not contradicting myself. You just can't context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Forecaster was a renamed Joat in other Prims games, so Marth probably did have most of his claimed abilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinnidy Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Do water roles even exist? I could take a guess. Do we need to hammer fire before Xinny can vig? I forget. No. BBM what would happen if a JoaT died? Hmm Mancer raises a good point about water element. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 ~~~mod post~~~ Forecaster is just the name I use for roles that do nonspecific things dependent on phase-related variables (read: it means fucking nothing) ~~~mod post~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 if they had like one ability per element, I could use one of those abilities, but that's it, since I can only target someone once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I suggest vigging BBM and lynching Poly since those two are everyone's scum reads by PoE. Personally, I think eclipse, Shin and Xinnidy are confirmed town and we don't have to put them under fire anymore. Me being disabled doesn't make me immediately town since there should be the possibility that Marth idled and I lied about being disabled to gain town credit. I don't like Bellysaurus's inactivity and if we run out of players to vig or lynch day 4, we should just go for a Bellysaurus vig/lynch. If scum contains a public tracker then I'm inclined to believe that SB could be town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 you're more confirmed town than Shin is because of your attempts to lynch Marth at deadline D1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 That may be true but I just want to point out that it is still possible to suspect me of being scum since there's no concrete proof (through investigative results or public roles that I am town). I'm saying this because of Bluedoom's buddying towards me on day 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 Fighter has been hammered as of this post but I'm bad. Will count votes for classes made afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 ##Select: Archer Would like to point out that Drivers are not really protective roles since someone is still going to die even if the mafia targets a Driven player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 (edited) Day 3.1 Votals BBM (3) - SB., Shin, MancerNecro Belisarius (1) - eclipse Shin (1) - Refa Not Voting (4) - BBM, Belisarius, Burakkuhoku, Xinnidy Class Selection Archer (1) - MancerNecro Cleric (1) - SB. Indecisive (7): Everybody else You have 73 hours and 42 minutes left in the phase. With 9 alive, it takes 5 to hammer. Edited September 20, 2014 by Prims Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Imo at least two of SB, BBM and Poly are scum and I'm leaning towards the former two right now. If Poly is scum then SB most likely isn't. I don't like BBM's claim since it provides way more defensive ability and utility than a normal JoaT (using eclipse as an example here) can. Especially since it can take on mafia abilities as well. Too gameslingy for town, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 uhhhhhh why are you voting for Archer if you want me to be lynched or vigged??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Because I don't know whether you will really be lynched or vigged but I want you to immediately cop someone if you survive the day phase. Also SB: Since I just gave this some thought: If either one of the co-drivers is scum, then the drive is no longer a protective role but a way for scum to mess with town's roles. If I drove someone and the scum driver knew it, the scum can just night kill and drive the same target to kill the player I drove with my co-drive. So, if you're assuming that one co-driver is scum, please don't list the drive as a potential protective role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Xinnidy: Just shoot someone. This is going nowhere..... Well just be going back and forth about this until someone flips so let's not waste time on this pointless stage of discussion anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Xinny, PLEASE don't shoot until I have time to make an actual post (at the moment, I'd be OK with either Shin or Poly but I haven't had time to analyze any of the recent posts. A thought comes when it will, not when I will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinnidy Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Yeah we should at least get one scum today imho (if not both!). And I'm assuming it's probable that the public tracker is yet another scum role but not marth's (and very likely fire), so maybe that can be used as food for thought. Xinnidy: Just shoot someone. This is going nowhere..... Well just be going back and forth about this until someone flips so let's not waste time on this pointless stage of discussion anymore. Sorry about the brief disappearance I took a break for dinner. Eh I think this discussion might be worth rereading later depending on flips so I think it was helpful. I agree it's probably time to move on though since we have my shot and yet another shot for tomorrow. PEDIT: ohai refa I'll wait but if you don't say anything in one hour I will shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Refa: My point is that the discussion has stagnated so it's time to move on but we can wait for your post. We don't want to waste discussion time on a stagnated discussion where this happens: Player A: XXX Player B: YYY Player C: ZZZ Player B: YYY Player C: ZZZ Player A: XXX Player B: YYY Player A: XXX : : : Player C: ZZZ Player B: YYY Player A: XXX The discussion will go absolutely nowhere with each player still maintaining their own ppints and not budging. This happened towards the end of day 1 as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I'm doing homework right now but please don't vig me ;_; at the least I'm putting in a lot more effort than POLY although really I'd rather Shin be vigged over him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Shin should not be vigged. I already fucking explained why I think Shin is town. His role itself is inherently townie. If he's scum why the fuck would he Omniguard town? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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