Ryo Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) Defence Seal [Lancer Class] After attacking an enemy, the enemy’s Defence is reduced by 6. I hope this is a proc skill... Edited May 27, 2015 by Ryo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awakener_ Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) I wonder does debuff stacks, it look pretty powerful if you can stack them up one by one to the enemy. That lancer's skill take away 6 defense and I also think a hidden weapon's debuff is -3 defense, that 9 defense already bye bye for an enemy unit. I won't be surprised if we figure out a way to drop final boss's def/res down to 10 or something. This is totally the opposite way to Awakening where we're constantly buffing our units with temporary stats. Edited May 27, 2015 by Awakener_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceBuster573 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 With Cyrus joining Hoshido I have no regrets going with Hoshido. Except Hinata's ridiculous design. And no Harold. What's wrong with Hinata? The only thing I find weird about him is his Pegasus Knight armor as a myrmidon and maybe his hair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaplan Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I wonder does debuff stacks, it look pretty powerful if you can stack them up one by one to the enemy. That lancer's skill take away 6 defense and I also think a hidden weapon's debuff is -3 defense, that 9 defense already bye bye for an enemy unit. I won't be surprised if we figure out a way to drop final boss's def/res down to 10 or something. The final boss will probably have a skill where their stats can't be lowered I'm calling it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) I wonder does debuff stacks, it look pretty powerful if you can stack them up one by one to the enemy. That lancer's skill take away 6 defense and I also think a hidden weapon's debuff is -3 defense, that 9 defense already bye bye for an enemy unit. I won't be surprised if we figure out a way to drop final boss's def/res down to 10 or something. This is totally the opposite way to Awakening where we're constantly buffing our units with temporary stats. Usually mooks would just die after that many attacks anyway. What I'm worried about is that this skill would be used against us if we're siding with Nohr. Edited May 27, 2015 by Ryo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pureblood Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Cyrus and Sakazuke joining you whatever route you choose? Hell yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belmont Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 What's wrong with Hinata? The only thing I find weird about him is his Pegasus Knight armor as a myrmidon and maybe his hair. His hair is a sin against humanity, even by anime standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.Leu Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) Get ready to grind for skills again! Ffffffff... Suddenly, I'm less hyped for this game after seeing this. Mainly because I'm scared, and because I don't understand the logic behind the Parallel seal. Weapon Master eh ? I don't like you already, there is now way it's better than Swordmaster. :p Again, thanks for the info ! Edited May 27, 2015 by B.Leu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocturnal YL Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) Substitute [Lancer Class]On the map, the user can select an adjacent target to “substitute”. This probably allows the user to take damage instead of the chosen target and would be useful for protecting weak or wounded allies. I think the Substiture skill swaps physical (on-map) positions, not taking damage in one's stead, Sothe-style. Quote: こちらも槍術士の兵種スキル。隣接したユニットと待機位置を入れ替えられる。頻死の味方をかばえる便利なスキルだ。 Edited May 27, 2015 by nocturnal YL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belmont Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I think the Substiture skill swaps physical (on-map) positions, not taking damage in one's stead, Sothe-style. Just for reference, how useful was this skill in that game? I dont have access to the Tellus games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildshot Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I wonder does debuff stacks, it look pretty powerful if you can stack them up one by one to the enemy. That lancer's skill take away 6 defense and I also think a hidden weapon's debuff is -3 defense, that 9 defense already bye bye for an enemy unit. I won't be surprised if we figure out a way to drop final boss's def/res down to 10 or something. This is totally the opposite way to Awakening where we're constantly buffing our units with temporary stats. Bosses would become as easy as: 1) Have Oboro strike for the setup. 2) Have a Ninja sucker from range with a Hidden Weapon to further lower stats. 3) Have Kazahana bumrush the enemy for the kill with whatever that skill of hers is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bovinian Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Just for reference, how useful was this skill in that game? I dont have access to the Tellus games. It wasn't, because it barely activated. Certain enemy bosses abused it with much higher activation rates though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) I positively love this leak Elfie's and Harold's skills seem rather entertaining. I've dreamed about Elfie's in the past, which is coincidental to say the least. Harold looks like a Harold, and He's Nohr. Elfie's Nohr. Why would anybody want to go Hoshido with all of their androgyny when they could have the wonderment that is a gaggle of handsome and defined men and cute and gorgeous women in Nohr~ Edited May 27, 2015 by Elieson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awakener_ Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Ffffffff... Suddenly, I'm less hyped for this game after seeing this. Mainly because I'm scared, and because I don't understand the logic behind the Parallel seal. Weapon Master eh ? I don't like you already, there is now way it's better than Swordmaster. Again, thanks for the info ! Anti-grinding Seal, it doesn't reset the level when you choose to change class AKA that one kind of class changing seal that the elitist would like. And I fucking hope this better be Nohr only, second seal for Hoshido plz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I think the Substiture skill swaps physical (on-map) positions, not taking damage in one's stead, Sothe-style. Quote: こちらも槍術士の兵種スキル。隣接したユニットと待機位置を入れ替えられる。頻死の味方をかばえる便利なスキルだ。 Thanks, I've corrected it now. I should've known it was too good to be RD's Guard XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NekoKnight Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Defence Seal [Lancer Class]After attacking an enemy, the enemy’s Defence is reduced by 6. If there was any doubt before, Oboro is getting my Brave Lance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Any word on how Substitute activates? Please let it be a command skill and not randomly activating skill, it could allow for some interesting strategies that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bovinian Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I think the Substiture skill swaps physical (on-map) positions, not taking damage in one's stead, Sothe-style. Quote: こちらも槍術士の兵種スキル。隣接したユニットと待機位置を入れ替えられる。頻死の味方をかばえる便利なスキルだ。 Thanks, I've corrected it now. I should've known it was too good to be RD's Guard XD Omg. Pseudo-shove, anyone?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cysx Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) Bosses would become as easy as: 1) Have Oboro strike for the setup. 2) Have a Ninja sucker from range with a Hidden Weapon to further lower stats. 3) Have Kazahana bumrush the enemy for the kill with whatever that skill of hers is. Don't think that skill is tied to Kazahana though, because they'd have had to manually unequip it otherwise, and why would they have done that? It is true though that if bosses end up being vulnerable to debuffing effects, such combinations could easily break them apart. Edit: If there was any doubt before, Oboro is getting my Brave Lance. I'll be giving Oboro my Javelin personally. Any word on how Substitute activates? Please let it be a command skill and not randomly activating skill, it could allow for some interesting strategies that way. It's by command, you can see it in action on the lower part of the right page. Edited May 27, 2015 by Cysx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) If there was any doubt before, Oboro is getting my Brave Lance. I presume it works in the same manner as Galeforce, Lifetaker etc. so that probably wouldn't do anything. Any word on how Substitute activates? Please let it be a command skill and not randomly activating skill, it could allow for some interesting strategies that way. It's a command skill, you can see them using the command. Edited May 27, 2015 by Ryo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlizzardWolf95 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 The final boss will probably have a skill where their stats can't be lowered I'm calling it now. I'll do you one better and say that all bosses will have a skill that negates stat lowering, at least on hard mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I'll do you one better and say that all bosses will have a skill that negates stat lowering, at least on hard mode. Probably Nihil too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Silver Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 ...with Parallel Seals now, is it no longer possible to reset a units level? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoleo21 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 To counter stat debuffs I'm guess all non gate/castle bosses will move and will be really strong and have skills to negate them on harder difficulties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NekoKnight Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I'll be giving Oboro my Javelin personally. I presume it works in the same manner as Galeforce, Lifetaker etc. so that probably wouldn't do anything. My understanding of the skill is that it's a debuff that lasts for the rest of the round, ie it won't matter if you don't double, nor will it allow other allies to take advantage of the debuff. But I could be wrong. The Javelin would be a good choice if the debuff lasts past the round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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