Ema Skye Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 Now I'm left thinking whether he's been taking advantage of the lenient rules This is the issue. I don't allow Gerudo Valley in my tournaments because it allows for circle camping. Hosts can control stalling strategies by limiting the stages that people can play on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) I do what works. The stalling rule is there for stuff that is literally infinite, like, say, infinite dimensional cape of metaknight in brawl, peach bomber and jigglypuff rising pound in melee. Stuff that literally makes you invincible. What I did was not stalling, it was camping. Anyway, If I were using a character without projectiles like Marth (or in the case of the original 12, Jigglypuff), it would've gone the same.EDIT: If you honestly think I beat any of you guys just because I'm camping then you haven't faced my Marth or any of my other melee characters.EDIT 2: Febro camps way more than me ;/ Edited October 31, 2014 by PJSalt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM ME MARIANNE ART Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Okay, I'm really sorry Shulk, but I'm gonna have to drop out of the teams tournament. I have so much to do this weekend that I am not going to be able to do any really specific times and may not even have time to play. Again, really sorry to my partner and everyone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Kamina Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) Okay, I'm really sorry Shulk, but I'm gonna have to drop out of the teams tournament. I have so much to do this weekend that I am not going to be able to do any really specific times and may not even have time to play. Again, really sorry to my partner and everyone else I understand, sorry to hear about this. I do what works. The stalling rule is there for stuff that is literally infinite, like, say, infinite dimensional cape of metaknight in brawl, peach bomber and jigglypuff rising pound in melee. Stuff that literally makes you invincible. What I did was not stalling, it was camping. Anyway, If I were using a character without projectiles like Marth (or in the case of the original 12, Jigglypuff), it would've gone the same. EDIT: If you honestly think I beat any of you guys just because I'm camping then you haven't faced my Marth or any of my other melee characters. EDIT 2: Febro camps way more than me ;/ People tend to make up excuses for not being able to get past something. You can camp well, but it's pretty obvious it's not the only thing you're good at. (If it were he wouldn't be winning so often) Edited October 31, 2014 by Monado Boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKLucas531 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I'll sub in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Wait, when did sign-ups for a teams tourney start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) PKL/PJSalt/Sheikant has dropped out of the draft tournament, which has left things in a little state. His first two drafted picks were Sheik and Diddy Kong. We need to decide on a way to replace him, which involves fairly distributing the substitute player a means of drafting two characters for him/herself. Sigh Edited October 31, 2014 by Raven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I suggest we ban his picks entirely, or sub somebody in for him And Ana like a week ago. I def. Made a post about it in thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momentai~ Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) signed up, since i really like doubles in this game. ~ If you guys are practicing teams, I'll join in too~ (oops I'm sorry, completely missed this offer) Hey you two, I know the tourney doesn't start until tomorrow but would you both be interested in getting those matches in tonight? If my partner is available of course. 'tonight' Meaning around 11 pm edt I forgot you all could be on the other side of the world or sumfin Edited October 31, 2014 by Terriermon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) SO WHO WILL FILL THAT FINAL SPOT? Oh yeah Elie, update the document: Flood - FalcoHorace - Donkey KongVOID - Mega Man Edited October 31, 2014 by Raven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Updated, doh. PKLucas subs in for NecromancrDuck, as Shulk's teammate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jave Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I just find out about Sheikant/PKL dropping out of the Draft tournament. No reasons were given, apparently. Anyone here with a Challonge account who is willing to take his spot and his drafted characters (Sheik and Diddy Kong, plus a third character left to draft)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 If we don't find a replacement, we can simply ban the characters he drafted and go on with 15, I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jave Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 If no sub happens before we reach PKL's turn in the draft, we'll continue drafting without him, and the sub we'll get Sheik, Diddy Kong, and whoever character is left undrafted. If by Wednesday we don't have a sub for PKL, we'll start the tournament without him and whoever gets matched against him will simply win by default. (The "Opponent didn't show up" rule). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Reason: I don't think anyone even wants me to enter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I'm a big fan of PKL (and if making a petition to allow PKL to maintain involvement in SFSmashClub is what it takes to prove it, I'll get one going!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotari Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Reason: I don't think anyone even wants me to enter. I want you to enter. There's been a lot of hype built up around you and I want to experience it myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 yea. I can think of 5 people who i talk to regularly, who strive to simply make it to matches just to have the honor to play against you. You're the Goku that many of us aspire to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 If people are so jealous about pkl winning every tournament then why don't you get better to ameliorate your chances of winning against him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemma Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Well... someone did accuse him of stalling, and lot lot of times people have said "oh why does it matter PKL is gonna win again." (even if it's a joke) etc. That's gotta dampen the fighting spirit, no? ~ (oops I'm sorry, completely missed this offer) Hey you two, I know the tourney doesn't start until tomorrow but would you both be interested in getting those matches in tonight? If my partner is available of course. 'tonight' Meaning around 11 pm edt I forgot you all could be on the other side of the world or sumfin Yeah, I'm totally down for that~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 And Ana like a week ago. I def. Made a post about it in thread. Seriously? How did I not see it? Looks like it's too late to sign up though. -_- God damn it. I was planning on signing up for it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Well... someone did accuse him of stalling, and lot lot of times people have said "oh why does it matter PKL is gonna win again." (even if it's a joke) etc. That's gotta dampen the fighting spirit, no? In the world of 'stalling', I take this as a sign that I need to improve my early game, because that momentum often carries through an entire match. If you can be beaten out by a stall, then it's motivation to change up your gameplay tactics a bit and adjust for the potential for that to happen. Also I disagree that stalling is a bad tactic (I think it's fair), but meh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Did you actually read pkl's post? I, myself, have smashed with him and know pkl's skill. Being the victor of tournament(s) because of strategies like camping? Try again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I do what works. The stalling rule is there for stuff that is literally infinite, like, say, infinite dimensional cape of metaknight in brawl, peach bomber and jigglypuff rising pound in melee. Stuff that literally makes you invincible. What I did was not stalling, it was camping. Anyway, If I were using a character without projectiles like Marth (or in the case of the original 12, Jigglypuff), it would've gone the same. EDIT: If you honestly think I beat any of you guys just because I'm camping then you haven't faced my Marth or any of my other melee characters. EDIT 2: Febro camps way more than me ;/ *As mentioned above, agrees with your thoughts on the Stall rule* **and like I said too, if you're skillful enough to even be put in a position where stalling/camping would net you the lead, then it's a sign of the match's likely outcome. It only reinforces your skill, which should push us to strive to exceed it I found Febro more aggressive, but then again I usually play his Mario, and mario isn't as heavy of a camper as others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euklyd Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 yea. I can think of 5 people who i talk to regularly, who strive to simply make it to matches just to have the honor to play against you. You're the Goku that many of us aspire to beI can corroborate this j/s that's not my reason to play but it's something for me to work for in a tournament Seriously? How did I not see it? Looks like it's too late to sign up though. -_- God damn it. I was planning on signing up for it too.they filled in literally a few hours, yeah it was kind of obscene also Elieson from my understanding of how camping works you're entirely wrong but I'm not an expert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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